Hollywood's Abysmal 2024 in Numbers by 6ixStringJack

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Hollywood's Abysmal 2024 in Numbers

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Tuesday, April 23, 2024 4:39 PM

I figured I may as well at least start a thread for this since there's no denying 2024 is off to a terrible start.

I'll even argue that it has very little to do with woke or other agenda driven content that started somewhere between 2012 and 2016 and came to a head in 2023. Outside of a few examples like the American Society of Magical Negroes and a racist Don't Tell Mom, The Babysitter's Dead remake they tell me is in theaters but nobody can find anywhere, I can't really think of any recent agenda driven flicks that were released in 2024.

And it's not like there's a lot of films I even have to recall at this point. They're putting out so little nearly 4 months into the year.

As evidence of both these observances, just look at the video view counts on the Geek Culture Rage Bait YouTubers recent videos compared to last year. I've even found some of the channels I respect putting out videos that they're going to look back on with regret simply because they're really reaching for content to keep their channel views up and making petty complaints about things that are beneath them to complain about.

2024 is going to be the Year of Reckoning for Hollywood. They spent years trying to push stuff on audiences they didn't want to see without any regard for their bottom line and talked a big game about how they didn't need you as an audience anymore when all that no-interest money was floating around, but all that money dried up and they found out really quick how untrue that was.

Then the writers went on strike, and the actors soon after that... and it went on for months. All the while the Media made it sound as if the world was holding their collective breath the entire time when in reality nobody cared, and boy did they celebrate when they got what they wanted and talentless hacks like Jimmy Kimmel and Steven Colbert could finally resume their nightly propaganda.

I don't think there's much celebrating among them right now though. Unless they had a hookup to a decent, stable job outside of entertainment, most of them are too busy working 2 or 3 part-time minimum wage jobs just to pay the bills since the vast majority of work they had lined up for 2024 just disappeared into the ether.

Nobody wants to watch any of their trash, and with the economy as it is today the people have made it very clear they have no more interest or ability to continue paying to be preached to and browbeaten.

Maybe I'll end up doing the numbers again like I did last year. If I do, I don't imagine that I'd even start that list until a good deal into the 4th quarter. It's so much work updating that all the time, especially making the tables on this website. But eventually I'll get around to doing the final numbers for 2023 and if I do the 2024 list we'll have those statistics for what are going to be looked back on as two very interesting years in Hollywood.

I'm going to go ahead and take up the next 2 posts here for the graphs in case I get around to them.

Feel free to post your thoughts or predictions about the 2024 Box Office.

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Tuesday, April 23, 2024 4:39 PM

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Tuesday, April 23, 2024 6:09 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Jerry Seinfeld declares the movie business 'is over,' not the 'pinnacle' of society anymore

By Lauryn Overhultz | April 23, 2024 12:20pm EDT

https://www.foxbusiness.com/entertainment/jerry-seinfeld-declares-movi
e-business-over-not-pinnacle-society-anymore

Comedian Jerry Seinfeld admitted the movie business "is over" as he prepares to debut his first feature as a director.

Seinfeld, 69, began his stand-up comedy career in 1976 and later starred in his own TV show for nine seasons. The comedian took on his first film as director with "Unfrosted," set to premiere in May.

"It was totally new to me," Seinfeld told GQ of working as a director. "I thought I had done some cool stuff, but it was nothing like the way these people work. They’re so dead serious! They don’t have any idea that the movie business is over. They have no idea."

He explained that "film doesn’t occupy the pinnacle in the social, cultural hierarchy that it did for most of our lives. When a movie came out, if it was good, we all went to see it. We all discussed it. We quoted lines and scenes we liked. Now we’re walking through a fire hose of water, just trying to see."

Seinfeld had a few ideas about what might have "replaced" the industry's spot in the cultural hierarchy.

"Depression? Malaise? I would say confusion," he told the outlet. "Disorientation replaced the movie business. Everyone I know in show business, every day, is going, ‘What’s going on? How do you do this? What are we supposed to do now?’"

Seinfeld isn't worried about the industry collapse due to his prolific career in comedy. "Seinfeld" was one of the highest-rated shows on television throughout its nine-season run. The comedian also launched "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee" in 2012, which ran for 11 seasons.

The whole interview is at https://www.gq.com/story/jerry-seinfeld-gq-hype

Unfrosted | Official Trailer | Netflix

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, April 23, 2024 6:57 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

I saw some charts at The Numbers the other day, don't know how I stumbled upon them.

They showed the worst performances in Box Office history. Almost all of the huge failures were from 2020 and newer.

Wish I could find those again, don't see them now.

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Thursday, April 25, 2024 11:49 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I saw some charts at The Numbers the other day, don't know how I stumbled upon them.

They showed the worst performances in Box Office history. Almost all of the huge failures were from 2020 and newer.

Wish I could find those again, don't see them now.

If you do find it, let me know. I'd love to see that.

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Thursday, April 25, 2024 12:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Jerry Seinfeld declares the movie business 'is over,' not the 'pinnacle' of society anymore

I disagree with Jerry on the first part, but not on the 2nd part.

Although I don't think that Jerry actually said "it's over", and that was the writer's interpretation for a headline.

Hollywood will be fine. You don't just stop making movies. But we're witnessing a huge change taking place right now. There's no movies in the movie theaters right now because they cancelled hundreds of projects last year. Of the few that have come out so far in 2024, most of them cost way too much to make and lost the studios money.

This is a time to regroup and figure out how to make money again now that the free interest loans are gone.

It turns out that you actually have to serve your customers and give them what they want when you can't just borrow your way out of all your problems.

And as for those who engage in "Hollywood Accounting", it's time for them to give that up and find another way to scam their money, because continuing to do it with movies is going to get them caught real quick under our current conditions.

Let's just say that we're never going to see another moving starring Brie Larson make over a Billion dollars at the box office again.

In the meantime, if you live around a theater showing one of them, you might be able to enjoy some older movies. Monday they were showing Spider-Man 2 for a single day and it almost made $1 Million. Shrek 2 was available in 1,512 theaters for 2 weekends straight and the week in between just last week.

This weekend, they're re-releasing the original Alien movie and 1999's The Mummy. They're both opening wide as well.

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Saturday, April 27, 2024 9:25 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

The Ministry oUW is not allowed in Canada cinema.
Do you have data showing what portion of North American Box Office is from Canada?

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Saturday, April 27, 2024 10:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The Ministry oUW is not allowed in Canada cinema.

Really? Why?

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Do you have data showing what portion of North American Box Office is from Canada?

I do not. If you ever find any I'd be interested in seeing it. Maybe Bruce breaks that down for paying subscriptions?

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Sunday, April 28, 2024 2:22 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The Ministry oUW is not allowed in Canada cinema.
Really? Why?

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Do you have data showing what portion of North American Box Office is from Canada?
I do not. If you ever find any I'd be interested in seeing it. Maybe Bruce breaks that down for paying subscriptions?

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Not allowed in cinema in CA, UK, or Yurp. Some youboob contraption paid them to exclude cinema viewers.

So the NA Box Office is substantially lower than the other films at the BO. I just don't know how much. I don't recall another film which had delayed, or staggered, or separate release for USA vs CA.

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Sunday, April 28, 2024 2:34 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I saw some charts at The Numbers the other day, don't know how I stumbled upon them.

They showed the worst performances in Box Office history. Almost all of the huge failures were from 2020 and newer.

Wish I could find those again, don't see them now.
If you do find it, let me know. I'd love to see that.

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That stuff is really hard to find again, after stumbling across it.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/budgets
This should be one of them. Look at the last list on that page.

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Sunday, April 28, 2024 3:46 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The Ministry oUW is not allowed in Canada cinema.
Really? Why?

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Do you have data showing what portion of North American Box Office is from Canada?
I do not. If you ever find any I'd be interested in seeing it. Maybe Bruce breaks that down for paying subscriptions?
Not allowed in cinema in CA, UK, or Yurp. Some youboob contraption paid them to exclude cinema viewers.

So the NA Box Office is substantially lower than the other films at the BO. I just don't know how much. I don't recall another film which had delayed, or staggered, or separate release for USA vs CA.

I don't get the youboob contraption reference, so I'm lost on that one. Sorry.

I found this, and it sounds right to me. Granted, it was a reddit thread from 5 years ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/cud5kf/na_how_much_does_ca
nada_add_to_domestic_box/

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How much does Canada add to domestic box office numbers and why aren’t they split out as their own country?

The two top answers in that thread...

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Canada has a population about 1/10th of the US. So I would assume Canada accounts for 1/11th of the domestic numbers.

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There was a post here about Canada box office numbers for several movies from 2015 onward.

I did the math and assuming those numbers were reported in USD, the Canadian numbers generally accounted for about 8-10.5% of a films total domestic gross.

Or roughly, 1/11th.

Probably around $1 - $1.5 Million is the missing figure with no Canadian box office.

It's a shame, but for whatever reason Guy Ritchie just keeps putting out the box office flops. I would have to imagine that this movie had already been greenlit and far enough into production for investors to pull out by the time he had his back-to-back mid-budget flops in the theaters last year. I wouldn't expect to see anything out of him after this for a while.

I think he'd be great at low-budget fare.

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Sunday, April 28, 2024 8:04 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I didn't even know it until today when I read that Kung Fu Panda 4 is the 3rd movie of 2024 to earn over $500 Million, but KFP4 is also the third movie to displace all of China's top performing movies of 2024 so far as well. I honestly didn't see that one coming.

https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cu
mulative/released-in-2024

It will be interesting to see if or even when the US finally manages to knock China out of the Top 10 this year. Currently, there are no movies in the box office outside of Dune: Part 2, Godzilla x Kong and Kung Fu Panda 4 that are going to come close to beating YOLO, let alone the other 3 Chinese movies that are sitting at 5th, 6th and 7th place as of today.

We're already 1/3rd finished with 2024. They'd better have a few bangers coming out this summer to make up for the slow start.

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Sunday, April 28, 2024 10:18 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The Ministry oUW is not allowed in Canada cinema.
Really? Why?
Not allowed in cinema in CA, UK, or Yurp. Some youboob contraption paid them to exclude cinema viewers.

So the NA Box Office is substantially lower than the other films at the BO. I just don't know how much. I don't recall another film which had delayed, or staggered, or separate release for USA vs CA.
I don't get the youboob contraption reference, so I'm lost on that one. Sorry.

It is called "Prime Video" and they paid to keep cinemas excluded from showing the film.

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