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Originally posted by GreyRaven37:
...a leader of a rebellion...

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Originally posted by Vorpal:
I'm sure the Alliance considers them rebels.I would imagine that those who colonized the Independent Worlds came from the Alliance Worlds,just as European settled the American Colonies.I know that the US colonies were flag colonies of European powers,whereas that may not have been the case in the Verse,but I'm sure the Alliance looked at them as little backwaters that couldn't possibly survive on their own.So they might not be rebels in a political sense,but culturally and in a mercantile system,financially,the Alliance would see them as such.Besides,History is written by the Victors.

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Mal only once mentions his own homeworld Shadow. What was that world like post-war? Obviously he stays away from it.

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According to the Serenity roll-playing book, the planet Shadow was left uninhabitable by an orbital bombardment from Alliance capital ships during the war. I'm assuming any of his family (mother) and friends (ranch hands) were killed in that incident. I probably wouldn't be headed back there if I were him.

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Originally posted by InevitableBetrayal:
The American colonists threw off the "yolk of oppression" to gain a freedom they didn't formerly have.

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Originally posted by InevitableBetrayal:
Just gonna run that one right into the ground, eh?

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Originally posted by shinyseven2:
I know one popular theory was that Book's pre-Shepherd career was as an Alliance General. Actually I think what would make him keep his mouth shut about his background would be if he were an Independent leader, because then Mal would be even madder at him than at God.

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Originally posted by Vorpal:
What do you think ever happened to the Military leaders of the Independents?I don't know if this was posted on any previous threads,if it was I apologize for missing it...
Mal seems to have some smuggler friends who were buddies in the war,but mostly he deals with criminals.I realize there weren't many survivors of the Battle of Serenity Valley,and he seemed to be one of the few leaders who survived,even though a Sergeant.Were there war crime trials,executions,life sentences on Penal worlds or did the victorious Alliance magnanimously forgive them in order to make Unification easier?
Are Mal & Zoe bitter about being abandoned by their own Commanders? Are there organizations of Browncoats such as Daughters of the Independents,or Veterans of Wars with the Alliance?

MAL-Arrived just in the nick of time,what does that make us?
ZOE-Big Damn Heroes,Sir.

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Originally posted by RocketJock:
I've got a theory, based on the Operative's data profile listing Mal as having received a Medal of Valor for the Battle of Serenity. We have to ask, if the Battle of Serenity Valley was the last of the war, then when was that medal issued?

My guess is that it was during the two weeks of negotiation that followed the Alliance victory.
Chances are, the major part of that negotiation was on the issue of amnesty for former Browncoats -- (C/R the American Civil War amnesty)-- and that as a sop to Independent pride the Browncoat military was allowed to muster its own out with all due honors, including field promotions. And Mal had been acting as an officer in the field for months by that point.

Given that Mal still considers the delay to be a betrayal, there were probably some sweetheart deals cut for the former Independent High Brass. Getting a commission that way was probably the bitterest ashes in his mouth.

Losing the war broke Mal's heart. Being sold out by his own side for some political advantage is what killed his faith.

(I posted most of this on a previous thread, but it seemed to fit this one too.)


"If you can't do something smart, do something right." -- Shepherd Deria Book

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Originally posted by RocketJock:
I've got a theory, based on the Operative's data profile listing Mal as having received a Medal of Valor for the Battle of Serenity. We have to ask, if the Battle of Serenity Valley was the last of the war, then when was that medal issued?

My guess is that it was during the two weeks of negotiation that followed the Alliance victory.
Chances are, the major part of that negotiation was on the issue of amnesty for former Browncoats -- (C/R the American Civil War amnesty)-- and that as a sop to Independent pride the Browncoat military was allowed to muster its own out with all due honors, including field promotions. And Mal had been acting as an officer in the field for months by that point.

Given that Mal still considers the delay to be a betrayal, there were probably some sweetheart deals cut for the former Independent High Brass. Getting a commission that way was probably the bitterest ashes in his mouth.

Losing the war broke Mal's heart. Being sold out by his own side for some political advantage is what killed his faith.

(I posted most of this on a previous thread, but it seemed to fit this one too.)


"If you can't do something smart, do something right." -- Shepherd Deria Book

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ROCKETJOCK,I think that's the best answer in this entire thread.Direct & to the point.

VORPAL

"We've done the impossible,and that makes us mighty..."

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Originally posted by Browncoater:
Discovering a former Independent leader who had sold out to the Alliance at the end of the war, and was now doing some really nasty things would be a great plot for a future episode, would it not?

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