Who thought Book was a Fed? by Blinker

FIREFLY EPISODE DISCUSSIONS

Who thought Book was a Fed?

POSTED BY: BLINKER
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 6, 2005 22:08
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Thursday, June 9, 2005 7:14 AM

There's a scene in the pilot where Mal is interrogating Simon about his connection to the Alliance. Then Book walks in and bombshells, "Hate to say it, Captain, but you've got the wrong man."

Everyone lets that hang in the air for a moment, until Mal realizes that Book is referring to Dobson rather than himself.

And so, the question: did anyone watching for the first time fall for the fakeout, briefly thinking that Book might be the mole? 'Cause I'm thinking that if airing the pilot last

didn't kill that moment for everyone, the opening credits might have anyway.

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Thursday, June 9, 2005 7:17 AM

MANWITHPEZ

Important people don't do field work.

You know, none of the passengers were supposed to be in the cargo hold...We know why Simon, and why Dobson was there...What the hell was Book doing there though? Man, I wish they would have gotten to that one...

And, why do you think the credits killed that idea? Joss Whedon is well known for pulling capers with his opening credits...

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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Friday, June 10, 2005 7:50 AM

TZIGONE

Well, I saw them in original airing order, so I knew the truth.

But a friend of mine who borrowed my dvds (and I told her to skip the opening credits on the first ep) totally bought into it. She said she knew it wasn't the doctor, because he was too obvious, but she thought it was the shepherd. She'd forgotten about Dobson.

She thought Zoe was killed too. She knew in advance that Kaylee wasn't because we mentioned the actress being in the movie before she decided to watch the show.

She didn't know Simon, River, and Book would be staying on the ship though - thought they were just guest stars.

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Friday, June 10, 2005 8:00 AM

FRAY101

Trying to remember...but you know, for that split second I think maybe I did. Or if not a Fed, that he was the one with something to hide...

Which of course he may well still be!

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Friday, June 10, 2005 8:02 AM

CALLMESERENITY

I have to admit that I thought it, for that split second before the camera panned to Dobson. My thoughts ran something like this, "NO! Not Book! I like him! Oh, wait, it's the annoying guy instead. Whew!."

And speaking of Joss messing with credits-I remember the episode of Buffy when Jonathan was the "superhero" and the credits were like the Jonathan show. I hadn't seen it awhile and I was thinking "what the heck is going on? Did I miss something? I know I haven't seen Buffy in awhile, but what's up with Jonathan? This is weird!!" I was so confused for about the first 5 minutes before I realized that something not quite right was going on.

And then I learned never to trust anything Joss gives you at face value.

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Sunday, June 12, 2005 7:44 PM

SUBGUY

One of the rumors going around the fan nets presently is that perhaps Book was an Operative before he found religion.

It would also fit with his comment in the pilot that he "...never married."

Captain Pete
"What can Brown do for you?"

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Monday, June 13, 2005 7:41 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Quote:
Originally posted by Tzigone:
Well, I saw them in original airing order, so I knew the truth.

(points above)

Me too. Saw them on TV out of order so I already knew that Book was not the mole.

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Monday, June 13, 2005 11:48 AM

THEDUKE

i dont really remember, altho i do think book culd still be up to something, i find him teh singularly most intruiging member of the show.
Because u never know what he's gonna do or say, he's entirely unpredictable, because let's face it, we have no idea who he is, we can't even be sure he's a proper shepherd

We achieved the impossible, and that makes us mighty

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Monday, June 13, 2005 3:39 PM

ASTRAGYNIA

Subguy, please put your above comment in spoiler mode. Edit: thanks for changing it. :)

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Monday, June 13, 2005 4:28 PM

MANWITHPEZ

Important people don't do field work.

With the opening credits, I meant more along the lines of:

In the commentary for Welcome To The Hellmouth, Joss said he wanted to put the actor that played Jesse in the opening credits just to mess with people, but cooler heads prevailed.

And, over on Angel :

Select to view spoiler:

Doyle was put in the first few episodes just to wrench some heart strings. I mean, a TV Guide interview I read let me know that he wasn't going to be around for very long, but seems like Joss got his wish by putting someone in the opening credit sequence, just to kill them off a few episodes later. Bastard!!!

And, of course, the Jonathon thing...I have to say that I was rolling on the floor laughing about that one...

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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Monday, June 13, 2005 4:40 PM

RICKKER

Didn't really think Book was the mole in train job. Did find it interesting that he knew so much about crime. The incedient when he was shot and had to get patched up by Alliance meds because Simon got snatched. In Objects in space both Rivers vidsion and Jubal's "thats no sheperd" I really want to see what his secrets are.

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Monday, June 13, 2005 5:59 PM

THEPIKEY

theres more to than what has already been said that leads me to think that Book was a fed once upon a time in his life.... and there are what i preceive as clues to that....

1. when shepard gets shot in "SAFE" and they go to the feds for help... when the Fed sees books ID card they quickly rush him away. and Mal asks him about it when he is back on serenity

2. "OBJECTS IN SPACE" when Juble Early knocks out Book and simon asks "is knocking out a shepard part of your job?" early looks back at book and says "That aint no shepard"

3. Books knowledge of the feds and how they work.

and the last one ill post for now...

4. In Objects in Space when River is walking around reading everyones minds... she looks at book and book responds "I dont care if your guilty or innocent"

those are just some of the clues that lead me to belive that book was one hard ass officer for the alliance.

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Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:50 AM

RIXX

I always thought that Book was a bounty hunter who found God or something along those lines. Early knows him, he's handy with a gun, knows the names of prominent criminals, doesn't care about innocence or guilt and can help out in cases of kidnap.

As for his Alliance-friendly ident card, I don't know. Perhaps he's done an important job in the past for them. All speculation mind.

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Sunday, June 26, 2005 11:24 AM

WYVERN29

Re: ManWithPez's comment.

I know its off topic but regarding what you said about Angel...The actor you're referring to was fired for drug-related problems, and overdosed sometime later, so its just as good Wheedon let him go when he did.

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Wednesday, July 6, 2005 10:05 PM

FREDIKAYLLOW

In relation to Book in Serenity.
One of my sisters gave me the Firefly dvd's (It never aired here) and my other sister-the little mole she is- told me that Book was actully the bad guy. So you see, I went through the entire series (which only took me about 3 days to watch, I never stopped) thinking 'Okay, he's going to be revealed as a bad guy any moment now.' Come Objects in Space and I was like 'Any minute now....okay,and NOW!' and it never came. So I can be excused for thinking it was Book. Right??

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XOXOX-FREDIKAYLLOW-XOXOX

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Wednesday, July 6, 2005 10:08 PM

FREDIKAYLLOW

In relation to Book in Serenity.
One of my sisters gave me the Firefly dvd's (It never aired here) and my other sister-the little mole she is- told me that Book was actually the bad guy. So you see, I went through the entire series (which only took me about 3 days to watch, I never stopped) thinking 'Okay, he's going to be revealed as a bad guy any moment now.' Come Objects in Space and I was like 'Any minute now....okay,and NOW!' and it never came. So I can be excused for thinking it was Book. Right??

No Power In The 'Verse Can Stop Me
XOXOX-FREDIKAYLLOW-XOXOX

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