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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
It's been over a day since "Our Miss Reynolds" aired, and Jeff Timm still hasn't posted his usual firearm summary. Jeff, you're falling down on the job!

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What I don't get is why Jayne doesn't own a gun that will shoot in a vacuum.

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Originally posted by Haken:
I don't know much about guns (I'm an archer), but wouldn't it be possible to use an airsoft gun with an explosive tipped bullet or something?

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Originally posted by Delvo:
Personally, I'm far more concerned about the electrical bolts in a vaccuum, flickering and jagged like lightning bolts that get that way by taking the momentary path of least resistance through the atmosphere.

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Originally posted by Ringwraith:
Now all we need is for Jayne to own a Smith & Wesson Model 29.

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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
Aha! Gun enthusiasts will save Firefly from cancellation! I guess I better drop out of the conspiracy to void the second amendment

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Originally posted by loonytoon:
tinytimm, most underwater projectiles are stabilized by a cavitation bubble, therefore would be unstable in a vacuum. I imagine a selfpropelled large bore, such as used in the U.S. OICW(Objective Individual Combat Weapon) is probably what vera was firing. My $.02

P.S. I like Zoe`s 1887 winchester sawed off! Nice to see a sci-fi show with real guns!

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Originally posted by Ringwraith:
My wife and I were also discussing that and she figured that there would be just enough air left in the suit to fire off one or two more rounds. The air shouldn't all escape in micro seconds.

Thought it was a neat solution (rather low-tech) to a high-tech problem.

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Originally posted by TinyTimm:
Jeff
Who swore an oath to defend the constitution, so did Kennedy.

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Originally posted by loonytoon:
tinytimm, most underwater projectiles are stabilized by a cavitation bubble, therefore would be unstable in a vacuum. I imagine a selfpropelled large bore, such as used in the U.S. OICW(Objective Individual Combat Weapon) is probably what vera was firing. My $.02

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Originally posted by Zicsoft:

I still think Jayne should have some kind of case for firing Vera in a vacuum. The muzzle end could have some kind of self-sealing force field, like the bar window in "The Train Job." Perhaps he'll ask Kaylee to rig something up once she's finished patching Saffron's hacks.

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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
Interesting that Vera makes such small holes when she obviously packs such a punch. But perhaps the visor material is stronger than anything we have access to.

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Simon: I suppose it's just the though of a little mylar and glass being the only thing that separates a person from nothing

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they could be devastating within 200 yards

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Originally posted by TinyTimm:
Let's face facts folks. If Jayne can shoot like that under the worst of circumstances, I'm on HIS side, whichever or whatever it is!

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Originally posted by loonytoon:
I just re-watched the ep and have two thoughts.
If you look carefully, It shows where the cartridges are stored on the rifle, pointing up, so you have to use the cartridges as a cheek rest. They appear to be approx. .50 caliber straight wall brass cased. They might have used straightwall sharps rounds as props(.50-90 perhaps?). If those rounds were modernized with smokeless powder and exotic bullets(depleted uranium would be fun) with a rimless design, they could be devastating within 200 yards. Judging from the reflex sights, it is not a long range weapon, and the huge muzzle brake would tell us it is an extremely powerful round.Possibly on the scale of a .50bmg, but probably not seeing how little recoil it appeared to have. Anywho, I want one!

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Beautiful detail, but wrong. Guns don't need air to fire. The oxidizer is in the powder. It has to be - there's no way that just ambient air could sustain a fast enough explosion. Without an oxidizer in gunpowder, you'd just get a flammable powder, not an explosive.

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Originally posted by loonytoon:
Smokeless powder IS merely a flammable powder, it needs a enclosed space to fire.

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Plus, vera appears to be gas operated, I wonder if it could generate enough pressure to cycle in space. I think recoil would be ammplified in zero-g.

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Originally posted by RexRaygun:
Agreed! And the guy never even looked down the sights, managed to take out the array and put five rounds through the window, even though Mal told him it wasn't a priority. I guess Jayne felt it was.

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