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What Good Sci-Fi am I missing?

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Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:23 AM

CALHOUN


I have all the Fireflys, Star Trek TNG, DS9, Voyager, Space Above and Beyond, Andromeda and Stargate.

What other Sci-Fi should I look out for? I am in need of a good Sci-Fi fix.


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Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:24 AM

CALHOUN


I have all the Enterprises too..

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Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:48 AM

OUTLANDER


Keep an eye out for the new series’ of Battlestar Galactica and Lost in Space which are about to go in to production. For older series’, try Babylon 5 and Farscape. And really old series’, try the original Battlestar Galactica and Space 1999. These are all space based favorites of mine.

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Tuesday, January 20, 2004 11:35 PM

SQUEE


Either of you heard of Earth Final Conflict? I was into it for a while, its kinda addicting in some parts and then other episodes get weird. Never decided whether or not is was good.

When you can't run, you crawl, and when you can't crawl, you find someone to carry you.

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Wednesday, January 21, 2004 7:14 AM

LJC


Okay, some of these are more magical realism than sci-fi, but I figure you mean all speculative fiction...

Jake 2.0
Spooks (aka MI-5)
Odyssey 5
FarScape
Strange Luck
vr.5
Now & Again
Max Headroom
GvsE
Dead Like Me
Invisible Man
Dune & Children of Dune mini-series
Taken
Harsh Realm
Nowhere Man
Brisco County Jr.
Due South
Forever Knight
Nikita
Three


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Wednesday, January 21, 2004 7:31 AM

HERO


How can you leave out Dr. Who? TV's longest running sci fi serial. Go buy old Dr. Who episodes off ebay or amazon.com. That should hold you over till the new series kicks off on the BBC next year.

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Wednesday, January 21, 2004 7:43 AM

SAINT JAYNE


I never hear anyone mention Earth: Final Conflict. Was that unpopular?

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Wednesday, January 21, 2004 8:29 AM

MUDDER


Farscape is another very good sci-fi.

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Thursday, January 22, 2004 12:44 PM

SPIKEANDJEZEBEL


One of my favorite science fiction series is Blake's 7, a BBC show that ran from 1978-1981. I recommend it to anyone who likes Firefly, as the two have a lot in common. All the episodes are available on VHS, and it is rumored to be released on dvd sometime this year.

There is even a line in "The Train Job" which may even be an homage to Blake's 7 - when Jayne shoots the guy's leg and Mal says "Nice shot," and Jayne replies "I was aiming for his head." Blake and Avon have the exact same exchange in the episode "Orac" of B7. (Joss has said in the past that he watched B7 when he went to school in England.)

Or, it could just be a funny coincidence.


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Thursday, January 22, 2004 12:57 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


Quote:



Odyssey 5
FarScape
GvsE
Dead Like Me
Invisible Man
Harsh Realm
Due South

Throw in Babylon 5 and Crusade and I would likely not watch anything else...


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Some take the high road. Some take the low road.
And some just go screaming down the highway, dropping flaming bits of wreckage.



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Thursday, January 22, 2004 12:58 PM

GINOBIFFARONI


Quote:



Odyssey 5
FarScape
GvsE
Dead Like Me
Invisible Man
Harsh Realm
Due South

Throw in Babylon 5 and Crusade and I would likely not watch anything else...


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Some take the high road. Some take the low road.
And some just go screaming down the highway, dropping flaming bits of wreckage.



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Thursday, January 22, 2004 2:53 PM

JASONZZZ



I didn't see X-Files on there anywhere...

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Thursday, January 22, 2004 4:48 PM

SAINT JAYNE


Let me see, what's on my DVD shelf...

  • Dark Angel, first season

  • Alias, all seasons are good

  • Dr Who, Tom Baker is my fav

  • Did anybody see Roar? More fantasy, that.


Yeah, that's it.

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Saturday, January 24, 2004 9:17 AM

BISHOPJ


back about ten years , same time ds9 came out, there was a short lived series called"space rangers"...on fox i think. ...don't know how many they aired, not many, but they had style and charm, rough,crude very anti star trek slickness.

bishopj

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Sunday, January 25, 2004 12:27 PM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES


Quote:

Originally posted by bishopj:
back about ten years , same time ds9 came out, there was a short lived series called"space rangers"...on fox i think. ...don't know how many they aired, not many, but they had style and charm, rough,crude very anti star trek slickness.
bishopj



Space Rangers - ran for just about 8 or 9 episodes. Written (or produced, I forget - or at least I try) by the guy who did Robin Hood:Prince of Thieves (Pen Densham?)

Appalling effects, cliched stories and poor acting - all forgiven because the main actor was Jeff Cake (I think there was a different spelling, but I'm ignoring it). Had Claudia Christian in one episode. Still have a video of a few of the episodes I think.



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Monday, January 26, 2004 12:44 PM

LJC


"Space Rangers" was on CBS I believe mid-season 1993, and CBS aired the pilot last, if I recall correctly. Because they were geniuses. And unfortunately, like "Probin Hood: Prince of Thieves" (which was ripped off from Kip Carpenter's 1983 TV series 'Robin of Sherwood' right down to the Saracen and Will Scarlet being a psycho--and I believe that Kip used and won, come to think of it.), "Space Rangers" was pretty much ripped off almost directly from both "Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers" and "Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future."

Ah, Pen Densham. How I do love your complete and utterlack of an original concept EVER in your entire television & film career.

(I actually watched "Space Rangers" for Majorie Monahanan, because I'd loved her QL guest-spot... And I remember wanting to rip PD's arm off and beat him to death with it.)

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And some just go screaming down the highway, dropping flaming bits of wreckage.

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Sunday, February 1, 2004 5:08 PM

LINDLEY


I can't believe only one person has mentioned Babylon 5. If you like DS9, you'll probably like B5 as well-----they've got some superficial similarities.

Babylon 5 is, quite simply, the most epic television show ever made.

The first season is kind of blah, but after that, it really picks up, and redefines the genre.

I think B5, FF, and Stargate are my favorite shows at the moment.......

ALSO, check out the new series Joan of Arcadia. Its not really scifi per se, but its very well written---the dialog is almost Whedon-esque. CBS, Fridays at 8. (Hey...that sounds...familiar....)

Aditionally, although its not scifi by any stretch of the imagination, anyone who hasn't seen 24-----get season 1 on DVD. I know its a Fox show, but it really is worth it. (The reason I say DVD is, 24 is the only show I know which is more arc-heavy than Babylon 5.)

Regarding Earth: Final Conflict-----season 1 was excellent. Seasons 2-4 weren't quite as good, but still served for some passable entertainment. Season 5 is an abomination, don't watch it.

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 3:42 AM

MAJSON


Quote:

Originally posted by Lindley:
I can't believe only one person has mentioned Babylon 5. If you like DS9, you'll probably like B5 as well-----they've got some superficial similarities.

Babylon 5 is, quite simply, the most epic television show ever made.

The first season is kind of blah, but after that, it really picks up, and redefines the genre.

I think B5, FF, and Stargate are my favorite shows at the moment.......

ALSO, check out the new series Joan of Arcadia. Its not really scifi per se, but its very well written---the dialog is almost Whedon-esque. CBS, Fridays at 8. (Hey...that sounds...familiar....)

Aditionally, although its not scifi by any stretch of the imagination, anyone who hasn't seen 24-----get season 1 on DVD. I know its a Fox show, but it really is worth it. (The reason I say DVD is, 24 is the only show I know which is more arc-heavy than Babylon 5.)

Regarding Earth: Final Conflict-----season 1 was excellent. Seasons 2-4 weren't quite as good, but still served for some passable entertainment. Season 5 is an abomination, don't watch it.



oh lindley, i thought you'd be found on this forum. hehe

Has anyone not mentioned quantum leap? good god people! good acting, nice stories, ok it was not arc relatedand i usually love stuff with arcs it was a good feel good show with a lot of fun :)

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 4:33 AM

MALSDOXY

I know what did this...


Anyone remember 'EARTH 2'? Linda Farentino, Antonio Sabato, Jr, Rebecca Gayheart ( the originally cast INARA ! ) and others...ran for almost 2 seasons on NBC

Haven't you killed me enough for one day ?

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Tuesday, February 3, 2004 4:34 AM

MALSDOXY

I know what did this...


Anyone remember 'EARTH 2'? Linda Farentino, Antonio Sabato, Jr, Rebecca Gayheart ( the originally cast INARA ! ) and others...ran for almost 2 seasons on NBC

Haven't you killed me enough for one day ?

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Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:09 PM

LINDLEY


Quote:


oh lindley, i thought you'd be found on this forum. hehe



Yeah, I'm here.

I'm not really a regular so far, but that might change in the near future.

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Friday, February 13, 2004 4:34 PM

LJC


I loved E2! My friend Kirk was in it--he played Cameron, one of the four guys who were in evey ep but had no lines. That whole cast was just fab. Especially Clancy Brown and Jessica Steen. That's how I first heard about "Firefly" actually--because of Rebecca Gayheart.

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And some just go screaming down the highway, dropping flaming bits of wreckage.

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Friday, February 13, 2004 5:11 PM

TEELABROWN


Is Twilight Zone sci-fi? Or MST3k?

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Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:24 AM

SERENA


Now and Again. Sadly gone just when it got interesting.

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Friday, April 2, 2004 9:03 PM

FIRESCAPE


Farscape's good.

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Friday, April 2, 2004 9:03 PM

FIRESCAPE



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Saturday, April 3, 2004 12:15 AM

DYAIRVATREE


Calhoun, check out Blakes'7 or Doctor Who Tom Baker years as long as plot and not special effects appeal to you. This is because these U.K. shows are really,really,really cheap looking but heavy on plot.

If you liked DS9 well you'll like Babylon 5 since the majority of the DS9 story arc was stolen from Babylon 5. Honestly if you start watching the Babylon 5 DVD's and check the dates you'll realise that most of the major DS9 arch stories were done two to three years earlier on B5. And done better I might add.

Am I saying DS9 ripped off B5, yeah pretty much.




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Saturday, April 3, 2004 3:52 AM

CALHOUN


Thanks all for your input.

When I posted initially I had a hard time remembering all the stuff i've already seen so ill make some ammendments now.

I,ve seen all Babylon5's, Farscapes, not all Earth2(it got canned after a few episodes over here in Australia). I remember Blakes7 from when I was younger, I remember liking it and will seek out the DVD's when/if they're released. I remember 1 episode in particular where there was this sniper dude who would shoot his targets with a special gun that tagged the target unknowingly with some sort of special high tech explosive and he would detonate the target remotely from the safety of space. It was cool. I digress...

Again, thanks for helping me seek out good sci fi that I may have missed. It seems I am up to date though.

Sad.

Bring on the Movie!

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Saturday, April 3, 2004 4:25 AM

EVILMIKE


We could always add in a few things that should have DVD collections:

The 80's Twilight Zone -- Unlike the more recent effort, this one earned the name Twilight Zone. Also, there was one short segment with Ron Glass as a demon that was very funny.

Gargoyles -- Best cartoon show Disney ever produced. Killed by Michael Eisner because it was too involved and mature. (Quite possibly the only 'toon to use the phrase 'biological father'.)

The Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers -- Better than average 80's cartoon. Impossible to find on tape.
Exo-Squad -- Solid 90's cartoon. An involved story with an arc -- utterly destroyed when the studio starting airing them out of order.


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Saturday, April 3, 2004 5:51 AM

MAUGWAI


Quote:

Gargoyles -- Best cartoon show Disney ever produced. Killed by Michael Eisner because it was too involved and mature. (Quite possibly the only 'toon to use the phrase 'biological father'.)

The Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers -- Better than average 80's cartoon. Impossible to find on tape.
Exo-Squad -- Solid 90's cartoon. An involved story with an arc -- utterly destroyed when the studio starting airing them out of order.



While we're on the subject of cartoons, what about DragonballZ?

Also, I don't know how Sci-fi it is, but it has a sci-fi feel and a lot of darkness. Check out Touching Evil on USA. I got hooked after the first episode.



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Saturday, April 3, 2004 8:41 AM

MDNIGHTRADIO7L


These three aren't really sci-fi, per say, but Twin Peaks, Push Nevada, and Carnivale are all worth checking out. Push, Nevada might be hard to find, though, because it only ran six episodes...

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Saturday, April 3, 2004 8:47 AM

SPIKEANDJEZEBEL


Calhoun, the episode of B7 you mentioned is called "Weapon". It is in the second season.

Season 1 is now available on dvd region 2 and 4, but since I'm in the US, that doesn't help me much. BBC America's website says it is planned for a region 1 release sometime this year.

"I like smackin' 'em!" - Jayne Cobb

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Saturday, April 3, 2004 9:47 AM

DEADLYMIDGET


Anyone remember if Space: Above and Beyond was any good?

I think I watched it, been too long ago to remember what it was like tho.

Think it was a Fox series, canceled 1st or 2nd year around 1995.

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Saturday, April 3, 2004 10:04 AM

LINDLEY


SAAB was decent. Not outstanding, but good. Saw it just recently for the first time....it ran 24 episodes.

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Saturday, April 3, 2004 10:56 AM

CALHOUN


Space Above and Beyond is no Firefly.. but nothing compares to Firefly so its an unfair comparison.

If you like Sci Fi then you should definitely have SAAB in your collection. I have seen the series 3 or 4 times now and loved it. Colonel McQueen cracks me up, and the ep where Wang is doing his "dog act" impersonating McQueen.... high-larious.

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Saturday, April 3, 2004 6:57 PM

ARIANA


Am I the only one that likes Stargate SG1?

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Saturday, April 3, 2004 9:45 PM

LINDLEY


Quote:

Originally posted by Ariana:
Am I the only one that likes Stargate SG1?

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Stewie Griffin: Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that.



No, Stargate rocks. Season 7 has been a bit down, but its still decent. And seasons 4-6 were stellar.

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Saturday, April 3, 2004 10:11 PM

DAVCO92


Another show that I don't believe anyone has mentioned is Jeremiah. The setting around fifteen years after a biological apocalypse that wiped out all the adults (over age of puberty) worldwide. I'd call it "low sci-fi" since there are no aliens/spaceships...it's populated by the kids that survived the "Big Death" and are trying to re-build the world. Created by JMS (ala Babylon 5), it is very character & arc driven and I was surprisingly impressed by some of the performances and the chemistry between certain cast members. Season 1 (approx 22 episodes) is out on dvd and season 2 (approx 15 episodes) is half-way done in US and otherwise in limbo. The latter half of season 2 is currently airing in Canada, so it will be completed one way or another. It was filmed for Showtime so the language is not sensored, which is actually kind of amusing at times...he he. I'm quite a fan of the show, but like any show I'm sure it's not for everyone. If you're interested you should buy (or maybe rent?) the season 1 dvd's or at least look into it a bit more, such as at http://abyss.hubbe.net/jeremiah/excl/buzz.html

If you do go poking around at the forums then be sure not to read TOO much since there are 2 seasons worth of spoilers scattered around. Give the show a look, you might like it.




Burn the land, boil the sea...

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Saturday, April 3, 2004 10:51 PM

BOMBA


Cleopatra 2525, its lightweight stuff, good for a laugh or two, and you do get to see Gina Torres pre-Firefly. You can still get the 1st season from R2, and the complete set is coming out to R4 soon.


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Sunday, April 4, 2004 4:47 AM

MRSKBORG


We have only had the first season of Jeremiah in here in the UK and I watched becaue it was JMS. Babylon 5 was one of the best Scifi produtions of the last several years. Jeremiah is interesting but it doesn't look like season 2 will be aired here anytime soon sadly. And I watched Blakes 7 here many years ago and it was great. Ignore the effects the stories are great. And I also watched John Doe on the Scifi channel here, it was begining to get interesting and then .......it was gone! I'm hoping someone will pick up Carnivale cos Ive heard good reports about it but not holding my breath. And SAAB was good and had potential to be very good yet again cancelled. And SG1 rocks!!

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Sunday, April 4, 2004 2:29 PM

APEMAN61


One of my favs was Brimstone. Another one of my shows that fox cancelled.

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Monday, April 5, 2004 4:08 AM

DYAIRVATREE


Spikeandjezebel,
I hope your right about the DVD I'm holding off getting more VHS of Blakes's 7 because I hear it's comming to DVD. Blakes's 7 was to my knowlege the first sci-fi show to have a real story arch. JMS says he got much inspiration from Blakes's 7.

If you haven't seen it check it out!


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Monday, April 5, 2004 4:20 AM

EMBERS


Have you tried Babylon 5? I found it a little slow to start off with but once it hit it's stride it was very involving with lots of really interesting characters...
and it was fun getting to see some old time favorite actors show up as bad guys!

eta: oops, sorry...I finally finished reading all the posts and I see that you have watched B5!


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Monday, April 5, 2004 5:06 AM

DYAIRVATREE


Bomba,
It's good to see someone bring up Cleapatra 2525 it was allways on after the bars closed. Basicly just some women in kinky outfits shooting lasers by the time the stupidity of the show started to wear thin it was over just a half hour. As I said it was on after the bars closed it helped to have a buzz on before you watched it.If you haven't seen it it's on Sci-Fi channel Saturday night.

And let us remember Gina Torres stared in this show before Firely it's a trip to watch her in that role. She played Hel.


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Monday, April 5, 2004 7:22 AM

SPIKEANDJEZEBEL


Dyairvatree,

I actually have the whole series of Blake's 7 on vhs, that i taped off of PBS in 1986! I still watch them occasionally, but the quality is not what it used to be, needless to say. Those tapes have made the rounds in the last 18 years - I've loaned the whole series out to at least a dozen people, who have all gotten hooked instantly.

The story arcs were what attracted me to the show too, as I had never seen any show with an ongoing storyline before. Awesome stuff!

"I like smackin' 'em!" - Jayne Cobb

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Monday, April 5, 2004 8:30 AM

SKYDANCE


Blake's 7. Wow. That really takes me back. Anybody remember "UFO"? It was a British show from the 60s.

I want to go on record about Farscape, though: It was only mediocre. Either the characters were too much of a stretch for the actors (the "sensual priestess" comes off instead as "flirty when it adds comedy" and serious all the rest of the time), or the characters were 2-dimensional (compare Dargo's range of emotion with Warf's inner conflict). The show was okay, but it was not great. The stories often felt contrived, too. She was a vegetable-based lifeform? Uhh ... okay.

For my money, I don't care if Deep Space 9 was derivative of other works. It was still good stories, well-acted & filmed.

Babylon 5. Epic. Losing the main psychic hurt the show, in my opinion, but it was still epic. I give it 4 stars, same as DS9.

Andromeda (starring Kevin Sorbo) was pretty good, until they swapped Necheans (sp?). I don't much like what they're doing with Trance's character, either. Personal bias. The show back in the first or second season where she's captured, and psychologically tortures her interrogator ... classic stuff. She's been downhill for a long time.

Speaking of actors morphing characters away from The Vision ... what's up with Alan Tudyk? The guy just doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the cast. All the rest of them seem to have that "team" mentality, but he just comes off as being about himself. Maybe I'm reading him wrong. As a result, he's taking the character in directions (comical ones, at that) which I don't really appreciate.

*sigh* Was taking. I guess, though, with the movie coming, perhaps he'll be taking it in that unwelcome direction in the future ... *crosses fingers*

And the best Doctor Who was clearly Pertwee.

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Monday, April 5, 2004 11:25 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES


Quote:

Originally posted by Skydance:
I want to go on record about Farscape, though: It was only mediocre. Either the characters were too much of a stretch for the actors (the "sensual priestess" comes off instead as "flirty when it adds comedy" and serious all the rest of the time)



While she wasn't one of my favourite characters, I'd have to disagree about the characters being a stretch for the actors - Ben Browder and Claudia Black in particular nailed their parts. I can understand where you are coming from with some of the characters (Granny was just plain wierd and annoying, and Jewel rarely failed to grate) though.

Quote:


or the characters were 2-dimensional (compare Dargo's range of emotion with Warf's inner conflict).



I presume we are talking about the same Worf who only remembered his Klingon heritage when Ron Moore got given a show to do? Yes Dargo was a Klingon rip-off, but in general he kept the "alien" side of his nature in place throughout the show's run.

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Speaking of actors morphing characters away from The Vision ... what's up with Alan Tudyk? The guy just doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the cast. All the rest of them seem to have that "team" mentality, but he just comes off as being about himself. Maybe I'm reading him wrong. As a result, he's taking the character in directions (comical ones, at that) which I don't really appreciate.



Didn't see that myself - Wash was very much a comic character as written, and the only example I can think of where he went in a direction other than the one Whedon intended was when he became terrified rather than ice cool pilot that one time, but I recall that Tim Minear held his hands up on that one. Was reading an interesting extract of an article on Aaron Sorkin on the West Wing, and the way he would stand at the side of the set and mumble the words the actors were saying, tapping his foot to find the rhythm he heard when he wrote it - then giving the actor notes to capture that. Watch some of the West Wing and you can understand when he describes the scripts as being like sheet music.

Anyway, the best doctor was Davidson


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Monday, April 5, 2004 12:26 PM

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For anyone that is interested, there is a possibility of Jeremiah being picked up for a third season. http://abyss.hubbe.net/echo/viewtopic.php?t=693
I wouldn't hold my breath, but it's something. I'm also pleased that the Sci-Fi channel is going to grant Farscape a grand finale as a mini-series in Farscape: Peacekeeper War (or something like that).

Burn the land, boil the sea...

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Monday, April 5, 2004 12:28 PM

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UFO was a Gerry Anderson production... It was produced in 1969/1970 and aired in the US around 1972-1973. Only one season. It's available on DVD now.

Does anyone remember The Starlost? A canadian production of a multi-domed ark in space... with Keir Dullea.

Jaymes

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Does anyone remember The Starlost? A canadian production of a multi-domed ark in space... with Keir Dullea.



Harlan Ellison's lost series as I recall - haven't seen it but read what it was meant to be.

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