The Grudge by Jello

ya, i enjoyed the sarah parts cause sarah rocks, and jason behr was also very cute:) but that movie pretty much sucked :(

~lissa, spwhore

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:49 AM

I dunno, I thought Sarah was pretty lame in it as well. Not that she had much to work with. Just a bunch of obvious set-ups for something/someone to go Boo!

It was kind of funny though, cause afterwards my girlfriend was actually trying to make sense of the plot and I couldn't care enough to even work through it. It's just hard to take horror seriously when the characters are nothing more than props.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 24, 2004 12:10 PM

ya, there really wasn't anything to work with. i mean, who makes a horror movie with one scare repeated over and over with various characters you don't actually care that much about? it's sad, cause it had a good cast sarah, jason, and i'm a clea duvall fan from way back with the faculty. dude, i wrote her a letter in 7th grade and she totally handwrote me a response! too bad i wasnt a buffy fan at that point, since she played marcie in out of mind, out if sight...

~lissa, spwhore

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 24, 2004 1:43 PM

BIKISDAD

I haven't seen the movie yet, and after just watching the Ebert and Roeper review, I'm not going to waste the money. They BOTH said that, while they stayed until the end because it's their job, they both wanted to leave the theatre before the end of film. It was that bad.

I think that, after the reviews for this movie, Sarah might be wise to re-examine her position on not doing Buffy tv movies.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 24, 2004 1:59 PM

BADGERSHAT

Sucked.
Plot sucked.
SMG sucked.
Scares sucked.
Directing sucked.
The stuff that was supposed to scare me made me bust out laughing (anyone thinking that weird groaning/clicking sound on the phone sounded more like a crappy giger counter than a scary "help I've been murdered" sound?)

I spent $9.50 on that garbage...

--Jefé The Hat

***************************
--Don't bother trying to predict, figure out, second guess, criticize, or suggest anything that comes from the mind of Joss Whedon, for you shall usually be wrong, and shall find out the Truth and Purpose in due time.
(This is the Truth of Whedoning)
"I like smackin 'em"--Jayne

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 24, 2004 2:00 PM

RANGRBOB

>>"i mean, who makes a horror movie with one scare repeated over and over with various characters you don't actually care that much about?"<<

Any zombie movie ever made. or was that sarcasim.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 24, 2004 5:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rangrbob:
>>"i mean, who makes a horror movie with one scare repeated over and over with various characters you don't actually care that much about?"<<

Any zombie movie ever made. or was that sarcasim.

hehe, ya, now that i think about it, that's like every crappy horror movie ever lol. but still, this was kinda supposed to be a quality movie,or at least i thought it was...

~lissa, spwhore

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 24, 2004 5:43 PM

JAHZARA

Haven't seen it. As yet, its not one of my missions in life to do so.

Hilarious comments. I decided to wait for the reviews when I heard the director spoke NO ENGLISH. It's the little things you can pick up on.

And SMG, whose really a bright girl, didn't find that out until she got there to begin filming. That's just...well, everyone has their moments.

Sorry about everybody's money.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 24, 2004 6:12 PM

what really makes me sad is that i could have seen garden state for a third time instead:(

if you haven't seen garden state yet, see it now!

~lissa, spwhore

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, October 25, 2004 4:52 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

I was completely disappointed in this movie. I was tempted twice to get up and walk out, but after all the hype and SMG, I figured it just had to get better. Right? Wrong.

Nothing about this movie grabbed me. The direction was flat. The plot was lame. The acting was pretty mediocre at best. The scares were even pretty generic.

I would highly suggest saving your money and not see this film. Instead, save it and go see Serenity and extra time.

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Meet Up:
http://firefly.meetup.com/9/boards/

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, October 25, 2004 5:40 AM

WYDRAZ

Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
... I would highly suggest saving your money and not see this film. Instead, save it and go see Serenity and extra time.

If I did that for every crappy movie I'm not seein' till april... I'll be able to see Serenity -- what, like fifty times?

Oh, and play Strange Adventures in Infinite Space. http://digital-eel.com/sais

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, October 25, 2004 6:36 AM

BIKISDAD

I was just amazed to see that The Grudge was #1 at the box office over the weekend - way ahead of #2. I'll bet, after the word-of-mouth gets around on this film, that there's a big drop-off by next weekend.

I am saving my money for Serenity and planning on seeing it about 20 times over the first two weeks.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, October 25, 2004 4:33 PM

See, this is what I don't get. Why do people go see movies based purely on the advertising campaign? For that matter why do the media report on opening weekend like it is the be-all-end-all in determining the success or failure of a movie?

BAAAA!

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, October 25, 2004 5:13 PM

SUCCATASH

I've also wondered about the big Box Office Opening Weekend.

I haven't seen this movie, and I don't think I will, but.... It cost only $10 million to make and in the first 3 days it made $40 million.

That's a huge business success. I feel bad for the paying customers like Sarge who got ripped off. But damn! I hope Serenity makes that much opening weekend.

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, October 25, 2004 5:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Succatash:

... I feel bad for the paying customers like Sarge who got ripped off. But damn! I hope Serenity makes that much opening weekend...

Don't feel too bad. It wasn't my money. I had a pretty good idea what it would be like.

I almost hope they just don't promote Serenity at all. But if I had my druthers it'd just be me and a few friends in the theater.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, October 25, 2004 7:13 PM

feel bad for me! i'm just a poor college student! i can't afford crappy movies! i could have gotten 3 twelve packs of pepsi for what i spent on that movie

(yay cvs!)

~lissa, spwhore

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Thursday, October 28, 2004 9:56 AM

MRSKBORG

I'm kinda glad I found this thread I was considering going to see this, purely because SMG was in it. After reading this I think I'll just wait and save me money for Serenity. At this rate I'll be able to see it on more thatn a few occasions since most of what Ive seen this year so far has been dross.....give up now save the pennies...except for House of the Flying Daggers I will go to see that.

"This movie may be a beautiful butterfly, but I loved that damn caterpillar." Joss Whedon.

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by lissa:
feel bad for me! i'm just a poor college student! i can't afford crappy movies! i could have gotten 3 twelve packs of pepsi for what i spent on that movie (yay cvs!)

~lissa, spwhore

Don't they show cheap movies on Campus anyways? If not, your AS really needs help.

Like Fireflyfans.net?
Haken needs a new development system. Donate.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=5&t=3283

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:23 PM

The original Japanese version is much much better as far as scare and suspense go. Why is Hollywood doing these cheap ripoff remakes? They just plug some random US actor into a Japanese movie and hope that it will work?

Like Fireflyfans.net?
Haken needs a new development system. Donate.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=5&t=3283

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:01 PM

SLAYER730

Hmmm...House of Flying Daggers, huh? I'm wary because I hated Crouching Tiger, Hidden Boredom. I did, however, like Hero...so I guess it's a crap shoot either way.

And funny that you mention how the original was scarier, Jasonzzz, because this one was done by the exact same director. Now I love Buffy as much as the next fan, but I think the biggest drawback of The Grudge was SMG. A cardboard cutout would've been better as Karen.

***Never judge a book by its movie***

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jasonzzz:

The original Japanese version is much much better as far as scare and suspense go. Why is Hollywood doing these cheap ripoff remakes? They just plug some random US actor into a Japanese movie and hope that it will work?

well it was the same director, so one would assume he could make a quality movie...but apparently not.

they do show cheap movies on campus, just not this movie:)

~lissa, spwhore

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by slayer730:
Hmmm...House of Flying Daggers, huh? I'm wary because I hated Crouching Tiger, Hidden Boredom. I did, however, like Hero...so I guess it's a crap shoot either way.

And funny that you mention how the original was scarier, Jasonzzz, because this one was done by the exact same director. Now I love Buffy as much as the next fan, but I think the biggest drawback of The Grudge was SMG. A cardboard cutout would've been better as Karen.

***Never judge a book by its movie***

Well, I can not agree with you more on SMG and sucky performances... But the true horror here is that somehow even with the very same original Director, they couldn't stop the Hollywood machine from stripping down and oversimplify a perfectly good movie script into something that is spoonfeedable to American teenage horror "I know what you did last summer" cum "Final Destination" idiotic flicks.

BTW, brace yourselves for Ring 2 (The atrocity continues). Ugh!

Like Fireflyfans.net?
Haken needs a new development system. Donate.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=5&t=3283

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
Well, I can not agree with you more on SMG and sucky performances... But the true horror here is that somehow even with the very same original Director, they couldn't stop the Hollywood machine from stripping down and oversimplify a perfectly good movie script into something that is spoonfeedable to American teenage horror "I know what you did last summer" cum "Final Destination" idiotic flicks.

dude, i know what you did last summer was SO much better than the grudge! final destination...i didn't see it, but you're probably right about it being crap.

~lissa, spwhore

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Friday, October 29, 2004 9:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ShadowVessel:
I know I'm gettin' flamed for this, but screw it.

You're all crazy. Sorry, that's how I feel. The chill bump factor was at an all time high because the same creepy-ass scares were repeated. I thought it was better than The Exorcist: The Beginning. I even thought it was better than The Ring. My logic is that you didn't have to wait for the entire course of the movie for the one scary moment. And come on, you want to argue PLOT with a horror movie? It's all about the scare, hence SCARY MOVIE. When I watch one I'm not paying attention to the dramatic depth of the actors or actresses involved. And you can't argue Buffy or Angel with me because those aren't "horror" as much as they are "drama set in a horror setting". Sorry. Light me.

Thank you everybody, good night!

(Gorramn Double Post)
"I'll be in my bunk."

I think you have it there...

You've essentially identified the difference between a real horror movie and a "I know what you did last summer" scare flick. A scare flick is pretty much a string of "cat jumping out from behind door", "vase falling off the table", "door thumping", "footfalls from down the hall" scenes spliced together. When you take away all expectations to be entertained with a plot, story line and a sprinkle of believable characters and decent acting, you can pretty much enjoy anything. I just like to save my $11.50 and popcorn money for something decent and wait til this sort of thing appear in the bargain bin for my "cheap" thrills.

Like Fireflyfans.net?
Haken needs a new development system. Donate.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=5&t=3283

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, October 30, 2004 11:13 AM

You're right. I just try and make a point to see all horror movies in the movie theater because it's the only place it has any "umph". Once I get it home on the TV, even with good sound and all, the thrill is gone. Something about the big screen, the awesome surround sound, the big room, the dark, and probably mostly the people around you. Usually if I jump in a movie at all it's because of somebody elses scream or jump or whatever, then everybody has a good laugh about it. To me, that's the experience of the movie theater.

Thanks for not being too harsh on me.

(Gorramn Double Post)

"I'll be in my bunk."

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, October 30, 2004 11:13 AM

"I'll be in my bunk."

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Saturday, October 30, 2004 6:04 PM

CAPNRAHN

I want my money back ... the scares were repeated so often it lost all 'scariness'

Massive dissapointment - should'a tried "The Forgotten" instead ...

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:57 PM

CREVANREAVER

Quote:
Originally posted by CapnRahn:
I want my money back ... the scares were repeated so often it lost all 'scariness'

Massive dissapointment - should'a tried "The Forgotten" instead ...

I have yet to see the film, but I have to ask you guys who are bad-mouthing the movie, why it has clearly been a hit if its as bad as you claim?

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 31, 2004 4:02 PM

CAPNRAHN

Quote:
Originally posted by CrevanReaver
I have yet to see the film, but I have to ask you guys who are bad-mouthing the movie, why it has clearly been a hit if its as bad as you claim?

Folks going to Sarah Michelle Geller films like brainless sheep?

48.9 million is not a topper anymore. It made 9/10s {39.1 millon} of it on the opening day. If a movie has a huge fall off of sales after the opening day/weekend - it is considered a failure. I doubt it will hold its #1 status much longer. There is just nothing really good out there.

Everybody that I passed when the movie was over were bashing it left and right. Making fun of the 'sacry' sound that was repeated too much, trying to figger wht the hell the editor was thinking - its transitions between timeframes was widgy at best.

Nuff fer now

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Sunday, October 31, 2004 4:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CrevanReaver:
Quote:
Originally posted by CapnRahn:
I want my money back ... the scares were repeated so often it lost all 'scariness'

Massive dissapointment - should'a tried "The Forgotten" instead ...

I have yet to see the film, but I have to ask you guys who are bad-mouthing the movie, why it has clearly been a hit if its as bad as you claim?

I'd rather not say. The truth is sometimes depressing.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, November 1, 2004 9:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CapnRahn:
I want my money back ... the scares were repeated so often it lost all 'scariness'

Massive dissapointment - should'a tried "The Forgotten" instead ...

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

Oh, dude. If you didn't like The Grudge you'll hate The Forgotten. I saw it and it was cool to a point (maybe only one point), but utterly disappointing. Here's the lowdown if you dare to penetrate the spoiler cloak:

Select to view spoiler:

Aliens. It was aliens. The whole freakin' mystery twist was about them doing experiments on us. Like I said, cool to a point but utterly disappointing. Once you see it you'll understand.

(Gorramn Double Post)

"I'll be in my bunk."

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, November 1, 2004 9:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CapnRahn:
I want my money back ... the scares were repeated so often it lost all 'scariness'

Massive dissapointment - should'a tried "The Forgotten" instead ...

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

Select to view spoiler:

Aliens. It was aliens. The whole freakin' mystery twist was about them doing experiments on us. Like I said, cool to a point but utterly disappointing. Once you see it you'll understand.

(Gorramn Double Post)

"I'll be in my bunk."

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, November 1, 2004 11:05 AM

ARAWAEN

Quote:
Originally posted by CapnRahn:
I want my money back ... the scares were repeated so often it lost all 'scariness'

Massive dissapointment - should'a tried "The Forgotten" instead ...

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

I didn't mind the Grudge, but the Forgotten was horrid. The Grudge had no plot just a monster, the Forgotten had a lame

ss plot.

Knowledge is sorrow; they who know the most
Must mourn the deepest o'er the fatal truth,
The Tree of Knowledge is not that of Life.
-- Byron

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, November 1, 2004 11:17 AM

ARAWAEN

Quote:
Originally posted by ShadowVessel:
I know I'm gettin' flamed for this, but screw it.

You're all crazy. Sorry, that's how I feel. The chill bump factor was at an all time high because the same creepy-ass scares were repeated. I thought it was better than The Exorcist: The Beginning. I even thought it was better than The Ring. My logic is that you didn't have to wait for the entire course of the movie for the one scary moment. And come on, you want to argue PLOT with a horror movie? It's all about the scare, hence SCARY MOVIE. When I watch one I'm not paying attention to the dramatic depth of the actors or actresses involved. And you can't argue Buffy or Angel with me because those aren't "horror" as much as they are "drama set in a horror setting". Sorry. Light me.

Thank you everybody, good night!

(Gorramn Double Post)
"I'll be in my bunk."

I have to agree with you. I thought the Grudge was pretty scary (though I do have a thing against dead things, especially dead things that move, so it targetted my weakness). The plot was very simple, a curse on a house affects all who enter it, end of story.

While not as good as say, 'The Changeling' or 'Stir of Echoes' it was way better than any Jason, Freddy, Michael or Leatherface movie.

I wish some of the critics here would put forward 'good' horror movies for people to use as a reference point.

Knowledge is sorrow; they who know the most
Must mourn the deepest o'er the fatal truth,
The Tree of Knowledge is not that of Life.
-- Byron

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, November 1, 2004 11:18 AM

CREVANREAVER

Quote:
Originally posted by CapnRahn:
If a movie has a huge fall off of sales after the opening day/weekend - it is considered a failure.

With all due respect, that's wrong. A movie is considered a failure if it doesn't make a profit, and The Grudge has made a profit. So far it has made 71.3 million dollars, yet it only cost 10 million to make.

And a -42.8% fall off from the opening weekend is rather normal.

NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, November 1, 2004 6:01 PM

And The Grudge has just come in as #1 for the second week in a row.

(Gorramn Double Post)

"I'll be in my bunk."

NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | TOP | HOME

Monday, November 1, 2004 6:01 PM