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Hollywood's Abysmal 2024 in Numbers

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Thursday, November 21, 2024 7:37 AM

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Box Office: Hollywood Cooking Up Record-Breaking Thanksgiving Feast. With 'Moana 2,' 'Wicked' and 'Gladiator II' on the table, domestic revenue for the five-day holiday corridor is expected to hit an all-time high north of $300 million.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/box-office-record-
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'Elevation'?

This could have been a good video game series today.

If this came out in the Bush or Obama years it could have made money, maybe the era of 2006-2010 DVDs and Block busters it probably would have made money. A few years back a film like this would have cash to make as long as it avoided the crash year the Crash of '08 September when mini-Bush wrecked the economy, the panic of early 2009 and sold itself during the slow growth years of Obama 'Hopium'
sound like Post Apocalypse humans vs mutant Morlocks

Morena Baccarin's big break was Firefly / Serenity then she was a tv star for a good while but tv star doesn't always mean 'Movie Star Power' but then Morena Baccarin is know for Deadpool
Anthony Mackie has a 'Star Power' brand but today the market is so bad even stars of Avengers movies have products crashing, new movies that fail at the box office, eventually a new GenZ won't even know who Falcon is anymore.


The business has changed and Hollywood is dead, nobody is sure where Generation Alpha starts but a few say people born in 2013 are now classed as 'Generation Alpha' they are kids not even teens who perhaps happened to watch what film mum or dad took them to, maybe they still watch Bambi DVD or Wizard of Oz Dvds, PAW Patrol, Lego movie, SpongeBob, a Generation Alpha of generation of people born between 2010 and 2024. If you were born in 2010 then Gen Alpha can be as old as 24, most of Generation Alpha might not watch SKorean films or shows maybe too adult some some will watch and they are certainly watching more Japan 'Anime' and its a completely different generation as none of them remember 911 or the Invasion of Iraq, everyone approaching adult age is on their phone.
Unless 'Trump' does something magic maybe The West could also decline, just like the hermit isolated people of Japan with their gizmos eventually the US might start to retreat from itself, spend less and you go to empty theaters just like Japanese Cinema Trends

to make a brand that sells? Maybe it would have been better as a game, it sounds like an number of post-apocalyptic survival-horror video games

'Gears of War' for example

to its credit it has independent production companies, but its not going to make any big money

$18 million, Box office $3 million

Metascore 49
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/elevation/
User Score 4.4

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$200 Million.

$300,000,000 for Wicked Part One (2024) and Part Two (2025). Variety predicts it will dazzle. I suspect it will fizzle.



I agree with your prediction on this one.

Especially when the lady playing the wicked witch has been spreading cancer on Twitter.

Not exactly Rachel Ziegler levels of cancer, but it should be enough to put a musical nobody wanted to see in theaters in the red.


Also, as a 45 year male I can appreciate what people see in Ariana Grande. I wouldn't be taking any kids of mine to see her. I don't think they possibly could have chosen somebody worse for the roll of Dorothy.




They are selling the Hype again, Hollyweird reports about itself that it has a few more 1.5 Billion Dollar Movies before the Christmas or New Year...

...please ignore what's happening to RedOne.


$3.16M on Tuesday

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1859332736085000573
Total domestic gross stands at $36.93M.


does it have legs, what excuses will they have? its doing great on i-tunes or download flix, maybe straight to DVD, claims of toy and t-shirt sales, VOD route?

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Thursday, November 21, 2024 5:53 PM

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Moana 2 is one of the few movies out for the rest of the year that I predicted would make at least enough to bump the Chinese movies down the top 10 list. Until I see signs otherwise, I don't think this should be hard to do at all.

I think they're in for a HUGE disappointment with Gladiator II almost for sure, and though I think Wicked will do better it won't be a huge success if it does manage to break even.

They'd better get ideas of any of these movies making $1.5 Billion out of their head. If any of them hit $1 Billion I will be amazed. Moana 2 is the only movie on the rest of the 2024 slate that has even the slightest chance of making over $1 Billion.


I wonder how many people didn't go see Red One because of Chris Evans.

I didn't even know he was in it, and this is the type of movie I would NEVER watch on my own for any reason anyhow. But I thought it was funny when my old man said that he would have taken my brother to see it this weekend to support the local 2-screen theater while he was there, but because Chris Evans came out with most of the other pathetic ex-Avengers team to tell people to vote for Kamala he's not going to ever watch a movie with any of them again.



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Thursday, November 21, 2024 5:58 PM

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Also, as a 45 year male I can appreciate what people see in Ariana Grande. I wouldn't be taking any kids of mine to see her. I don't think they possibly could have chosen somebody worse for the roll of Dorothy.

There is no Dorothy! Ariana Grande is the Good Witch! Ariana Grande (who plays Galinda, aka Glinda the Good) and Cynthia Erivo (who plays Elphaba, aka the Wicked Witch of the West).



Ah. Okay...

Sorry. I'm not up on my Broadway musicals or the Extended Wizard of Oz Universe.

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Ariana Grande is perfect for the role because: "before Grande was a megafamous pop star, before she was even a breakout actress on a Nickelodeon television show, she was a theater kid. The “thank u, next” singer charmed in a local production of Annie at 8 years old, and landed her first big gig at 15, as an original cast member of the Broadway musical 13. Though she swiftly moved onto the screen (in the teen show Victorious) and up the charts (with a handful of high-selling albums), Grande remains known for her love of the stage, still managing to do projects like 2016’s Hairspray Live! She is also, famously, a mentee of Kristin Chenoweth, Broadway’s original Galinda, and has commented on Galinda being her dream role since she first saw Wicked as a tween. If Grande’s Broadway tenure and her musical legend of a mentor weren’t enough to prove her theater-kid bona fides, Grande has also shown a breadth of musical knowledge that only a true stan of the stage could possess."


Yeah... But this.







That's a particularly cute outfit she has on in the 3rd video. It's the same one my dominatrix wears while putting me up naked on the stretcher and stomping on my balls in between the whippings.

Half of the dads in that audience doing their best to think of baseball stats and war so they don't sport chubs with their daughters standing right next to them. Yanno... because they brought their daughters to a burlesque show.

I'm not a parent, but I know I wouldn't be taking my impressionable daughter to see anything Grande is involved with if I were.

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Maybe the movie can be as lucrative as the Broadway musical:
In 2016, Wicked surpassed $1 billion in total Broadway revenue, joining The Phantom of the Opera and The Lion King as the only Broadway shows to do so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_(musical)



Doubtful.

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Friday, November 22, 2024 6:00 AM

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Elevation flop or not, a 2024 movie

to their credit at least they are trying to build something outside the mainstream Hollyweird studios

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Friday, November 22, 2024 1:39 PM

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Gladiator does good but not everywhere. Overseas it looks like Gladiator might struggle in places like China in competition with local Chinese movies, another movie 'To Gather Around' is doing ok, for some reason the Chinese are also watching reruns or re-release of 'Harry Potter'.

Anora film a funny dramatic sleazy comedy drama? English, Russia, Armenia language, Budget $6 million, Box office$21 million

Smile 2 a horror movie domestic stands at $66.49M.

Conclave mystery religion thriller Total domestic gross stands at $27.62M.

I don't know what Amazon MGM Studios' were thinking with a 250 Million Dollar 'Red One'

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Friday, November 22, 2024 5:45 PM

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$6.5 Million in previews could only be considered "good" for a $250 Million movie in 2024.

It's been over a half a year since I really paid attention to any of this, but I believe this puts its ranking in previews somwhere around what the Bad Boyz movie got. That movie failed to make $400 Million worldwide.

Gladiator II needs $625 Million just to break even, so good luck to them.



I'm extremely disappointed in the $19.5 Million that Wicked got in previews.

That probably will be one of the last movies from Hollywood that pushes down the Chinese flicks, and with a budget of only $145 Million, it's going to smash Gladiator II.

Gross.



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Saturday, November 23, 2024 1:13 PM

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Amazon MGM Studios' Red One grossed an estimated $3.34M on Friday (from 4,032 locations). Estimated total domestic gross stands at $42.97M.

https://x.com/borreport/status/1860349552529928528

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Sunday, November 24, 2024 5:11 AM

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Wicked starts to collect cash and

Looks like $19M SAT for Gladiator2. $41M+ Total. Weekend headed for $55-56M.

https://x.com/mejat32/status/1860506105605931017


Feedback from Gladiator 2 is still mixed, after listen to arty people 'Wicked' already had a follow it was a San Fransisco Broadway a musical, multiple international shows with music and lyrics by Stephen Schwartz and a book by Winnie Holzman.

RED ONE
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/32786-red-one-500m-overseas-%
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Venom
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3290006273/
Friday $975,000

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice 2024
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Beetlejuice-Beetlejuice-(2024)#tab=s
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Worldwide Box Office $450,222,374

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Sunday, November 24, 2024 9:10 AM

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I don't believe that Glicked has what it takes to make $200 Million this weekend.

I don't think it's cute that they're calling it Glicked either.

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Sunday, November 24, 2024 9:23 AM

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Yeah... Bruce had an article about Glicked...

His model's prediction for Wicked alone was $143.5 Million and he said it looks like over $150 Million based on the previews.

It had $19.2 Million in previews on Thursday, and it's total after Friday is $46.5 Million. That means it only made around $27.5 Million on Friday.


Compare that to Barbie which made $22.3 Million in previews but had had $70.5 Million after Friday. That was a $48 Million Friday night.

This isn't making $150 Million. Maybe $120.


I think the Thursday night previews were fairly heavily front-loaded with big city types that love Broadway and have been dying for opening night since they saw the Super Bowl commercial for it.

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