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I'm not so worried about the "Last of US". I confess that I was only watching it for Pedro Pascal and the fact that it was filmed up here. Love seeing Alberta and for BC, see if I can tell where it was filmed. That's an old game, I used to play with X-Files.

As for the Doctor, I am sure somewhere along the line it will be brought back. It was after Peter Davison's doctor it was pulled, then again after either Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy's run at it. Then it was brought back with Christopher Eccleston.

I will miss it to be sure but I can only watch it on DVD now, since it was moved to streaming by Disney.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
I'm not so worried about the "Last of US". I confess that I was only watching it for Pedro Pascal and the fact that it was filmed up here. Love seeing Alberta and for BC, see if I can tell where it was filmed. That's an old game, I used to play with X-Files.

As for the Doctor, I am sure somewhere along the line it will be brought back. It was after Peter Davison's doctor it was pulled, then again after either Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy's run at it. Then it was brought back with Christopher Eccleston.

I will miss it to be sure but I can only watch it on DVD now, since it was moved to streaming by Disney.

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Now that the seasons are over, what did you think?

Sounds like maybe you didn't even finish TLOU Season 2, or didn't care much either way about it after they did what they did to Joel. I was kind of a dick being a spoiler about that when the show first came out, but I was really hoping for anyone watching it that they would have realized what a mistake that was and change it for the show. Or at least save that for the end of Season 2 instead of really early on like they did it in the game. And for the love of God, at least give Joel a death that had a purpose, and maybe some honor.

But I felt that people who didn't know the game should know that they were going to kill Joel and it was a pointless death.

That first game was beloved. I never got around to playing it myself, but when my brother came over one day with his old XBox 360 and a stack of maybe 40 games, he told me if I only play 3 of them, play these, and the first game was in that list. In fact, it was the only one he went into any detail explaining to me. (I would have played it, but I'm more into Role Playing Games and he had about a dozen in that bag that I would have played before a stealth zombie game even if it was a great story).

Then the 2nd game comes out and every gaming "journalism" site out there gave it straight 10/10 and 100% scores. Basically the best game ever made. And it only sold 25% the amount of copies the first game made when fans of the first game rejected it outright. And they still killed Joel right toward the beginning when they made the show 5 years later.

They had 5 years to fix that whole story arch and write better dialog, but the best they could come up with was lines like the "Bigot Sandwitch", and hardly made you think that Ellie was even effected by the death of Joel with her and her girlfriend having sex and smiling all the time, and not even getting into any arguments about anything. They might as well have been the same character if it weren't for much more boring solo sex scenes that I'm sure these weirdos would have filmed too.

There are people who railed on the game non-stop for a year that are coming out and saying that at least in the game the acting was top notch and the girl playing Ellie was phenomenal, given the dialog and story she had to work with. But I'm hearing the acting in the show is just mid-tier after Joel was gone and any of the meaningful plot beats that still happened in the game were almost all essentially dropped and most of the 2nd season was just the two girls walking around and talking to each other.

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I've never been much into Dr. Who and only saw a few episodes when Eccelson was the Dr. as far as I recall. It was fun camp when I watched it... clearly a UK production... but I could think of worse ways to burn an hour when I was channel surfing in my 20's. (They also were showing a really weird show called Lex at the time on the Sci-Fi/Sy-Fy channel that I'd also catch on occasion that was quirky as hell and I found just as enjoyable when I was couch surfing, though I never followed that one either. I think Lex might have been filmed in Canada?)

But I know a lot of people who have been very dissatisfied with that show for over 5 years now who just gave it up after watching it their whole lives. And this last season just sounded really, really awful.

I've also heard that the current Dr. cried in every single episode.

Because of this, and the super over-the-top flamboyancy while pretending that he's a ladies man or any kind of force to be reckoned with, let alone taken seriously, one guy I know always refers to Ncuti Gatwa as the first female Dr.

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I'm not so worried about the "Last of US". I confess that I was only watching it for Pedro Pascal and the fact that it was filmed up here. Love seeing Alberta and for BC, see if I can tell where it was filmed. That's an old game, I used to play with X-Files.

As for the Doctor, I am sure somewhere along the line it will be brought back. It was after Peter Davison's doctor it was pulled, then again after either Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy's run at it. Then it was brought back with Christopher Eccleston.

I will miss it to be sure but I can only watch it on DVD now, since it was moved to streaming by Disney.

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Now that the seasons are over, what did you think?

Sounds like maybe you didn't even finish TLOU Season 2, or didn't care much either way about it after they did what they did to Joel. I was kind of a dick being a spoiler about that when the show first came out, but I was really hoping for anyone watching it that they would have realized what a mistake that was and change it for the show. Or at least save that for the end of Season 2 instead of really early on like they did it in the game. And for the love of God, at least give Joel a death that had a purpose, and maybe some honor.

But I felt that people who didn't know the game should know that they were going to kill Joel and it was a pointless death.

That first game was beloved. I never got around to playing it myself, but when my brother came over one day with his old XBox 360 and a stack of maybe 40 games, he told me if I only play 3 of them, play these, and the first game was in that list. In fact, it was the only one he went into any detail explaining to me. (I would have played it, but I'm more into Role Playing Games and he had about a dozen in that bag that I would have played before a stealth zombie game even if it was a great story).

Then the 2nd game comes out and every gaming "journalism" site out there gave it straight 10/10 and 100% scores. Basically the best game ever made. And it only sold 25% the amount of copies the first game made when fans of the first game rejected it outright. And they still killed Joel right toward the beginning when they made the show 5 years later.

They had 5 years to fix that whole story arch and write better dialog, but the best they could come up with was lines like the "Bigot Sandwitch", and hardly made you think that Ellie was even effected by the death of Joel with her and her girlfriend having sex and smiling all the time, and not even getting into any arguments about anything. They might as well have been the same character if it weren't for much more boring solo sex scenes that I'm sure these weirdos would have filmed too.

There are people who railed on the game non-stop for a year that are coming out and saying that at least in the game the acting was top notch and the girl playing Ellie was phenomenal, given the dialog and story she had to work with. But I'm hearing the acting in the show is just mid-tier after Joel was gone and any of the meaningful plot beats that still happened in the game were almost all essentially dropped and most of the 2nd season was just the two girls walking around and talking to each other.

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I've never been much into Dr. Who and only saw a few episodes when Eccelson was the Dr. as far as I recall. It was fun camp when I watched it... clearly a UK production... but I could think of worse ways to burn an hour when I was channel surfing in my 20's. (They also were showing a really weird show called Lex at the time on the Sci-Fi/Sy-Fy channel that I'd also catch on occasion that was quirky as hell and I found just as enjoyable when I was couch surfing, though I never followed that one either. I think Lex might have been filmed in Canada?)

But I know a lot of people who have been very dissatisfied with that show for over 5 years now who just gave it up after watching it their whole lives. And this last season just sounded really, really awful.

I've also heard that the current Dr. cried in every single episode.

Because of this, and the super over-the-top flamboyancy while pretending that he's a ladies man or any kind of force to be reckoned with, let alone taken seriously, one guy I know always refers to Ncuti Gatwa as the first female Dr.

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Haven't seen Season 2 yet. I might catch it in reruns. I can get the channel it is on now, I think but I forgot about it with learning the new equipment from my cable provider. I will see it when it comes out on DVD for sure just to see what they did.

Don't think I heard about it being a game and I mean "The Last of Us". So, it meant nothing to me. I was curious and happened to think it was okay. I'm not much on zombie things anyways.

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Oh geez... sorry. I knew you were watching season 1. I figured you'd watched the entire 2nd season by now. When you do watch it, god bless ya, let me know what you think.

Yeah. It was a game at first. By the time the XBOX 360 came out, we really started to get some great interactive storytelling with top shelf hollywood actor talent doing a lot of the voices. I'm pretty sure our own Adam Baldwin has been in at least a dozen games over the years. And with the 360 they had developed a lot of filming tech, where they were actually filming real actors and then "animating" them into the games with that recorded footage.

The Last of Us (the first one) was not the first game to use this tech, but it was pretty early on in the usage before it became a lot more common. Somebody named Ashley Johnson played Ellie in the first game, and it was a much different portrayal than you see in the series. If memory serves, it may have been Ellen Paige who was in the first big-budget game that used this (at the time) new tech.

I mean, to be fair though, if you want to include rotoscoping tech, we'd been using filming in video games for a lot longer than that. A guy named Jordan Mechner made a game called Prince of Persia back in the early 90's and they filmed somebody doing all the movements and he used frames from that filming to overlay his sprite artwork on top of, and the end result was the smoothest movement you ever saw video game characters doing, which was then improved even more upon by games like the sci-fi classic Flashback.

Don't watch these whole videos, but I'm putting them up here so you can see what I mean by the fluid movement of the characters and how you can tell that there actually was some human movement in real life at some point before the final game came out.

Jordan Mechner's Prince of Persia:

This is the Super Nintendo version of the game and even though it was a later version than the originals that came out for the PC and a lot of british home computers of the day, the music alone is why I consider this version the best one. I love the dungeon song. The music and gameplay don't actually start until around the 6 minute mark. Whoever made this video took the time to film all the intro and demo sequences of the game and put them in there before they started playing it.


Flashback: The Quest For Identity:

And I forgot about "Another World". Another sci-fi classic that came out in between Prince of Persia and Flashback. (If I showed you the original DOS/PC version of Prince of Persia instead of the later Super Nintendo one I grew up with, you'd clearly see the evolution of the graphics from one Prince of Persia through Flashback...

This one was cool. It was kind of like the 2nd half of Enemy Mine when they started having some action in it. Just two beings alien to each other, only able to communicate in hand gestures and body language with each other (which was perfect for the low-tech hardware of the time) and they had to work together to survive.

(and wow... looks like this is a 25th anneversary version of it that's got all the bells and whistles and a much higher quality soundtrack than the Super Nintendo version had).

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I've been watching Dr. Who since Tom Baker was the doctor and I was in high school then. I was tooling around on Saturday night around midnight looking for something to watch when I landed on it. I remember the episode but not the title. I thought at the time it wasn't a bad show. At least it was sci-fi. It being British didn't bother me. Then a station from Washington State and believe it or not it was PBS, started running them from the beginning from William Hartnell as the first doctor and I watched those. They were run on Saturday afternoon, I think.

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Oh... Being British doesn't bother me. Born and raised with it. My old man loved Monty Python and Benny Hill and my grams watched all that British stuff on PBS and loved it. I think the "knock" there on my part was just how low budget everything looked, at least back when Eccelston was the doctor. All I remember about that show was an episode with those (I believe) famous robots that the Dr. dealt with on occasion. I loved how they all looked so cheap and probably were all sitting on top of roombas or remote controlled cars to move around.

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I've heard of Lex but I never watched it, so don't know where it was filmed.

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Yeah... It's a weird one. I don't think I would recommend it. Not unless you're into really weird stuff. It was funny though.

Oh... and the show was called Lexx... I just looked it up. And it went by two other names so it's possible that you do know the show but just by a different name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexx

Looks like it was filmed primarily in Canada and Germany, but they did a lot of filming all over I guess.

Here's the synopsis of it:

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Lexx (also known as LEXX: The Dark Zone Stories and Tales from a Parallel Universe[1]) is a science fiction television series created by Lex Gigeroff and brothers Paul and Michael Donovan. It originally aired on April 18, 1997, on Canada's Citytv as four made-for-TV movies. Beginning with season two, the format changed to a traditional TV series with each episode running 45 minutes long. The series follows a group of mismatched individuals aboard the organic spacecraft Lexx as they travel through two universes and encounter planets, including a parody of Earth. The narrative includes irony, parody, and sex comedy, and explores ideas of fatalism, reincarnation, the afterlife, and the paradigm of good and evil.

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I have heard certain things but while the Doctor was never a real tough guy, he was a good person, who loved humans for some reason. . He did have his sensitive side, especially with Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Christopher Eccelston and David Tenant.

If I can find it somewhere I will take a look at it, just out of curiosity. I mean I saw the new Doctor at the end of the 60th anniversary episode with David Tenant. And was just a handing over of the torch.

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I'm not so worried about the "Last of US". I confess that I was only watching it for Pedro Pascal and the fact that it was filmed up here. Love seeing Alberta and for BC, see if I can tell where it was filmed. That's an old game, I used to play with X-Files.

As for the Doctor, I am sure somewhere along the line it will be brought back. It was after Peter Davison's doctor it was pulled, then again after either Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy's run at it. Then it was brought back with Christopher Eccleston.

I will miss it to be sure but I can only watch it on DVD now, since it was moved to streaming by Disney.

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Now that the seasons are over, what did you think?

Sounds like maybe you didn't even finish TLOU Season 2, or didn't care much either way about it after they did what they did to Joel. I was kind of a dick being a spoiler about that when the show first came out, but I was really hoping for anyone watching it that they would have realized what a mistake that was and change it for the show. Or at least save that for the end of Season 2 instead of really early on like they did it in the game. And for the love of God, at least give Joel a death that had a purpose, and maybe some honor.

But I felt that people who didn't know the game should know that they were going to kill Joel and it was a pointless death.

That first game was beloved. I never got around to playing it myself, but when my brother came over one day with his old XBox 360 and a stack of maybe 40 games, he told me if I only play 3 of them, play these, and the first game was in that list. In fact, it was the only one he went into any detail explaining to me. (I would have played it, but I'm more into Role Playing Games and he had about a dozen in that bag that I would have played before a stealth zombie game even if it was a great story).

Then the 2nd game comes out and every gaming "journalism" site out there gave it straight 10/10 and 100% scores. Basically the best game ever made. And it only sold 25% the amount of copies the first game made when fans of the first game rejected it outright. And they still killed Joel right toward the beginning when they made the show 5 years later.

They had 5 years to fix that whole story arch and write better dialog, but the best they could come up with was lines like the "Bigot Sandwitch", and hardly made you think that Ellie was even effected by the death of Joel with her and her girlfriend having sex and smiling all the time, and not even getting into any arguments about anything. They might as well have been the same character if it weren't for much more boring solo sex scenes that I'm sure these weirdos would have filmed too.

There are people who railed on the game non-stop for a year that are coming out and saying that at least in the game the acting was top notch and the girl playing Ellie was phenomenal, given the dialog and story she had to work with. But I'm hearing the acting in the show is just mid-tier after Joel was gone and any of the meaningful plot beats that still happened in the game were almost all essentially dropped and most of the 2nd season was just the two girls walking around and talking to each other.

....

I've never been much into Dr. Who and only saw a few episodes when Eccelson was the Dr. as far as I recall. It was fun camp when I watched it... clearly a UK production... but I could think of worse ways to burn an hour when I was channel surfing in my 20's. (They also were showing a really weird show called Lex at the time on the Sci-Fi/Sy-Fy channel that I'd also catch on occasion that was quirky as hell and I found just as enjoyable when I was couch surfing, though I never followed that one either. I think Lex might have been filmed in Canada?)

But I know a lot of people who have been very dissatisfied with that show for over 5 years now who just gave it up after watching it their whole lives. And this last season just sounded really, really awful.

I've also heard that the current Dr. cried in every single episode.

Because of this, and the super over-the-top flamboyancy while pretending that he's a ladies man or any kind of force to be reckoned with, let alone taken seriously, one guy I know always refers to Ncuti Gatwa as the first female Dr.

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Haven't seen Season 2 yet. I might catch it in reruns. I can get the channel it is on now, I think but I forgot about it with learning the new equipment from my cable provider. I will see it when it comes out on DVD for sure just to see what they did.

Don't think I heard about it being a game and I mean "The Last of Us". So, it meant nothing to me. I was curious and happened to think it was okay. I'm not much on zombie things anyways.

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Oh geez... sorry. I knew you were watching season 1. I figured you'd watched the entire 2nd season by now. When you do watch it, god bless ya, let me know what you think.

Yeah. It was a game at first. By the time the XBOX 360 came out, we really started to get some great interactive storytelling with top shelf hollywood actor talent doing a lot of the voices. I'm pretty sure our own Adam Baldwin has been in at least a dozen games over the years. And with the 360 they had developed a lot of filming tech, where they were actually filming real actors and then "animating" them into the games with that recorded footage.

The Last of Us (the first one) was not the first game to use this tech, but it was pretty early on in the usage before it became a lot more common. Somebody named Ashley Johnson played Ellie in the first game, and it was a much different portrayal than you see in the series. If memory serves, it may have been Ellen Paige who was in the first big-budget game that used this (at the time) new tech.

I mean, to be fair though, if you want to include rotoscoping tech, we'd been using filming in video games for a lot longer than that. A guy named Jordan Mechner made a game called Prince of Persia back in the early 90's and they filmed somebody doing all the movements and he used frames from that filming to overlay his sprite artwork on top of, and the end result was the smoothest movement you ever saw video game characters doing, which was then improved even more upon by games like the sci-fi classic Flashback.

Don't watch these whole videos, but I'm putting them up here so you can see what I mean by the fluid movement of the characters and how you can tell that there actually was some human movement in real life at some point before the final game came out.

Jordan Mechner's Prince of Persia:

This is the Super Nintendo version of the game and even though it was a later version than the originals that came out for the PC and a lot of british home computers of the day, the music alone is why I consider this version the best one. I love the dungeon song. The music and gameplay don't actually start until around the 6 minute mark. Whoever made this video took the time to film all the intro and demo sequences of the game and put them in there before they started playing it.


Flashback: The Quest For Identity:

And I forgot about "Another World". Another sci-fi classic that came out in between Prince of Persia and Flashback. (If I showed you the original DOS/PC version of Prince of Persia instead of the later Super Nintendo one I grew up with, you'd clearly see the evolution of the graphics from one Prince of Persia through Flashback...

This one was cool. It was kind of like the 2nd half of Enemy Mine when they started having some action in it. Just two beings alien to each other, only able to communicate in hand gestures and body language with each other (which was perfect for the low-tech hardware of the time) and they had to work together to survive.

(and wow... looks like this is a 25th anneversary version of it that's got all the bells and whistles and a much higher quality soundtrack than the Super Nintendo version had).

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I've been watching Dr. Who since Tom Baker was the doctor and I was in high school then. I was tooling around on Saturday night around midnight looking for something to watch when I landed on it. I remember the episode but not the title. I thought at the time it wasn't a bad show. At least it was sci-fi. It being British didn't bother me. Then a station from Washington State and believe it or not it was PBS, started running them from the beginning from William Hartnell as the first doctor and I watched those. They were run on Saturday afternoon, I think.

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Oh... Being British doesn't bother me. Born and raised with it. My old man loved Monty Python and Benny Hill and my grams watched all that British stuff on PBS and loved it. I think the "knock" there on my part was just how low budget everything looked, at least back when Eccelston was the doctor. All I remember about that show was an episode with those (I believe) famous robots that the Dr. dealt with on occasion. I loved how they all looked so cheap and probably were all sitting on top of roombas or remote controlled cars to move around.

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I've heard of Lex but I never watched it, so don't know where it was filmed.

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Yeah... It's a weird one. I don't think I would recommend it. Not unless you're into really weird stuff. It was funny though.

Oh... and the show was called Lexx... I just looked it up. And it went by two other names so it's possible that you do know the show but just by a different name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexx

Looks like it was filmed primarily in Canada and Germany, but they did a lot of filming all over I guess.

Here's the synopsis of it:

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Lexx (also known as LEXX: The Dark Zone Stories and Tales from a Parallel Universe[1]) is a science fiction television series created by Lex Gigeroff and brothers Paul and Michael Donovan. It originally aired on April 18, 1997, on Canada's Citytv as four made-for-TV movies. Beginning with season two, the format changed to a traditional TV series with each episode running 45 minutes long. The series follows a group of mismatched individuals aboard the organic spacecraft Lexx as they travel through two universes and encounter planets, including a parody of Earth. The narrative includes irony, parody, and sex comedy, and explores ideas of fatalism, reincarnation, the afterlife, and the paradigm of good and evil.

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I have heard certain things but while the Doctor was never a real tough guy, he was a good person, who loved humans for some reason. . He did have his sensitive side, especially with Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Christopher Eccelston and David Tenant.

If I can find it somewhere I will take a look at it, just out of curiosity. I mean I saw the new Doctor at the end of the 60th anniversary episode with David Tenant. And was just a handing over of the torch.

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Yeah. I know the Dr. was never a "Man of Action" as in a 1980's musclebound action star or anything. Being sensitive is fine for a man, especially if it's really earned, but it shouldn't be the core of the man in the show. That's why we have female actresses today and we're not having men play all the roles like we did back when Shakespeare was putting on plays.

It sounds to me like the newest doctor was just there to get beat up on and saved by his companion every episode while he gave a good cry somewhere in the middle. You should really listen to the behind the scenes interviews from the showrunners, particularly Russell T Davies. It's just awful even listening to that guy speak and to hear any of his opinions about anything. He's just an awful human being and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a camera or putting out anything that impressionable people will watch.

Chris Eccleston while at a panel with his companion Billie Piper was famously asked if he would ever consider coming back and reprising his role as the doctor and he said the only way he would ever consider it is if they fired all the showrunners, and he specifically said that Russell T Davies would need to go before he would even have a discussion with anyone about it.

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