Citizen.....is an idiot. by Vaan

And please do tell me how I did that?

Was it when I defended myself while FMF was calling me a sexiest because I'm from Britain and a man perhaps?

Now I think what you need to get is a night course in reading comprehension Vaan, since you have absolutely no clue what I was talking about, despite my point being fairly obvious, and very much on topic for that thread.

Here’s a clue, I know you need one

, the thread was about whether or not the US and the UK should pull out troops from Iraq now. My response was that we should not, because things would get a lot worse than they are now. I also said that historically in similar circumstances troops have been kept in the contested region for sometime. Now you can tell me how answering the original question put forth in the thread and justifying ones answer is ‘off topic’.

Maybe because little things like facts overload your rather feeble mind? Who knows, it’s a possibility.

Now if you had had some balls you would of sent me a PM, or at least spat your vitriolic (Adjective: Bitterly scathing; caustic: vitriolic criticism: thought you might need it clarified

) filth in a post to me on that thread, rather than trying to plaster it over the front page of this website like some pathetic immature school bully.

Seriously do you do this to people in real life, take a dislike to them because they have an opinion that runs counter to your own and then sneak off and graffiti the bike sheds with "X is a puff" or some other mindless slur?

Or do you only have the bottle to do it in the anonymity of the Internet?

Oh and one last thing, you calling me an idiot, very amusing. If you and I had a battle of wits my friend, I would not even break a sweat

.

Now if you wouldn’t mind, crawl back under that stinking cess pool of a bridge you came out from under you stinking vacuous Troll.

Good day.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 4:16 AM

JADEHAND

Now see, I came over here because I thought Citizen started this thread by the title. I was going to agree

but, this is just wrong. Citizen and I don't agree on everything. We have different understandings and different views on many things. Doesn't make either of us idiots, Just different. Variety..Spice.. all that rot.

Now Vaan, if you'd been around more than a month and bothered to read more than a handfull of Citizen's posts, you wouldn't have your foot so deeply lodged in your mouth. It's ok to disagree, We just prefer the civil approach here.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 4:27 AM

SAFEAT2ND

I agree with Jadehand. I was hoping this would just drop off the boards.

Citizen may be a lot of things, but none of it justifies "name calling" on a public forum. A lot of your percieved conflict may come from the inability of typed words to convey emotion, sarcasm, and such.

I would just ask that you look a little deeper into things before reacting. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It doesn't make them right, but niether does it make them wrong.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 4:28 AM

ARABIKUM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:
We have different understandings and different views on many things. Doesn't make either of us idiots, Just different.

You´re right,JH. But if you read those recent threads carefully, Citizen seems to have a problem with others having different views. In discussions his tone often is extremely agressive and emotional, although his arguments are meant to be rational. That´s a little bit frightening, to be honest, and extremely annoying.

And the Struggle with FMF started by C. calling her "naive". Maybe you´re right and Citizen´s just having a bad time?! Can happen to anybody. In that case I´d stay out of MB´s until I feel better.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 4:52 AM

My comment was a long the lines of "if you think we won't have troops in Iraq in 60 years that's very naive".

Maybe that was too strong, I certainly didn't mean you ARE very naive. I wasn't the only one throwing around insults there, though I'm the only one getting vilefied for it.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 5:45 AM

Dont know or care what the man has said or done. Think ive missed what ever this is about, and Im glad about it. But starting entirely new threads just for name calling is just wrong.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 5:51 AM

NUCLEARDAY

Alright, I tend to steer clear of the Real World Discussion boards, so I don't really have a clear picture of what this is in re: to...

But... just wanted to say lol to this being in the News Headline Discussions. :) Wasn't expecting a "serious" post when I clicked here.

The RW Threads aren't for everybody, and this is common in alot of other boards I've frequented. If it's not your cup of tea, I recommend you do what I do and just stay out of there :) Not trying to flame you there, but well, post a thread attacking somebody when it sounds like something that should be settled in private: expect a few responses...

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 5:59 AM

AZHEA

Name calling has a time and place... namely the school yard!!! How old are you anyway?

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 6:02 AM

SERENITYPUNK

he also cant skateboard for toffee

but he mans a good BBQ and is every bit a good person, if you actually knew the fella

but you dont, therefore have no authority to name call

I on the other hand...........

no wait, im not 12!!!

If i have something to say to a person, I do it to their face, like an adult.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 6:13 AM

STORYMARK

I read the thread concerning the disagreement between Citizen and MsFillion, and while neither of them was exactly polite aboyut it, I don't think Citizen did anything out of line. His argument, which MsFillion kept saying was irrelevant to the topic, seemed to be pertinent to me.

What I think is sad is that someone felt the need to start a new thread to bash Citizen for what he said in another thread. In the general discussion thread, no less, rather than the real world section the argument started in.

I also notice that the person who started the thread just joined, and has only posted one other message beside this one. Seems to me that someone signed up for a new name (or had a friend do it) to misrepresent support for their own position.

Sounds like Troll territory to me.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 6:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by nuclearday:
But... just wanted to say lol to this being in the News Headline Discussions. :) Wasn't expecting a "serious" post when I clicked here.

LOL
yeah...headline material it is not,
even if it were true...
which it isn't.

Citizen is always articulate and interesting...
altho I also avoid the RL threads
(definitely not why I come here)

So second the 'troll country' suggestion!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 6:16 AM

TAYEATRA

Houston.... We have a troll!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 6:17 AM

SASSALICIOUS

Quote:
Originally posted by Vaan:
I've recently seen the "discussion" you and FUTUREMRSFILLION.

Are you going to finish this sentence?

Name-calling is ridiculous in general, and this particular bout of name-calling is off the charts ridiculous because YOU STARTED A THREAD ABOUT IT! HOW CHILDISH CAN A PERSON GET? I daresay you might be PN's younger brother.

I love FMF, but I'm fairly certain she doesn't need you to fight her battles for her. She's a very capable woman. And Citizen? He makes me laugh, a lot and isn't really any more passionate about his beliefs than anyone else in RWED threads. Except maybe PN. And he's certainly less insulting than PN.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 6:35 AM

GWEK

All I know is this... I've stumbled on some of Citizen's threads by accident and they usually make me laugh.

And even if he is an idiot (which he ain't!), he's doing great work for us over at our Virtual Firefly project. Check out the web site he put together at www.stillflying.net (and, while you're there... read a few episodes, too!).

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 6:47 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...

I blame W., the worst President ever, for their discussion turning silly. He's even got natural allies arguing over "It's a tax!" "No, it's a toll!"

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 6:53 AM

AZHEA

Quote:
Originally posted by pizmobeach:
I blame W., the worst President ever, for their discussion turning silly. He's even got natural allies arguing over "It's a tax!" "No, it's a toll!"

Here here!!

You say tax, I say toll... let's call the whole thing off!!!

Now, can we get back to the important things? Like getting our beloved Serenity up in the sky again?

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 7:14 AM

That's just the start of it! On a dark, stormy night in a dark, stormy alleyway in Caracas, Citizen actually mugged me, shot me and killed me. I think he may have used my skin for clothing, but I can't be sure. Also, he once ran over my pet elephant, Stampy. And let's not forget about the embezzlement...

I only come forward now with these allegations, nay, accusations to embolden other of his victims to come forward.

Oh, Citizen, where will your evil schemes lead???

Also, Pizmobeach, great animation!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 12:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Sickdude:
Oh, Citizen, where will your evil schemes lead???

A week next Tuesday.

Just ask PirateNews, I'm also an operative for the oppressive British-Commie-Nazi-Alien-Jews.

I think I'm head of puppy mutilation or some such.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 1:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Just ask PirateNews, I'm also an operative for the oppressive British-Commie-Nazi-Alien-Jews.

Aren't we all, aren't we all...

Quote:
I think I'm head of puppy mutilation or some such.

I'm so jealous!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 1:23 PM

FLORALBUNNY

Behave, gorrammit, or the llamas WILL be sent in.
You have been warned!!!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 1:30 PM

We control the Llamas.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 1:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pizmobeach:

OMG! coolest thing EVER!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 1:35 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Was it when I defended myself while FMF was calling me a sexiest because I'm from Britain and a man perhaps?

I wish someone would call me sexiest.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 1:40 PM

OOKAMIKAWAHARA

Why is it everything comes back to the Holy Grail and the Llamas ??? Seriously though man, your attempt at this thread has failed notice how we support Citizen. We may not always agree with his perspective or someone elses on this forum, but they are part of the Family on this here boat. Learn to live with them or find another place son. Next time voice your opinion so as its not a direct attack at some one okay.
Oh and Citizen I agree w/ your stance on how long its going take for the occupation on Iraq. This is from someone that majored in International Studies at college ie read into it Poly Sci, same diff. As Colin Powell tryed to warn the admin, You break You buy ie You do regime change in Iraq you better be prepared to occupy for the next 40 + years. Why is it no one ever listens to the diplomates ???? Here is one American that is damn sick and tired of the whole current Regime

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 1:53 PM

KELLYOFLUTHIEN

Mal: "Next time you decide to stab me in the back, have the guts to do it to my face."

And if that's too vague for you to understand, Vaan?

Grow up.

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:09 PM

SERENITYPUNK

now see i pointed this out to him on msn

Me: dont you mean sexist
Him: stop correcting me woman!!!!!

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 9:24 PM

BOB30

"Hey! a tussle!"

I'll be in my bunk....

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 11:26 PM

MAI

Yeah, but he's our idiot. So leave him the hell alone!

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Friday, May 5, 2006 1:56 AM

CAUSAL

Quote:
Originally posted by SerenityPunk:
Me: dont you mean sexist
Him: stop correcting me woman!!!!!

*shoots coffee through nose*

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

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Friday, May 5, 2006 3:02 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Are you accusing me of having something to do with this thread?

Do you seriously think I would resort to such an (edit) infantile reaction?

If I had wanted to call Citizen a name, I assure you, I would have done it either in private to him directly, or in full view of everyone here.

I think this thread is entirely uncalled for!

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Friday, May 5, 2006 3:12 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
We control the Llamas.

Bloody chips.

Spikesisall

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Friday, May 5, 2006 3:58 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by mai:
Yeah, but he's our idiot. So leave him the hell alone!

...and every village needs one. Of course, Citizen isn't the one I would nominate...

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Friday, May 5, 2006 4:32 AM

everyone is having WAY too much fun ... except Vaan,
see what you started? And why?
Because Citizen has been w/us a year, sharing, amusing, and participating.

Personally I don't read much in the RL threads because I don't believe anyone is at their best over there.

But in the Blue Sun Room last Christmas Citizen gave us the funniest (Reaver) Christmas Carol:

Quote:
Reaver's Carol by Citizen:

Humans roasting on an open fire,
Jack is chewing on your nose,
Screams of terror echoing from the choir,
And folks dressed up in Human cloths.

Everybody knows a Human and some mistletoe,
Help to make this season bright.
Tiny Reaver tots with their sharpened knives,
Won’t find it hard to eat tonight.

They know that Santa’s on his way;
He’s loaded with lots of toy so he can’t runaway.
And every mother’s gonna run and hide,
When they see bits of reindeer fly!

And so we’re offering this simple phrase,
To Humans from one to ninety-two,
Although its been said many times, many ways,
We want too eat you too

see? what's not to love!

So don't go away Vaan, stay...be friends...
enjoy this wonderful site and get to know your fellow Browncoats as complete people.
Don't jump to conclusions just because you have one arguement (and we won't either).

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Friday, May 5, 2006 5:29 AM

SIMONWHO

Quote:
Originally posted by Vaan:
I've recently seen the "discussion" you and FUTUREMRSFILLION. I noticed that you like to point out trivial facts and stray from the actual topic of conversation. Obviously your teachers in school didn't do a good job because you can't quite comprehend the over all thing that being disccussed. Go get some additional education.

Note: In your reply to this (if you've got the balls) try not to stray from what I ACTUALLY said...unlike last time.

You mean "overall" and "discussed" I presume?

*watches line for additional education get bigger*

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Friday, May 5, 2006 5:49 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by SimonWho:

You mean "overall" and "discussed" I presume?

*watches line for additional education get bigger*

LOL!!!
Good one.

Chrisisall, who can spelle

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Friday, May 5, 2006 5:52 AM

COPILOT

I love you on a new level now darlin

An I carried such a torch

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Friday, May 5, 2006 5:58 AM

AZHEA

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:
what's not to love!

So don't go away Vaan, stay...be friends...
enjoy this wonderful site and get to know your fellow Browncoats as complete people.
Don't jump to conclusions just because you have one arguement (and we won't either).

- Maribeth (embers)

Ditto Babe!!!

I stay out of RL threads for this very same reason.

Can't we all just get along?

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Friday, May 5, 2006 7:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Azhea:
Can't we all just get along?

Can't we all just get a long what?

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Friday, May 5, 2006 8:00 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Sickdude:

Can't we all just get a long what?

Can't we all just get a long sword and start the mayhem?

Slayerisall

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Friday, May 5, 2006 8:02 AM

LOL!

Can't we all just get a long blooper reel, some popcorn, and start the party!

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Friday, May 5, 2006 8:42 AM

RUXTON

Citizen,

Oh. This tar. I see what you mean. No feathers here.

And if any one of you thinks Citizen is the only one worthy of being called to the carpet needlessly on these forums, then you're a butthead and you can bite me.

And I really mean it!
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Friday, May 5, 2006 8:57 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Yeah, I mean how come nobody's called ME on the carpet! I think y'all should come on down to the RW threads and see some fancy mud-wrestling and then vote on the dirtiest low-down rotten deceiver!

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Saturday, May 6, 2006 6:21 PM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Yeah, I mean how come nobody's called ME on the carpet! I think y'all should come on down to the RW threads and see some fancy mud-wrestling and then vote on the dirtiest low-down rotten deceiver!

I accept your challenge! AND, I'd like tp propose that on this coming Monday May 8th, that all usual visitors to the General Discussions section of this board, should go on over to the Real World Event Discussions section and start a tussle. Or just respectfully participate, whichever works for you - think of it as a panty raid on the politically mindful, a tp party on those that think they have a clue as to how to solve this mess we call civilization. Disrupt, interject, add to the thread, whatever, but be vocal, try something new. I also encourage the hardcore RWED posters to come on over to the GD section and be of equal nefariousness. Make us think politically about FF, Rumsfeld = Niska? Tell us why?

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Sunday, May 7, 2006 7:20 PM

RIVER6213

Quote:
Originally posted by Vaan:
I've recently seen the "discussion" you and FUTUREMRSFILLION. I noticed that you like to point out trivial facts and stray from the actual topic of conversation. Obviously your teachers in school didn't do a good job because you can't quite comprehend the over all thing that being disccussed. Go get some additional education.

Note: In your reply to this (if you've got the balls) try not to stray from what I ACTUALLY said...unlike last time.

Perhaps you should shut your stinking hole and go sit in a corner.

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Sunday, May 7, 2006 8:36 PM

SINGATE

Quote:
Originally posted by pizmobeach:
I accept your challenge! AND, I'd like tp propose that on this coming Monday May 8th, that all usual visitors to the General Discussions section of this board, should go on over to the Real World Event Discussions section and start a tussle.

The reason I never bother with RWED is because most discussions revolve around political and religious issues. Arguing about that shit is akin to a hamster running on a wheel.

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 9:12 AM

SAHARA

Quote:
Originally posted by Causal:
Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Was it when I defended myself while FMF was calling me a sexiest because I'm from Britain and a man perhaps?

I wish someone would call me sexiest.

It's the accent. That makes things much sexier.

Blackbird fly into the light of the dark, black night.

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Tuesday, May 9, 2006 10:33 AM

SAHARA

Quote:
Originally posted by singate:

The reason I never bother with RWED is because most discussions revolve around political and religious issues. Arguing about that shit is akin to a hamster running on a wheel.

Hear, hear!

I was taught never to discuss sex, politics or relgion in polite company.
'Polite company' being an assumption and, of course, open to interpretation I guess.

Blackbird fly into the light of the dark, black night.

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