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Dumb Q about deleted scene that was not deleted

POSTED BY: JCKNIFE
UPDATED: Monday, June 28, 2004 07:21
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Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:27 PM

Okay, the DVD set shows a scene from Objects in Space that it claims was aired with the show on FOX but NOT on the DVD version. Trouble is, that scene WAS in the DVD episode (unless there was some subtle difference I missed). The comment on the deleted scene says something about the comment about Inara leaving being unnecessary now on the DVD set, to stay true to Joss' vision. I'm so confused!

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Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:36 PM

RKLENSETH

There is a difference. It was reshot with some dialogue taken out. The original aired scene had Mal and Inara talking her leaving. The new DVD release scene only had them talking about subtley that she was leaving but didn't go right out there and say it because it was already said in Heart of Gold which was never aired.

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Sunday, June 27, 2004 9:44 PM

DIGIFICWRITER

About this scene: I personally feel that Joss made a mistake in removing dialogue from the DVD version. The reason is that, even though Inara tells Mal she's leaving at the very end of 'Heart of Gold', the info contained in this scene as it was originally shot would have been a great (and needed) follow-up. It creates a feeling of continuity that OiS sadly lacks, and removing it is, IMO, a disservice.

Take my love
Take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care
I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me
Take me out to the black
Tell 'em I ain't comin' back
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me
There's no place I can be
Since I've found Serenity
But you can't take the sky from me

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Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:55 PM

STICKS

the dvd release is the version joss whedon always intended the series to be. the scenes where deleted due to the show being axed and in the end the scenes where shortend,reshoted or just cut out.

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Monday, June 28, 2004 6:14 AM

DIGIFICWRITER

I KNOW that the DVD is as Joss intended the series to be, but in this particular case I think he should have kept the scene as it appeared in OiS when it was originally aired rather than removing it.

Edit: A Browncoat over on the TrekBBS just pointed out that the dialogue in the scene as it appears in the DVD (not the deleted scene) does follow up on the end of HoG, so my main gripe with Joss changing the scene is no longer relevant :)

Take my love
Take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care
I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me
Take me out to the black
Tell 'em I ain't comin' back
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me
There's no place I can be
Since I've found Serenity
But you can't take the sky from me

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Monday, June 28, 2004 6:40 AM

RHUTTNER

Version of the scene that aired on FOX and is in the deleted scene section on the DVD:

INARA
It's not a threat, Mal. I just
can't do my work under these
circumstances.

MAL
You knew the drill when you signed on.

INARA
This is the third planet in a row
where I can't find decent clientele.

MAL
Well, I'm sorry if I'm cutting into
your retirement fund but would it
kill you not to spread for a spell?

INARA
(beat)
You are unreal.
I don't know why I haven't left already.

MAL
Ah, no one's forcing you to stay.

INARA
I'm a big girl. Just tell me.

MAL
None of it means a damn thing.

Version of the scene on the DVD:
INARA
I've put out a few waves to some old
acquaintances -- I may even be able
to find something in New Melbourne,
if you need the shuttle free.

MAL
Only thing you're gonna find in New
Melbourne is fish and fish related
activities. Unless you got an
overwhelming urge to gut sturgeon --
and who hasn't, occasionally --

INARA
But it's a layover point for almost
every planet this side of the system,
and I could... I just don't want to
draw this out.

MAL
You decided when you're gonna tell
the others?

INARA
I... no. I appreciate your not
saying anything.

MAL
I don't. So make up your mind.

INARA
I'm a big girl. Just tell me.

MAL
None of it means a damn thing.

As you can see the DVD version is a continuation of the storyline of Inara leaving from Heart of Gold. The FOX version is not.

Since Heart of Gold never aired, the original version would not make sense (sort of like airing Serenity LAST). So it was reshot to make it more understandable.

Her comment of "I don't know why I haven't left already" is just a general frustration of Mal being Mal. It also could have been a way to deal with the ending of Heart of Gold if it eventually aired.

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Monday, June 28, 2004 6:57 AM

DIGIFICWRITER

Yeah, I'm an official Browncoat (finally). JOOC, am I the only one who thinks they should have at least left the 'I don't know why I haven't left already' line in there when they reshot the scene?

Take my love
Take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care
I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me
Take me out to the black
Tell 'em I ain't comin' back
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me
There's no place I can be
Since I've found Serenity
But you can't take the sky from me

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Monday, June 28, 2004 7:04 AM

RHUTTNER

Quote:
Originally posted by DigificWriter:
Yeah, I'm an official Browncoat (finally). JOOC, am I the only one who thinks they should have at least left the 'I don't know why I haven't left already' line in there when they reshot the scene?

The line 'I don't know why I haven't left already' IS in the reshot scene. The FOX version was reshot, the DVD version was the original.

The line doesn't make sense in the original version because Mal didn't provoke her. They were being civil towards each other. Where would it fit?

BTW, JOOC?

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Monday, June 28, 2004 7:21 AM

DIGIFICWRITER

Okay. I thought the scene in the DVD was reshot. And I personally don't think the line 'I don't know why I haven't left already' is dependant on Inara getting po-ed with Mal.

BTW, JOOC means Just Out Of Curiosity.

Take my love
Take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care
I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me
Take me out to the black
Tell 'em I ain't comin' back
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me
There's no place I can be
Since I've found Serenity
But you can't take the sky from me

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