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Question about 'Safe'

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Friday, January 5, 2007 4:25 PM

KEYOKE


Ok, just noticed this.

The hillfolk who capture Simon, presumeably because he's a doctor... how did they know he was a doctor?

They must've known, because they mention it. It's possible, I suppose that they just kidnapped a random person on the offchance that they're a doctor, but that seems a little stupid, to be honest.

Any ideas?

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Friday, January 5, 2007 4:28 PM

PENGUIN


They were hiding behind Mal when he was telling Simon to take River to town...You can hear some rustling branches behind Mal.

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Friday, January 5, 2007 4:31 PM

KELAI


Wow. Really makes you thin hard, doesn't it?

One thing I had always pondered was when Serenity sets down, the rabbit-stripping hillfolks say something like "People like that don't come 'roud here unless they have something, and if we need it, we take it." Hmm. Serenity is considered a piece of go se. Maybe the hillfolk see value in it ...

Back on topic, I have no idea. Did he tell them after he was captured? I was thinkign something along the lines of "I have a crew to care for! I'm there doctor! So let me go!" but in a less corny way. Maybe it would be the clothes, but the clothes could be any rich person. Maybe because rich people are educated so they decided to take the richest-looking person.

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Friday, January 5, 2007 5:12 PM

KEVINGREY


Quote:

One thing I had always pondered was when Serenity sets down, the rabbit-stripping hillfolks say something like "People like that don't come 'roud here unless they have something, and if we need it, we take it." Hmm. Serenity is considered a piece of go se. Maybe the hillfolk see value in it ...


Well, a 26 ft. sail boat may be a piece of crap to a guy who owns a 50 ft. yacht. But, it would look awful grand to someone pulling for crab for their dinner along the shoreline. Hmmm?




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Friday, January 5, 2007 5:22 PM

PIRATECAT


I'm with the little guy in the tux.


"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 11:07 AM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE


Yeah while Mal is talking to him it shows a shot of the bushes rustling. At first you don't really know what it is, but I think you're supposed to realize later that it's the kidnappers.

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:30 PM

KEYOKE


But, during that whole speech, never once does it mention anything about Simon being a doctor.


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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:06 PM

HELL'S KITTEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Keyoke:
But, during that whole speech, never once does it mention anything about Simon being a doctor.

From the scripts:

SIMON
I thought perhaps I could help. With the cows.

MAL
I'll let you know, any of 'em start complaining of palpitations. 'Til then, not much call for a doctor.

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:31 PM

SUPERFLUOUS


I had a look at some of the original scripts, and as it turns out Mal mentions that Simon is a doctor. They could have simply overheard this.

Quote:

ANGLE ON: Simon again. He's made his way off to one side. He scrapes at his shoe with a stick. Mal approaches him.

MAL
What're you doing out here, Doc?
Besides the scraping.
SIMON
I thought perhaps I could help. With
the cows.

MAL
I'll let you know, any of 'em start
complaining of palpitations. 'Til
then, not much call for a doctor.

SIMON
(off Book)
But there is call for a preacher?

MAL
I was surprised myself, but turns out
he's converted five of 'em. Not
easy, neither. Seems they got this
natural inclination toward Hinduism.






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Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:12 AM

KEYOKE


all makes sense now.


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Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:31 AM

PHOENIXROSE

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Just a slight nitpick, here; the shooting script was changed dramatically, so the quoted lines were never said. What was said was "I'm starting to think you've got a little too much time on your hands, Doctor." and it's right before this line that we see the bushes rustle. Mal and many others in the crew frequently refer to Simon as 'Doctor' so it didn't seem at all forced or awkward. In fact, it wasn't until the fourth or fifth viewing that it really clicked with me.
So everyone had it basically right, just the specifics that were a little off. 'Safe' is the only script in my Official Companion that had such drastic changes to the final version. Nearly all the changes are noted at the end of the script in the Companion.


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Friday, November 9, 2007 4:08 PM

WYTCHCROFT


i was reading an interview with joss that said originally tim and he HATED 'safe' and did extensive rewrites including all the flashbacks being completely new. "it came out ok" was the verdict.
does the original script exist???

and i've lost the frackin link to the interview - so if anyone knows...

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Monday, November 12, 2007 7:23 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Please share if you get that linky.

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Saturday, December 20, 2008 7:11 PM

TRUNEVAR


I Made a FireFly Music Video only using clips from the episode "Safe"- check it out if you get the chance :-)

http://ffsafe.angelfire.com/

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Monday, December 22, 2008 8:31 AM

LEEDAVIDT


i look forward to see your video when i get home from work...gotta better connection there...been searchin' and sharin' youtube firefly vids while on myspace...people are damn talented...keep flyin' my friend

http://www.myspace.com/leedavidt

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Monday, December 29, 2008 9:20 PM

TRUNEVAR


Quote:

Originally posted by leedavidt:
i look forward to see your video when i get home from work...gotta better connection there...been searchin' and sharin' youtube firefly vids while on myspace...people are damn talented...keep flyin' my friend

http://www.myspace.com/leedavidt




What the? Whats with changing the music on my Serenity video on YouTube?!
You could at least put the original version on and a note that you changed the other version.

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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:56 AM

LEEDAVIDT


yeah about that...youtube changed the music on one of the movies i believe...they said the music was a copyright infringement...just posted your awesome vids to youtube so browncoats would enjoy them...nothing was intentional and i certainly won't post them if you if you request...sorry my friend

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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 4:59 PM

TRUNEVAR


Quote:

Originally posted by leedavidt:
yeah about that...youtube changed the music on one of the movies i believe...they said the music was a copyright infringement...just posted your awesome vids to youtube so browncoats would enjoy them...nothing was intentional and i certainly won't post them if you if you request...sorry my friend

http://www.myspace.com/leedavidt




No worries. I didn't know they did anything like that. Maybe you could just take that vid off

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Saturday, January 31, 2009 2:58 PM

CRUITHNE3753


Can I add one here - I can't see how did they locate Simon and River?

(Freaky concidence - the random piccy at the side there is showing them at the stake as I type this!)

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Sunday, February 1, 2009 8:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Cruithne3753:
Can I add one here - I can't see how did they locate Simon and River?

(Freaky concidence - the random piccy at the side there is showing them at the stake as I type this!)


You mean how did BDH find the Tams? Or the kidnappers?

If BDH, at night, a town full of torches, viewed from space and considering Simon's near-miraculous talent for alienating folk, probably easy to top the list of candidate locations for investigation.

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Monday, February 2, 2009 8:36 AM

CRUITHNE3753


Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Quote:

You mean how did BDH find the Tams? Or the kidnappers?

If BDH, at night, a town full of torches, viewed from space and considering Simon's near-miraculous talent for alienating folk, probably easy to top the list of candidate locations for investigation.



Yeah I should have been a bit more specific, duh! I did mean our BDHs...

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