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The "A Quiet Place: Day One" exists thread

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Friday, June 28, 2024 2:00 PM

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I'm guessing this one makes its money back, but only because the budget was $67 Million.

This thing failing to reach $167.5 Million when the first one hit $335 Million and the sequel pulled in $290 Million would be a huge fall for the franchise.

The premise looks like shit. The entire cast is new. They had to resort to photoshopping in a white guy on a last-minute edition of the movie poster because otherwise it just looked like a BLM protest in NYC.

It's got a 67% verified audience score after previews, which didn't save them much from the 66% All Audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. There is no cinemascore rating yet.


If word of mouth gets out how bad it is, this might actually fail... But again, with that low-for-2024 budget, a lot would have to go wrong for it to happen.

Right now it's got $6.8 Million in previews, which is even more than the $6.6 Million that Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes got, and even more than Bad Boys: Ride or Die got. This makes it the 5th highest preview night in the US in 2024.

I'm calling it right now that this movie will break the 2024 Preview Night / Worldwide Gross rule. There's no way this movie is making more money than Planet of the Apes or Bad Boys does.

Bruce doesn't have predictions out yet, but other outfits are claiming $50-$55 Million in the US this weekend. IF that's anywhere approaching a legit number, it could have $80 to $100 Million worldwide and be most of the way there.

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Friday, June 28, 2024 3:50 PM

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The premise looks like shit. The entire cast is new. They had to resort to photoshopping in a white guy on a last-minute edition of the movie poster because otherwise it just looked like a BLM protest in NYC.






Usually they only change the movie posters to hide the black people in China.

It's 2024 now, baby.




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Friday, June 28, 2024 8:01 PM

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Bruce is predicting $69 Million on opening weekend.

No flippin' way.


These people get one reasonably well performing Bad Boys movie and the first Disney movie that was profitable since Q1 of 2023 and all of the sudden they forget how awful 2023 has been otherwise.

It's summer. It's a PG-13 rated horror flick and the kids didn't have to go to school in the morning. I doubt very much that preview number means what you think it means in relation to other preview numbers so far this year.

You're also comparing this to two horror movies from last year, unarguably a MUCH better year for Hollywood, as well as the first two movies which had a cast of characters people cared about.

And if your preview comparison raises your prediction from $57 Million to $69 Million, that also means that your final US Box office number of $169 Million is raised to $226 Million.

Not. A. Chance.

I doubt it even sees $169 Million in the US.


Inside Out 2 has very little to worry about in its 3rd weekend, and it doesn't need to make $77 Million with only a -24% drop to take 1st place either.



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Saturday, June 29, 2024 11:48 AM

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Well... It did better than I thought it would on Friday. Have to come right out and admit that first.

Including the $6.8 Million it made on Thursday, the projections from the studio are now showing $22.5 Million on Friday. (That's an actual Friday number of $15.7 Million).

For comparison, Bad Boys: Ride or Die made $5.875 Million on Thursday which was part of the $21.5 Million opening Friday number. (An actual Friday number of 15.625 Million).

So even though it made more than I thought it would, it made WAY LESS than Bruce expected it to last night. And the preview to Friday ratio was quite a bit worse than Ride or Die's was, as I expected it would be. Also, Friday would be one of the two big days for the weekend for a movie like this. Horror movies make way for Children's fare on Sunday, typically. My guess is that it makes around $18-$20 Million today and $13-$15 Million on Sunday.

It will come nowhere close to Bruce's $69 Million, but it would appear that the other outfits claiming $50-$55 Million probably weren't that far off. Including the previews, it probably makes the high end of that prediction or even possibly a few million more.

RT audience scores are now 72% verified audience/71% all audience. Cinemascore gives it a B+.



I don't think this movie is actually going to have much competition in the future looking at the current release schedule. If it were a normal summer, it would probably be buried next weekend. But the only real new release next weekend is Despicable Me 4, and that's going to be IO2's problem, not Day One's problem.

The schedule will work very much in Day One's favor, and it probably ends up with a decent profit for Paramount. Paramount needs every penny it can manage right now.

On a $67 Million budget, it should have no problems bringing in well over 100% of the budget worldwide with a $50+ Million US opening, which in and of itself is a guarantee this movie does more than break even.


I still stand by my prediction that it doesn't out-gross Bad Boys or Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Currently, Bad Boys sits at just a hair below $300 Million, and Apes sits at $386 Million. Bad Boys is still making money as we speak, but I don't believe it needs any further buffer to beat Day One. I doubt very much that Day One will reach $300 Million globally before its run is over.

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Saturday, June 29, 2024 3:20 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Woke? Why did Emily go for this crap? Very disappointing, I had higher expectations for her.

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Saturday, June 29, 2024 9:33 PM

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Woke? Why did Emily go for this crap? Very disappointing, I had higher expectations for her.



No. Emily has nothing to do with this.

This is a prequel set in New York City. They probably could have made a horror movie with any generic monsters, but with the Quiet Place name attached they get to push the series in a "new direction" for "modern audiences" and get fans of the originals to show up for something only superficially related to the original material.

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Sunday, June 30, 2024 2:04 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Bruce doesn't have predictions out yet, but other outfits are claiming $50-$55 Million in the US this weekend. IF that's anywhere approaching a legit number, it could have $80 to $100 Million worldwide and be most of the way there.



$53,000,000 projected, including preview night.

$98,500,000 projected worldwide.

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So even though it made more than I thought it would, it made WAY LESS than Bruce expected it to last night. And the preview to Friday ratio was quite a bit worse than Ride or Die's was, as I expected it would be. Also, Friday would be one of the two big days for the weekend for a movie like this. Horror movies make way for Children's fare on Sunday, typically. My guess is that it makes around $18-$20 Million today and $13-$15 Million on Sunday.

It will come nowhere close to Bruce's $69 Million, but it would appear that the other outfits claiming $50-$55 Million probably weren't that far off. Including the previews, it probably makes the high end of that prediction or even possibly a few million more.



$16.95 Million on Saturday, $13.55 Million on Sunday.

Really, not a great showing on Saturday considering the genre and demographic. With that Friday and Sunday number, it really should have eclipsed $55 Million on the high end of the non-Bruce predictions.

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Monday, July 1, 2024 11:45 AM

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What I liked about the original is it felt indie, cheap and away from Hollywood in upstate New York.
the original was like 15 million maybe $17 or 18 million with inflation

$67 million yeah maybe that can make money however when compared to other cheap indie US films or Japanese its production is a little on the costly side

These are not supposed to be those big budget films maybe Hollywood needs to learn more, a strict budgets and less than 50 million for any type of thriller fantasy horror

Overseas money will save it, China one of the lead markets

$98.5M on its worldwide
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/32295-a-quiet-place-day-one/


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Monday, July 1, 2024 4:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah...

I'm pretty disappointed that with all the flops we've seen so far in 2024, this one is actually going to be a money maker.

I think they're going to make a pretty decent buck here, despite that budget. But yeah... It cost way too much for the genre. It might end up making somewhere close to what Five Nights at Freddy's made last year, but the difference between a $67 Million budget and a $20 Million budget is staggering on the back end.

Peacock made nearly $250 Million on FNAF. If Paramount gets lucky and this one hits $300 Million, they've only made $130 Million on it.

Still though... can't knock that in 2024 when almost all the movies so far have lost money for the studios.

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Monday, July 1, 2024 8:10 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Woke? Why did Emily go for this crap? Very disappointing, I had higher expectations for her.



No. Emily has nothing to do with this.

This is a prequel set in New York City. They probably could have made a horror movie with any generic monsters, but with the Quiet Place name attached they get to push the series in a "new direction" for "modern audiences" and get fans of the originals to show up for something only superficially related to the original material.

I had been under the impression that Emily was producer of Quiet Place franchise.
Same writers included for 1, 2, 3. Including John Krasinski.
Krasinski also Producer of 1, 2, 3.

Krasinski is husband of Emily. I guess you are saying that wives have no influence over their husbands, at all.
okay.



Anyway, what's the deal? They are supposed to make all of the quality films, with the white folk. Then Tyler Perry is supposed to do cheap remakes of good films, with only colored folk. So now Emily & John are stealing the thunder from Tyler?

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Monday, July 1, 2024 8:50 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Woke? Why did Emily go for this crap? Very disappointing, I had higher expectations for her.



No. Emily has nothing to do with this.

This is a prequel set in New York City. They probably could have made a horror movie with any generic monsters, but with the Quiet Place name attached they get to push the series in a "new direction" for "modern audiences" and get fans of the originals to show up for something only superficially related to the original material.

I had been under the impression that Emily was producer of Quiet Place franchise.
Same writers included for 1, 2, 3. Including John Krasinski.
Krasinski also Producer of 1, 2, 3.

Krasinski is husband of Emily. I guess you are saying that wives have no influence over their husbands, at all.
okay.



Anyway, what's the deal? They are supposed to make all of the quality films, with the white folk. Then Tyler Perry is supposed to do cheap remakes of good films, with only colored folk. So now Emily & John are stealing the thunder from Tyler?




Emily is not a producer on Day One. John Krasinski is credited as one.

Big whoop. What does a producer even do?

"Hey John. Here's a million dollars. Just smile and nod if anybody asks you if you came up with the idea for Day One and let us quote you as saying "It will take us back to where it all began."

From what I've read, there is no reason to believe that John or Emily had anything more to do with Day One than that.

Do you have anything else to offer?

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Tuesday, July 2, 2024 9:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (From the OP on July 1st):
Right now it's got $6.8 Million in previews, which is even more than the $6.6 Million that Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes got, and even more than Bad Boys: Ride or Die got. This makes it the 5th highest preview night in the US in 2024.

I'm calling it right now that this movie will break the 2024 Preview Night / Worldwide Gross rule. There's no way this movie is making more money than Planet of the Apes or Bad Boys does.



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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (June 28th):
These people get one reasonably well performing Bad Boys movie and the first Disney movie that was profitable since Q1 of 2023 and all of the sudden they forget how awful 2023 has been otherwise.

It's summer. It's a PG-13 rated horror flick and the kids didn't have to go to school in the morning. I doubt very much that preview number means what you think it means in relation to other preview numbers so far this year.




It's already happening.

After Day One made $6.8 Million in previews, it only made $5,138,666 on its first Monday.

Bad Boys: Ride or Die made $5.875 Million in previews but it made $6,217,847 on its first Monday.


Why am I better at this than people who claim this is what they do for a living?



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Wednesday, July 3, 2024 6:29 PM

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Day One fared better against Ride or Die on its first Cheap Seat Tuesday than it did on its first Monday, but it's still lagging behind...

Ride or Die first Tuesday: $7,255,222

Day One first Tuesday: $6,774,610



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Saturday, July 6, 2024 11:01 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Just seen something weird I've never seen before...

I noticed that after Tuesday we stopped getting numbers for Day One. That was odd enough as it was since it was put out by a major studio (Paramount), and it was the first week it was in theaters. Usually we only see this happen with the likes of A24 or Focus Features or Angel Studios.

But now we've gotten the Friday night projections, but we still have no numbers at all for Wednesday or Thursday.

I'm not sure if that's a mistake on Bruce's part or if Paramount hasn't reported those two days yet.


ETA: Well... I looked at the graph that shows the daily number didn't flat-line for 2 days. So it made me look at the numbers again and though it made just over $7 Million on Friday, it went up $16 Million from Tuesday's numbers. So it would appear that it did make around $4.5 Million on both Wednesday and Thursday but Bruce hasn't added those figures.

This just makes me question again how Bruce's numbers are all calculated at his site. Some weird things like this over the years like M3GAN not making the 2023 Worldwide or US Top 100 list make me wonder how much manual work Bruce has to do to maintain this data when it could be automated instead.



Only $7 Million though... That's a pretty huge drop from last week, as I expected. -69% from last week on paper, but really it's a -55.3% drop if you remove the Thursday previews.

Worldwide total already is $125,895,563 though, so it won't have any problems breaking even, even if it practically falls off a cliff now. It only needs another $42 Million.

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Sunday, July 7, 2024 3:34 PM

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Looks like a -60% drop for Day One on Weekend 2, according to the studio projections.

Bruce predicted a -46% drop and $26.8 Million. It only got $21 Million.

Worldwide Take so far: $178,156,000

It has now made roughly $10.5 Million for Paramount Pictures, and though I still think it gets nowhere near close to what Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes or Bad Boys: Ride or Die made, every penny it makes going forward is profit.

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Wednesday, July 10, 2024 8:11 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Ok it makes money but with an increased budget was $67 Million

like you said the difference between this and an old school low indie budget a $20 Million movie budget is staggering

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Wednesday, July 10, 2024 4:09 PM

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Yeah. And even though I can't explain the draw it's still making money. It just pulled in another $3.35 Million on Cheap Seat Tuesday.

It's not coming close to Ride or Die or Apes, but it did make Paramount or whoever owns Paramount some money now though.


I know there's special effects in here, and they can't be complete trash or nobody would be going to see it. Other studios should figure out why this movie only cost $67 Million and figure out how to do that.

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Friday, July 12, 2024 8:02 PM

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Bruce predicts only a -34% drop this weekend for another $13.4 Million.

He predicted only a -41% drop last weekend but it dropped -60% though.


I'm not sure if he's counting what I would consider a pretty severe overlap in audiences between Day One and Longlegs when he makes that prediction. I don't think it's reasonable to come out and predict that Longlegs is going to do so well that it puts Disney in 3rd place, but that doesn't translate in damaging Day One's 3rd weekend prospects at the same time.



We're 14 days in, and half of the $104 Million that it's made in the US was made on the first 3 days. (This is fairly typical... I'm just bringing that up again to make the point about the prospects of this going much further being pretty low).


Whether Bruce's prediction is right or not, it will have made well over $200 Million worldwide once the internationals are tallied.



On June 28th when I started the thread I said it wouldn't make more than Bad Boys: Ride or Die or Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes either, despite having a better preview night than both of them. (Although I didn't put figures of where either movie was at that exact time). On the 29th, I posted this...

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I still stand by my prediction that it doesn't out-gross Bad Boys or Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Currently, Bad Boys sits at just a hair below $300 Million, and Apes sits at $386 Million. Bad Boys is still making money as we speak, but I don't believe it needs any further buffer to beat Day One. I doubt very much that Day One will reach $300 Million globally before its run is over.



Since then, Bad Boys: Ride or Die has made another $60+ Million and sits at $363,275,768 worldwide. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes is at $394,908,529.

At this point, that was one of the easiest predictions I could have made, apparently.

Let's use the figures from the 29th and make it at least somewhat interesting. It's not even going to make $300 Million and beat Bad Boys: Ride or Die's worldwide total from 2 weeks ago.

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Sunday, July 21, 2024 11:06 PM

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I watched this on the 4th.

The credits stated that the story was by 2 guys, including Krasinski (Emily's husband), which were the same 2 guys who also did Part 2, and the original.

I don't know what is the purpose of this film. I expect it will compete for audience with Bad Boys. No reason to challenge any scary movie.

Since they all know sound means death, it amazes how many scream.

This film might be the BLM entry compared to the first 2, like Aliens was the Action entry following Alien.

We might expect Biden voters to to swamp this and Bad Boys in droves.


Some have claimed this was just a cash grab for the franchise, it is not really related. I think that tag more aptly applies to The First Omen, earlier this year. Only at the end did that try to make a connection - otherwise a generic and formulaic entry. (plus: disco music in 1971 Rome? At least a half decade too early.)

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Saturday, July 27, 2024 6:40 PM

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Sadly, BLM/DEI Quiet Place cash grab made plenty of money, so expect behavior like this to continue since idiots pretty much had nothing else to watch in theaters and voted poorly with their wallets, when they should have just stayed home and watched something far better on streaming. I assumed that this would be the case going into it, hence the lack of a "failure" in the title of the thread from the beginning.

Paramount was really smart (or lucky) about where they dropped this one in the release schedule. Had they released this last weekend when Twisters dropped and Twisters released when Day One had released, it would have been Day One that lost money and Twisters would have come a lot closer to breaking even than it now will instead (after Deadpool & Wolverine dropped and destroyed everything that wasn't a kids movie).

Paramount only needed $167.5 Million to break even on Day One and it's made nearly $250 Million worldwide.

Its run, which has almost entirely been at the middle or bottom of the "legs" graph, is basically done now though. It only managed one day above $1 Million in the US last week on Cheap Seat Tuesday and it didn't even manage to crack $1 Million on Friday.



Also... Two predictions I made on July 28th...

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm calling it right now that this movie will break the 2024 Preview Night / Worldwide Gross rule. There's no way this movie is making more money than Planet of the Apes or Bad Boys does.



Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes worldwide gross: $396,458,115 (Currently 8th place)
Bad Boys: Ride or Die worldwide gross: $389,490,162 (Currently 9th place)
Day One worldwide gross: $245,907,008 (Currently 12th place)

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[to Bruce/The-Numbers]...if your preview comparison raises your prediction (for opening weekend)from $57 Million to $69 Million, that also means that your final US Box office number of $169 Million is raised to $226 Million.

Not. A. Chance.

I doubt it even sees $169 Million in the US.



Current Day One US Box Office: $132,139,330

Bruce's original prediction was $169 Million, and he had raised it in his articles to quite a bit above that, especially when he high-balled opening weekend numbers.

As I said, it will not make his lower initial $169 Million prediction. It's already had 29 days in theaters, and it would need to have another 37 days straight without being dropped from theaters at over $1 Million per day to hit that number. 37 more days in theaters is highly unlikely. Over $1 Million per day is impossible since we've already seen 4 of the last 5 days under $1 Million and those numbers are only going to be reduced by half every week until it drops out of the box office.

This won't even see $150 Million. It very good chance it won't even see $145 Million. There's a small chance it might not even break $140 Million in the US.

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Sunday, July 28, 2024 6:42 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

[to Bruce/The-Numbers]...if your preview comparison raises your prediction (for opening weekend)from $57 Million to $69 Million, that also means that your final US Box office number of $169 Million is raised to $226 Million.

Not. A. Chance.

I doubt it even sees $169 Million in the US.



Current Day One US Box Office: $132,139,330

Bruce's original prediction was $169 Million, and he had raised it in his articles to quite a bit above that, especially when he high-balled opening weekend numbers.

As I said, it will not make his lower initial $169 Million prediction. It's already had 29 days in theaters, and it would need to have another 37 days straight without being dropped from theaters at over $1 Million per day to hit that number. 37 more days in theaters is highly unlikely. Over $1 Million per day is impossible since we've already seen 4 of the last 5 days under $1 Million and those numbers are only going to be reduced by half every week until it drops out of the box office.

This won't even see $150 Million. It very good chance it won't even see $145 Million. There's a small chance it might not even break $140 Million in the US.



$3,025,000 for the weekend for a 52% drop from last weekend.

$134,229,000 current US take. Womp Womp.

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