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Originally posted by kef:

More unbelievable to me was that Wash and Kaylee were able to slap together a working med vehicle out of junk parts so quickly. Not that they weren't capable of building it, but that they were able to do it seemingly in just a few hours, at most.

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Originally posted by JaynesGirlfriend:
From planning to finish the job took two days. Wash and Kaylee had spare parts and what looked like the entire frame of the ship to work with. I also got the impression the ship was the last thing finished. So they had almost that entire two days to build it.

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Originally posted by Docebo:
While I was rewatching Ariel last night it occured to me that since the blue hands already knew that river and simon were on a firefly class ship

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Originally posted by kef:

More unbelievable to me was that Wash and Kaylee were able to slap together a working med vehicle out of junk parts so quickly. Not that they weren't capable of building it, but that they were able to do it seemingly in just a few hours, at most. And most junk yard want money for their junk. Particularly the big, useful pieces of junk. Simon specifically said it was a "shopping expedition".

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Originally posted by TinyTimm:
You have to remember, this is a CORRUPT inner world. The Med Vehicle was just painted over to neutralize the markings, the vehicle was replaced because it was required after a certain number of hours. The scrapyard was just that. Parts cannot be recycled because of Union Work Rules demanding new replacement parts. So they slipped the guard a fin, promised the stuff would disappear rimward and never be seen again. The scrapyard got paid on delivery, the Guard got a case of beer, the Serenity's got a fortune in stolen drugs and everybodies happy. Well, except the Alliance Marshalls and the morgue which is gonna have paperwork out the ying, and through the yang.


Jeff
Who is was minor bureaucrat.

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Originally posted by NixxIgnatius:
Actually, it occured to me that the Serenity has likely already been taken off the badlist of Fireflys. Why?

Remember Bushwacked? The Alliance Commander did a fairly good search of the ship before he was attacked by the Reaver.

I can only imagine that the Commander would report that he searched the firefly Serenity and didn't find anything. This would also fit in with Safe where the Alliance didn't grab them.

However, I think they might end up doing a search on Jayne now. And if Jayne can be tagged to Serenity, they might realize their mistake.

Nixx

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The Hands of Blue were interested in the cruiser's commander's contact with a Firefly and its crew at the end of Bushwacked, and showed him a picture of River. Whether it was supposed to be shown later or not, it wasn't, so this is what we have.

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Actually, no -- the Bluehand Agents popped up at the end of The Train Job, not the end of Bushwhacked. So they wouldn't have known about Serenity, because nothing in the train heist provided evidence directly showing that a Firefly-class vessel was used.

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"An alert issued on an unidentified vessel, Firefly flass, rumoured to be carrying two fugitives, brother and sister"

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Originally posted by Delvo:
A reminder of a crucial point already raised: They searched Serenity and didn't find them. We can safely presume they also checked the poeple's IDs, the vehicle registration, the license plate, and the VIN. So they know that ship and its people now specificly, by name, and have them on the list of Fireflies that are CLEAR. So if they figure their prey is still on a Firefly, they're not figuring it's THAT one, so Serenity would be just another one of zillions of civilian craft coming and going on private business they don't really care about.

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Actually, no -- the Bluehand Agents popped up at the end of The Train Job, not the end of Bushwhacked. So they wouldn't have known about Serenity, because nothing in the train heist provided evidence directly showing that a Firefly-class vessel was used.

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Originally posted by Lindley:

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Actually, no -- the Bluehand Agents popped up at the end of The Train Job, not the end of Bushwhacked. So they wouldn't have known about Serenity, because nothing in the train heist provided evidence directly showing that a Firefly-class vessel was used.

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Unless someone.......looked out the window?

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This definetly seems to sum it up pretty good for me. I don't think the bluehands knew anything about the fake med vehicle or anything else. If they had they would have made sure the fakes never had a chance to get away.

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Originally posted by Straycat:

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Actually, no -- the Bluehand Agents popped up at the end of The Train Job, not the end of Bushwhacked. So they wouldn't have known about Serenity, because nothing in the train heist provided evidence directly showing that a Firefly-class vessel was used.

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They did indeed, and all they said was that they were looking for a girl (and showed a pic of River)

However - in Bushwacked, the crew of the Alliance cruiser pulled up the following when they spotted Serenity -

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"An alert issued on an unidentified vessel, Firefly flass, rumoured to be carrying two fugitives, brother and sister"

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Which is why they go searching Serenity for Simon and River. So... they did know to look for a Firefly. However - I guess the chances that the pair were *still* on a Firefly would be slightly less, although the presence of a Firefly in port might suggest to them that it was likely.

I have my own question about the blue-handed guys... namely - if recapturing River is *so* important, why the did they dally to kill people while she escaped? When they disposed of the first bunch they didn't know she was gone, but they still paused to kill someone once they did know. How can it be so important to silence people who've heard her talk that they're prepared to risk her escaping to do so? (Especially someone who was incapacitated like that - they could easily have gone back for him)

I truly hope we get to find out what's going on with these guys.... and that the explanation is worth the wait.

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Originally posted by Docebo:
While I was rewatching Ariel last night it occured to me that since the blue hands already knew that river and simon were on a firefly class ship that when serenity took off minutes after simon, river, and jayne escaped that the blue hands would now know exactly which firefly they were on. Or even if not exactly they can probably narrow it down a lot. Maybe this was intended, or maybe i am just bieng dumb. (btw that is a high-larious emoticon)

-Docebo

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I have my own question about the blue-handed guys... namely - if recapturing River is *so* important, why the did they dally to kill people while she escaped? When they disposed of the first bunch they didn't know she was gone, but they still paused to kill someone once they did know. How can it be so important to silence people who've heard her talk that they're prepared to risk her escaping to do so? (Especially someone who was incapacitated like that - they could easily have gone back for him)

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However, I think they might end up doing a search on Jayne now. And if Jayne can be tagged to Serenity, they might realize their mistake.

As for tracking Jayne how much info do they have on him being as they killed all the witnesses?

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ljosalf wrote:
Sunday, February 29, 2004 08:18
I've been considering whether Jayne's identity/existence was "made" on Arial in association with the Tams. From his actions, upto and after the incident it is pretty clear that *Jayne* doesn't consider himself in danger or doesn't care, a la his sarcastic "I've never been in trouble with the law before...". Jayne could be wrong, though.

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However, I think they might end up doing a search on Jayne now. And if Jayne can be tagged to Serenity, they might realize their mistake.

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ljosalf wrote:
Sunday, February 29, 2004 08:18
I've been considering whether Jayne's identity/existence was "made" on Arial in association with the Tams. From his actions, upto and after the incident it is pretty clear that *Jayne* doesn't consider himself in danger or doesn't care, a la his sarcastic "I've never been in trouble with the law before...". Jayne could be wrong, though.

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He could be lying. It's pretty obvious that Jayne has been making a precarious living as a cutthroat for some time now. In Our Mrs. Reynolds he says, "Once they sent six men after me..." To me that makes it sound there were other times when people were sent after him, and in Jaynestown he had run with Stitch for 6 months before the "Hero" incident occurred and that was several years back, maybe during or just after the war.

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However, I think they might end up doing a search on Jayne now. And if Jayne can be tagged to Serenity, they might realize their mistake.

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The bluehands people may not know how the Feds captured River and Simon. They might have just been contacted with a simple message, "We are holding your fugitives." Remember when the Officer doublecrossed Jayne he said, "You mean my reward."

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ljosalf wrote:

I think the expression on Jayne's face would be priceless if he ended up listed as Simon's henchman. Ah, the cruel irony of it!

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