out of gas spoilers are for sure by sparda

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out of gas spoilers are for sure

POSTED BY: SPARDA
UPDATED: Monday, March 26, 2007 22:28
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Saturday, March 17, 2007 2:14 PM

out of gas is a brillant episode its actually my favorite beacuse it shows everyones backstory makeing the show more indepth my fav scene is mal and zoe on serenity "ship like this be with ya to the day ya die" "thats beacuse its a death trap sir" "i a you you are lacking very much in imageination cleaner up get her running" "so not running now" "not so much" "whats that" "o that dont worry ill a" "no that" "o something musta been liveing in here" XD i love that scene anyway it also hold the most importent scene in all of firefly mal ignoreing the merchant and stareing at another ship soon to be his home (serenity) this episode also shows mals ambition from when he gets shot and still gets them off the ship fixes it and also when he orders evreyone off the ship while he him self stays on it do you agree that out of gas might just be the most contrivertial episode in firefly? discuss

PS ((sorry for the piss poor spelling))

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Sunday, March 18, 2007 3:46 PM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE

I agree with you that Out of Gas is an amazing episode. You're right that some of the scenes in that one are important, and they help to understand Mal's character, like that he cares so much about his crew. So much, in fact that he would risk dying in space to keep them from seeing the same fate. And then there's also the way they all come back at the end to that shows their devotion, particularly Zoe's. That's probably one of my favorites too!

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Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:44 PM

CERES

I love this episode too. Apart from getting to know more of the back story of the crew I find it so poignant that so much emotion is conveyed by just a look or a word. The look on Jayne’s and Kaylee’s faces when Mal says he’s staying with Serenity. Inara looking down at Mal before finally going in to the shuttle. Wash realising there’s no point in saying anything more when he leaves Mal on the bridge. There’s no long speeches or over dramatic emotion and that makes the episode so much more intense.
The interaction between Mal and Inara is also compelling and I find the bit where Mal says, ‘Everybody dies alone’, so sad. Part of the background of Mal’s character is that he’s lost his faith and that shows it so well. If he was still a Christian he would believe that God was with him when he died and so dying alone is part of his new belief.
Finally there’s the scene between Book and River which I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of. When she tells him that they’re not going to ‘die gasping, that’s not going to happen,’ and there’s just the slightest gleam of hope in his eye before she says, ‘we’ll freeze to death first’. I think that’s an amazing scene.

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Monday, March 19, 2007 12:54 AM

WINDIE

Have to agree my favourite episode.

Well worth watching over and over again.

Why have they taken the sky from ME

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Monday, March 19, 2007 3:53 AM

DONCOAT

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Originally posted by ceres:
Finally there’s the scene between Book and River which I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of. When she tells him that they’re not going to ‘die gasping, that’s not going to happen,’ and there’s just the slightest gleam of hope in his eye before she says, ‘we’ll freeze to death first’. I think that’s an amazing scene.

It's even more amazing when you realize that River's almost certainly wrong about that, and almost certainly knows it. In other words, she was deliberately winding him up.

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Monday, March 19, 2007 11:02 PM

CERES

Yes our River has got a mischievous sense of humour hasn't she

I like it when she tells Simon that the berries are poisonous too.

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Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:07 AM

FILLYGIRL

Operative: "Its worse than you know..." Mal: "It usually is."

IMHO...OOG is the embodiment of what Firefly is and means. We're together and we're on this journey....where ever it takes us, we're a family.

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...it's worse than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal

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Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:42 AM

SPARDA

first up thanks for the worm welcome i was wating for someone to post back saying i was an idiot and tear apart my post but that didnt happen its nice to see that some people out here are mature enough to have a convorstaion with i am also glad that some ppl see my veiws on this subject im nmot alone woooo im danceing right now but you cant see lol i also agree with the "we all die alone" line its in my msn name XD i love that line cuse its well true and sad and yes rivers sence of humor is very twisted but awsome ^_^ summer glau is playing a terminator in the up comeing terminator show on "fox" in case no one knew its supposed to come out like always "this fall"

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Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:56 AM

DONCOAT

Okay sparda, here you go: "You're an idiot!"

Feel better now?

Seriously, though... punctuation is your friend. Your posts would be a lot easier to read if you tried to sentence properly. Just sayin'.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:04 PM

SPARDA

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Originally posted by DonCoat:
Okay sparda, here you go: "You're an idiot!"

Feel better now?

Seriously, though... punctuation is your friend. Your posts would be a lot easier to read if you tried to sentence properly. Just sayin'.

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haha

i know i was kinnda lazy nice little insert there "sentence properly" nathan fillion -adam baldwin in the outakes XD

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Thursday, March 22, 2007 5:47 PM

YINGFOCHUNG

I'm a teacher, so I'll just say 'punctuation and spelling are your friends'.

Then I'll say, I'm new and I'm jumping in like I know everyone - sorry. But I have a question:
Why didn't the bloke who turned up, answering their distress call and carrying a catalyser-thing, just shoot Mal in the head? Why leave him to die over hours instead of just doing the job right and taking the ship with no worries? Unless he planned to chuck him out the back door at some point.

Just wondered. And why, when the lone Mal is pointing a (let's face it) rather weeny pistol at them, do they all just back off? There are more of them, they have bigger, shinier weapons.

Don't get it. But then I don't get why a herd of wildebeest run from a single lioness, either...

Sorry for interrupting, carry on...

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Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:40 PM

CERES

I think the 'not shooting someone in the head' happens in loads of movies and TV shows. Just when you think it would be the obvious thing to do the person is left alive to carry on with the plot. Think how many James Bond movies would finish after half an hour if the villain just shot him in the head.

The crew of the other ship outnumbered Mal but they had upset him just a little, so they couldn't judge what he would do. Even if they killed him he would shoot some of them first and I guess they didn't think it was worth it.

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Friday, March 23, 2007 1:18 AM

DONCOAT

I'm guessing that Mal and Zoe aren't the only ex-soldiers running around the 'verse. The salvage ship's captain could well be another.

People who are trained to use firearms (such as soldiers and law enforcement types) are taught to aim for the largest body mass, that is, the torso. The chances of hitting something at all are much higher, and it's likely to be something significant that will at least disable the target, if not kill outright. The head is a much smaller target and far easier to miss.

This sort of training is likely to kick in during any sort of gunplay, even when the target is close enough to have a good chance at making a head shot. Also, in a "quick draw" situation, it takes a fraction of a second longer to raise the gun to aim at the head rather than the body, and that could make all the difference.

Now, as to the rest of your question: um. Well, maybe because it's kinda funny to see five or six mean ol' bad guys held at bay by a wounded man with a little pea shooter?

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Friday, March 23, 2007 1:55 AM

YINGFOCHUNG

Pity ~ works for me, LOL

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Friday, March 23, 2007 4:01 AM

CLEMENTINE

Not to be a film weenie, but I love the direction in this episode. Joss manages to pull off a lot of cool tricks in Firefly: the tracking from space to River's face in OiS and also the long tracking shot that ends that ep. "River!"

For OoG, he differentiates the present and the near and distant past with colour and focus. And he makes a lot of cool transitions that don't involve cuts. Zoe and Mal walk out the door at the back on "Cause it's a death trap?" and then Mal collapses into frame, bleeding to death in the present. Wow, that is some cool for TV!

Check out John Sayles' Lone Star for a guy who also pulls it off spectacularly.

P.S. I'm blown away by the Amazon numbers for Firefly. Maybe we'll get a new special edition of that too. Just to hold us until the new eps.
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Friday, March 23, 2007 4:26 AM

KINETIC

The only scene I had a prolem with was Kaylee being with that idiot mechanic.

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Friday, March 23, 2007 6:19 AM

CERES

But I think that's the great thing about the people in Firefly, none of them are perfect and they all have human failings. Bester might not have been the best choice that Kaylee ever made but she's human.

I love the direction in this too Clementine.
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Friday, March 23, 2007 6:49 AM

YINGFOCHUNG

I have to agree with everyone one here on OOG. Up until then Our Mrs Reynolds had been my favourite (for obvious reasons), but the way OOG was shot (love those 'memory' shots, LOL) blew me away.

I loved the way Kaylee got her job offer and then bounced out of that engine room going "don't leave without me" (if I've got that right), she was so lovely!
And I saw more of the gent in Mal in that whole scene with Kaylee than perhaps any other - just so many little looks, little nuances, little *things* that made it a fab flashback.

I can't see the Wash one without thinking of the moustaches in the gag reel though. Gets me every time... It's Zoe's face, like she's not actually wearing one at all, the "what's so funny?" look on her face.

Ace.

*sigh*

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"Dammit Mal, I forgot ma line!"

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Friday, March 23, 2007 7:03 AM

MAGHAFFAR

This ep is also my fave, and shows, incidentally, that a HUGE reason Firefly is what it is is because of Tim Minear. Having just finished watching season 1, disk 3 of "Buffy" where all the eps were either written or storied by Joss, I was left feeling less than satisfied (I just Netflixed "Kolchak: the Night Stalker" series from 1974 -- now THAT was a great horror show!). 'Course that was season 1, and I'm sure Joss learned a lot doing Buffy and Angel, so by the time he got to Firefly, he was ready to "spread his creative wings" which he did admirably. Just wanna point out IMHO Firefly without the contributions of Tim Minear might not have lasted even half-season that it did. Also shows that the folks at FvX were looking at the Nielson ratings instead of "Out of Gas". If I only have time to show a potential BCC (Browncoat Convert) one episode, it is always OoG. I remember when I first watched it, I was overwhelmed with the sense that this was MOTION PICTURE quality storytelling. I was happy to have seen it unsullied by commercials, as such banal intrusions would have irritated me to no end having to wade through the tripe to get back to the story. Last point: to me, OoG is the one ep that is really and truly about Serenity as the main character in the show and as the fulcrum upon which the lives of the crew pivot, especially Mal. After losing his faith in God, the only faith he still has is in his ship and (most) of his crew -- "Why didn't you turn on me, Jayne?" "Money wasn't good enough" "What happens when it is?" "Well... that'll be an interesting day." -- that's why Mal's line in the BDM about "Love keeps her in the air when she oughtta falls down..." always chokes me up. And about kaylee & Bester? I LOVE that part! Talk about a great comic twist -- and also ironic that Kaylee doesn't ask her folks if she can have sex with a total stranger, just if she can leave with a bunch of other total strangers on a boat she just fixed. And yah gotta love the Jayne intro. "You share a bunk?" "With THAT one." Just the moment where the guy he's talking about takes an aggressive stance and gestures menacingly with his gun just floors me every time. And Inara's telling line: "You want me... you want me on your ship." First part's true; don't know about the second, tho.
The only flaw (purely from a camera P.O.V.) is at the end in the infirmary when Book takes Mal's hand but we don't actually see that moment in a fuller shot. Wanted to see that. OK, wo-de da-jia, wo-wan-le.

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Friday, March 23, 2007 7:15 AM

KINETIC

Sorry Ceres I must not have been specific enough. My problem was jealousy, pure and unadulterated jealousy.

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Friday, March 23, 2007 10:50 AM

DONCOAT

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Originally posted by yingfochung:
I loved the way Kaylee got her job offer and then bounced out of that engine room going "don't leave without me" (if I've got that right), she was so lovely!

I loved it too, and found it inspiring. You may enjoy this:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=11876

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Monday, March 26, 2007 10:28 PM

CERES

Quote:
Originally posted by Kinetic:
Sorry Ceres I must not have been specific enough. My problem was jealousy, pure and unadulterated jealousy.

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Ahhh, I see. That makes much more sense.

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