FIREFLY EPISODE DISCUSSIONS

THE FIREFLY OSCARS

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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:26 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


I was thinking the other day about the Oscars being applied to Firefly episodes and whether it could work or not. I had to tweak the categories slightly so that Best Picture becomes best episode etc, but on the whole it sort of works. Also I had to add one:
BEST STUNT - as I've always felt this is an inexcusable oversight on the academy's part.

So here we go.

BEST EPISODE Objects in Space
BEST ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE Nathan Fillion
BEST ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLERichard Brooks – Jubal Early
ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE Morena Baccarin
ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE Christina Hendriks - Saffron
ART DIRECTION Ariel
CINEMATOGRAPHY Out Of Gas
COSTUME DESIGN Serenity
DIRECTING Out Of Gas
EDITING Out Of Gas
MAKE-UP War Stories
BEST MUSIC Objects in Space
SOUND EDITING War Stories
SPECIAL EFFECTS Ariel
WRITING Objects In Space
BEST STUNT Serenity – Agent Dobson being flung out of the ship.

There you go. What y'all got?


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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:35 PM

SCBROWNCOAT

Shiny... Lets be bad guys...


BEST EPISODE All of them win - I could no sooner pick a favorite star in the night sky <3
BEST ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE Adam Baldwin
BEST ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE Jonathan Woodward as Tracey in The Message
ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE Summer Glau
ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE Vera ;)
ART DIRECTION Ariel
CINEMATOGRAPHY Out Of Gas
COSTUME DESIGN Jayne's hat in The Message
DIRECTING Out Of Gas
EDITING Out Of Gas
MAKE-UP War Stories
BEST MUSIC Objects in Space
SOUND EDITING War Stories
SPECIAL EFFECTS Ariel
WRITING Objects In Space
BEST STUNT Serenity – River vs. Reavers

and I'm adding one:
BEST QUOTE "Shiny... Let's be bad guys..." ;)

~SC Browncoat~
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:47 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Hey SCBROWNCOAT.

Nice addition with the quote. I like it.

BEST QUOTE for me would be:
Mal: No, they don't. Men of God make everyone feel guilty and judged.

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Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:49 PM

SCBROWNCOAT

Shiny... Lets be bad guys...


Haha! I quote this show/movie way too many times in my "real" life so I just had to add it. :)

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Saturday, September 3, 2011 10:00 PM

SABULUM


Man, it's hard to pick favorites, even with so many categories! This is one of those series that I love everything about. Here's a reasonable approximation, though, complete with commentary:

BEST EPISODE: Serenity—edging out over the competition by ONE VOTE! Runners-up included Out of Gas and Ariel, along with Jaynestown, which tied with Our Mrs. Reynolds for third place...
BEST ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE: Sean Maher as Simon. A close call between him, Nathan Fillion and Adam Baldwin, as all three handle both comedy and drama very convincingly, but it came down to preference. :)
BEST ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE: Jonathan Woodward as Tracey. Tracey really stood out to me, even among the other great guest stars.
ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE: Summer Glau as River. Summer is just a phenomenal actress. (Can you tell that I like Simon and River?)
ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE: Christina Hendriks as Saffron. No contest.
ART DIRECTION (which I had to google): Jaynestown
CINEMATOGRAPHY (which I also had to google): Out of Gas
COSTUME DESIGN: Shindig—no, Heart of Gold—no! Wait. Our Mrs. Reynolds? ...No. No, it's the Train Job, for sure. Yup, definitely Our Shindig Job of Gold. By which I mean Shindig.
DIRECTING: Objects in Space. I don't know how much of what we see is "good directing" and how much is good scriptwriting, editing and/or just great acting, but I do know that Objects In Space had some spot-on characterization.
EDITING: Out Of Gas. The best-constructed episode of the series, in my opinion.
MAKE-UP: War Stories... obviously. For the rippled barbarian dudes.

BEST MUSIC: Jaynestown of course. "The Hero of Canton, the man they call Jayne~!"
SOUND EDITING: Hm, I don't know.
SPECIAL EFFECTS: Ariel? That's the only one I can think of with more CG than usual.
WRITING: Serenity
BEST STUNT: Serenity; the horse falling on Patience. I admire the skill it must've taken to pull that off.

And as for best quote? For the moment, at least? Simon's entire monologue in Serenity. It is one of my very most favorite things in the history of... things. That I like.
"There was a... a school... a, uh, a government-sponsored academy, we had never even heard of it, but it had the most exciting program, the most challenging. We could have sent her anywhere, we had the money, but... she wanted to go. She wanted to learn. She was... fourteen."

~Rawr.

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Sunday, September 4, 2011 12:11 AM

LWAVES


Quote:

Originally posted by THESOMNAMBULIST:
I was thinking the other day about the Oscars being applied to Firefly episodes and whether it could work or not. I had to tweak the categories slightly so that Best Picture becomes best episode etc, but on the whole it sort of works.



Cool idea and it does work well. I guess it could also be expanded to the larger work of the Whedonverse or even the entire work of our BDH's.
But being my picky self shouldn't the actor/actress categories also have an episode listed with them just like movies are listed with them at the Oscars?
Plus I'm counting the movie as an episode.


BEST EPISODE Objects In Space
BEST ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE Nathan Fillion - Out Of Gas
BEST ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE Jonathan Woodward - The Message
ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE Summer Glau - Safe
ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE Christina Hendricks - Our Mrs Reynolds
CINEMATOGRAPHY Out Of Gas
COSTUME DESIGN Shindig
DIRECTING War Stories
EDITING Out Of Gas
MAKE-UP Serenity The Movie
BEST MUSIC The dancing music - Safe
SPECIAL EFFECTS Ariel
WRITING Serenity
BEST STUNT Mal and The Operatives fight on Mr Universe's world - Serenity The Movie.
BEST QUOTE "You found me broken."

Couldn't decide on anything for these categories:
ART DIRECTION
SOUND EDITING



"The greatest invention ever is not the wheel. It's the second wheel." - Rich Hall

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Sunday, September 4, 2011 1:14 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Originally posted by lwaves:

Quote:

But being my picky self shouldn't the actor/actress categories also have an episode listed with them just like movies are listed with them at the Oscars?


Yup. That makes sense Lwaves. I missed that.

Quote:

Plus I'm counting the movie as an episode.


Cool. The more the merrier

Quote:

guess it could also be expanded to the larger work of the Whedonverse or even the entire work of our BDH's.


Oh indubitably!!! Good call Lwaves.


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Sunday, September 4, 2011 1:16 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Originally posted by Sabulum:

Quote:

"There was a... a school... a, uh, a government-sponsored academy, we had never even heard of it, but it had the most exciting program, the most challenging. We could have sent her anywhere, we had the money, but... she wanted to go. She wanted to learn. She was... fourteen."


Woah! Y'know when you see it written like that, you're absolutely right. Those are good words made whole by Sean's brilliant acting. Spot on!


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Saturday, January 28, 2012 12:43 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Best Torture Scene - War Stories, "Are you starting a book club now? Are you gonna start torturing me?"

(paraphrased from memory)

Best Score - The Message, Funeral

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Thursday, February 2, 2012 6:48 AM

EBFIDDLER


BEST EDITING: Even though everyone's inclined to go with Out of Gas, which is beautifully *sequenced* series of scenes-- I'm not sure I'd go with it as best *edited*. I don't have experience with video editing, but I know from experience editing audio that the best edits are the ones that you can't tell are there. Bad edits you can spot (or hear) easily. Good edits are where you can't tell if it was done in a single take or edited all to hell and back. I'm also sure that in video as in music, some kinds of edits are just more challenging to do well than others. Some editing situations are just way more exposed than others, and the errors stand out. To do a fully exposed edit well and smoothly is more challenging than editing in a well-covered situation, and merits the prize.

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Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:02 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Very well put EB. I'd suggest the same for score, and cinematography too. That being that you really shouldn't be too aware of it. Some times it's nice to catch a clever camera move or whistle along to a great theme (Raiders of the Lost Ark) or appreciate a symbolic edit (Eisenstein) but as a way to engage with the films story such distractions should be kept to a minimum.

In, Out Of Gas, the editing is a necessary device to further the story, and while it does draw attention to itself, it does so to propel the intent.... So I can kind of forgive it's 'flashy' cuts.


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