Joss Whedon is ready for a possible movie and a return to television. by Haken

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Joss Whedon is ready for a possible movie and a return to television.

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Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:07 PM

Likes to mess with stuffs.

According to SCI FI Wire, Joss is ready for a possible Buffy movie and a return to television. With a new series, perhaps. Here's an excerpt:

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"Obviously, there's been a regime change at The WB. The fans are interested. I'm interested. I don't think either [Buffy star] Sarah [Michelle Gellar] or [Angel star] David [Boreanaz] would want to do it. But I think there's about 10 other characters I could name who would be totally worthy of movies. And I'm just waiting for somebody to say yea or nay."

To read the complete article, you can read it on SCIFI.COM here:

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2004-08/12/13.00.tv

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Thursday, August 12, 2004 5:34 AM

BLEYDDYN

Ok, I give up. Can anyone find a direct link to this article?

--Bleyddyn

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Thursday, August 12, 2004 6:26 AM

JEWEL

Here ya go:

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2004-08/12/13.00.tv

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Thursday, August 12, 2004 7:01 AM

CORNCOBB

Yay! this is great news. I'm hoping for a Spike movie.

"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."

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Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:04 AM

NESS

I actually think it's good that Sarah and David don't want to reprise their characters. Like Joss says, there are a bunch of other characters that deserve some time in the spot light. Personally, I would love to see a tv movie about Giles and Andrew trying to rebuild the Council.

And Joss should return to television. This is going to be the first tv season in eight years without a Joss Whedon show on the air.

I'm scared. There's nothing good left to watch.

"Sir, I think you have a problem with your brain being missing." - Zoe

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Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:17 AM

SEVENPERCENT

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Personally, I would love to see a tv movie about Giles and Andrew trying to rebuild the Council.

I think that's an awesome idea, actually- For a series even that would be pretty cool- If they keep a few Scoobies around as help (Xander would make a really good addition as well) I could see that taking off-

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He looked bigger when I couldn't see him.

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Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:22 AM

SPOOKYJESUS

I was going to post the same link under

"DID FIREFLY SCARE JOSS AWAY FROM TELEVISION?"

See where he says -

"I had some ideas, I'm sort of trying to look at the marketplace and say, 'What kind of idea will actually go?' Because I'm not really interested in making things that don't. … So I'm not sure if what I have is what the world wants right now."

That's a little........scary? It's a little something anyway!

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Thursday, August 12, 2004 9:14 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

I saw "return to television" and my heart began racing......then I saw Buffy. Heart racing now? Not so much.

I really liked Buffy and would definitely watch another Joss series on TV. I have one name for Joss to build a series around: SPIKE!

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Thursday, August 12, 2004 11:57 AM

SPOOKYJESUS

I thought Spike worked better in a supporting role - he lost alot of strenght when he became a regular of Buffy for me - the mystery and the reason's why I really loved him were lost -

He turned from badass=badass to badass=Cordelia and I only loved him about that much.

I'd love to see something original from Joss - with a high level of involment on his part - akin to his involment on Firefly - deligation is a dirty work in a creative medium (collaberation is a different story altogether but who the hell can keep up with Joss?).

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Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:49 PM

KARENKAY99

i will watch anything that joss is connected to. i loved buffy & angel, am totally obsessed with firefly. i'm ready for the next dose. come on joss, i'm ready!!

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."

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Thursday, August 12, 2004 2:08 PM

CORNCOBB

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I have one name for Joss to build a series around: SPIKE!

Couldn't agree more, browncoat1

"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."

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Thursday, August 12, 2004 9:54 PM

SERGEANTX

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"I had some ideas, I'm sort of trying to look at the marketplace and say, 'What kind of idea will actually go?' Because I'm not really interested in making things that don't. … So I'm not sure if what I have is what the world wants right now."

This kind of stuff just depresses the hell out of me. Why is our culture dominated by crap? Why do we put up with it? I just want to scream from the rooftops to wake people up, to try and get them to put down the beer, stop watching the goddamned commercials and pay attention to what they're being fed. Its not just some fans of a canceled show who are being cheated. Our entire culture is being dumbed down and drugged up by those who seek power over us. We're falling asleep in front of our televisions and letting our souls get sucked away while we snooze.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Friday, August 13, 2004 12:18 AM

GROUNDED

If he ever manages to revive the Buffyverse, any new show really needs to only have one or two Buffy/Angel characters (unless of course it was a direct continuation of Angel). I lot of people seem to think they should just get as many existing characters together as possible but I think that would be a huge mistake.

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Friday, August 13, 2004 2:58 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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"I had some ideas, I'm sort of trying to look at the marketplace and say, 'What kind of idea will actually go?' Because I'm not really interested in making things that don't. … So I'm not sure if what I have is what the world wants right now."
This kind of stuff just depresses the hell out of me. Why is our culture dominated by crap? Why do we put up with it? I just want to scream from the rooftops to wake people up, to try and get them to put down the beer, stop watching the goddamned commercials and pay attention to what they're being fed. Its not just some fans of a canceled show who are being cheated. Our entire culture is being dumbed down and drugged up by those who seek power over us. We're falling asleep in front of our televisions and letting our souls get sucked away while we snooze.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

Very passionately & eloquently put Sarge. I could not have said it better myself.

I have gotten to the point where I watch very little TV. The preponderance of reality shows on the air now is overwhelming. I do not think there is a single channel on cable (w/ perhaps the exception of the Cartoon Network) that doesn't have at least one reality show in its lineup.

Many of the shows that are not reality are mere carbon copies of programs that have gone before them. The premise of many shows has been done so many times that it is numbing to even try to sit through 10 minutes of such a program.

Books have become my main source for entertainment of late. Quality television seems to be all but forgotten on television in the networks search for ratings. I still watch 2 or 3 shows on a regular basis, but I imagine those too will soon be gone as well.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Tuesday, August 17, 2004 7:00 AM

SONIC

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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:

Very passionately & eloquently put Sarge. I could not have said it better myself.

I have gotten to the point where I watch very little TV. The preponderance of reality shows on the air now is overwhelming. I do not think there is a single channel on cable (w/ perhaps the exception of the Cartoon Network) that doesn't have at least one reality show in its lineup.

Many of the shows that are not reality are mere carbon copies of programs that have gone before them. The premise of many shows has been done so many times that it is numbing to even try to sit through 10 minutes of such a program.

Books have become my main source for entertainment of late. Quality television seems to be all but forgotten on television in the networks search for ratings. I still watch 2 or 3 shows on a regular basis, but I imagine those too will soon be gone as well.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

I feel that this is a symptom that TV is broken, when you look at it. We now have the capacity for Video On Demand, but we are still trying to get cable a la carte. The TV industry is in the same boat as the music industry, their business model is quickly becoming outdated. With a show like Firefly, I really would not mind paying for episodes directly, so long as there were reduced/eliminated ads and were not on a timeslot setup (Video On Demand). A system like this could be made to work, but the current system will try to stop it (see: the music industry). Eventually, the industry will piss off enough fans for the fans to reinvent the industry, I hope.

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Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:41 AM

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Why is our culture dominated by crap?

Part of it is that the pilot for Firefly cost $12Million, & each subsequent ep $2Million -- the DVD cost almost as much as the movie. Fox wanted to make a profit on it. Their business is mostly selling commercial time. Commercial rates vary but, each rate guarantees certain audience numbers, as in money-back guarantee. According to industry-accepted measurements, nobody was watching Firefly. Fox had to give back a lot of that commercial fee.

On the other side of the coin, reality shows are cheap to produce. And at the moment, they seem to attract a larger audience.

So, to summarize, most people want to watch crap on TV.

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Why do we put up with it?

We didn't. We cryed, stamped our feet, and held our collective breath 'til our hands turned blue. Oh, and we're getting a BDM.

Keep the Shiny Side Up

Wutzon: The Word, "I'll Fly Away", eponymous

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Tuesday, August 17, 2004 1:23 PM

SERGEANTX

YT,

I don't wish to be argumentative because I agree with most of what you said. Crap sells because that's what people tune in for. Sad but true.

I do think, however, that the execs lately are making a mistake by making all their decisions based on a shows ability to attract viewers rapidly out of the gate rather than its ability to establish a reliable wide-ranging audience. They do the same thing with movies, pronouncing verdicts on a movie's success based on the first week's ticket sales. All they're really looking at is the success of the promotional campaign, and we know how weak and misguided that was in Firefly's case.

I also must disagree with your assertion that we, as a group haven't "put up with it". First I should first clarify that I meant 'we' as a nation of viewers, not our smallish community of fans. And in that sense 'we' most certainly have put up with an endless tide of offensive garbage.

Most television viewers will agree that the vast majority of television is worthless but they continue to watch. That's what I have a hard time understanding. I have my own theories about commercialism and indoctrination but that's perhaps better saved for another thread.

But I would be curious to know: How many of us here are still watching television? How often? How many are still watching Fox? I'm not condemning anyone, but I do believe that they won't start airing quality television until we flat out refuse to tune in.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Tuesday, August 17, 2004 6:53 PM

CALDEEN

I have not sat down and watched broadcast/cable TV in a long time. 6 months atleast. Have EverQuest and DVDs for entertainment and my business to keep me busy. Right now I am wishing someone would make an offer: "If you will give up TV for a year we will pay you one million dollars." Seem to remember something like that in TV guide several years ago. Would have to make it just broadcast or cable TV though. No way would I give up DVDs

I am not worried about the bullet with my name on it. Just the thousands marked "Occupant".

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Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:45 PM

POTHER

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On the other side of the coin, reality shows are cheap to produce. And at the moment, they seem to attract a larger audience.

So, to summarize, most people want to watch crap on TV.

You got me wondering why I like reality shows such as Survivor and Amazing Race. Heck, I was even watching Big Brother here for a few minutes tonight.

I think I like watching the reality shows because I don't know or can't figure out what's going to happen next, and because I can't pigeonhole the characters to stereotypes.

Which if the executives thought about it is what Joss Whedon is very good at creating in the way of stories; those with different characters and stories that are uncertain.

Then again, maybe I like to watch reality just to see whats going to happen to the characters, or to one or two of them? Maybe this is why I got suckered onto General Hospital for a while after I was made to watch it for a class project long ago?

Soap Operas, Reality Shows... both cheap to make.

When it gets down to it, it is just about $$$ isn't it?

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Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:07 PM

the movie is not the Series. Only the facts have been changed, to irritate the innocent; the names of the actors and characters remain the same

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
But I would be curious to know: How many of us here are still watching television? How often?

For the past 13 years, I've lived in a broadcast shadow, and I choose not to have cable. I watch TV shows on DVD (~100 discs). A bonus, for me, is that I got to see Firefly in the proper order.

Keep the Shiny Side Up

Wutzon: Robert Randolph & the Family Band, "Going In the Right Direction", from "Unclassified"

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Wednesday, August 18, 2004 5:56 AM

SONIC

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Originally posted by SergeantX:

But I would be curious to know: How many of us here are still watching television? How often? How many are still watching Fox? I'm not condemning anyone, but I do believe that they won't start airing quality television until we flat out refuse to tune in.

I stopped watching TV about five years ago, and really haven't looked back. I get all the shows that I want on DVD, and I avoid most of the pitfalls of TV at the same time. My only qualm is that I feel that I am not supporting shows like Firefly when they come out, which contributes to them getting canceled, which is partially why I said that TV is a broken system earlier.

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Monday, September 13, 2004 10:54 AM

SHINYLETO

About Joss and movies; someone told me that he'll be directing X-men 3 (Has anyone else heard this?)

And about TV; I always seem to find the best shows after they've been cancelled or just as they're about to be (Family Guy and Futurama spring to mind...) so there's nothing I really watch regularly.

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