FIREFLY EPISODE DISCUSSIONS

Initiative/Lab

POSTED BY: GWENHARKER
UPDATED: Monday, August 9, 2004 07:37
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Friday, July 9, 2004 10:58 AM

GWENHARKER


Hey everyone. This is my first post here in this great community, so Howdy.
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I was watching some Season Four Buffy reruns and I'm going to assume that pretty much all of your have seen this season.

I like to think that Joss might tie in the Buffyverse with this Firefly universe. I highly doubt we'll be seeing demons anytime soon, but that's not what I was going for. My question is:

What if the lab that was operating on River was the Initiative? Now, before you say 'you're crazy' lemme explain. In Angel, we saw the U.S. goverment developing this branch in the late 1930's/1940s, so what's to say they didn't expand it into the outer reaches of space? It would make total sense, while watching Maggie Walsh on the show.

Yes, I might be crazy, but I thought it my be a cool idea.

And Kaylee's last name sounds too much like Melaka Fray's last name for comfort.

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Friday, July 9, 2004 11:03 AM

PURPLEBELLY


It would be good to think that Whedon could be allowed to move on as an artist.

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Friday, July 9, 2004 11:06 AM

GWENHARKER


True enough. I just thought it would be kind of cool to see something like it in the series.

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Friday, July 9, 2004 1:49 PM

KARENKAY99


funny you should mention it. we just watched the ep in buffy season one with the invisible girl (out of sight, out of mind) and wondered why they didn't mention it again with the whole initiative story. would have been wacky fun to tie it all together.

P.S. Welcome!!!

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."

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Monday, July 12, 2004 8:34 PM

MER


If the Initiatives are out in space, would Reavers be Vampires? I ask myself these questions. If they doctored River up, what exactly were they getting at achieving? (OT: And why can't the Blue Hands bleed from that darn blue contraction that they used on everybody?)

But maybe it's totally irrevelant to the Buffy 'verse.

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 2:05 PM

GWENHARKER


Yes, you're probably right, but I find it fun to think of ways that it could be tied into the Buffy-verse.

Reavers as Vampires? Ooh, didn't think of that. And yes! Why don't our blue hand guys bleed from that little stick?!

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Saturday, July 17, 2004 6:04 PM

SHINYSEVEN


I was thinking today that Jayne would make an excellent Assistant Vengeance Demon if Inara got mad enough to summon Anyanka.

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Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:11 AM

MER


Yeah and maybe that'll mazke him even more sexier than he already is.

I can't wait to see the movie. It just might answer all our questions...I just hope it won't create more.

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Thursday, July 29, 2004 4:29 PM

DRAKEN


I think the blue handed guys don't bleed from the weapons they're using because it seems like they might be ultra high pitched sound waves concentrated in one single direction.

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Monday, August 2, 2004 4:14 PM

TOMTBA2004


that would be cool, Joss wouldn't do that but it would be cool. Or The initiative really didn't work for the U.S. government but for the Blue Sun corporation..

"lets go to work"

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Monday, August 9, 2004 7:37 AM

BRUISERSMOM


It doesn't mean that Joss isn't creative if he has themes in his work. He's done three series now, so we should start to notice some. For example, shouldn't come as a suprise that he has some evil organization at work in Firefly. He has the mayor in Buffy, who is an evil government official, the initiative in Buffy which is an very ethically questionable government operation and he has Wolfram and Hart in Angel, which is an evil law firm.

Another theme is family, our heroes in all three series create their own family and spend a lot of time with that family, rather than the one into which they were born. The only biological family member we've gotten to know in any of Joss's series is Joyce in Buffy. The rest of the characters' families barely show up, if at all. We Xander's family briefly in Buffy and Fred's family briefly in Angel, Angel's family briefly in Angel and we see Simon's parent's briefly in Firefly and only Fred seems to get along with her parents.

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