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Revenge of the Sith - Is it really worth it?

POSTED BY: ZOOT
UPDATED: Friday, May 27, 2005 17:30
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Monday, May 23, 2005 4:07 AM

ZOOT


Ok guys, your thoughts please...

I feel I ought to go see the above movie just to round off my Star Wars viewing, but I've heard its worse than ever!!

So far my best friend has said; "it was so shite I cried. It ripped the last shred of enjoyment I took in the originals out of me" and reported that people in the cinema actually threw things at the screen! Now I know London audiences can be tough, but...

Plus, I do recall spending a large part of Attack of the Clones in the loos at the Leicester Square Odeon talking to like-minded women all bored out of their skulls.

SO what d'you all reckon, is it worth a gander or should I save my cash and use it to go see the BDM one more time (assuming I haven't died of anticipation by the time it actually arrives)??


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Monday, May 23, 2005 4:59 AM

STEVETHEPIRATE


Dude, you know whether you see Ep 3 or not will have no effect on how many times you see Serenity - at least it better not.

I'll say this - if you go watch Sith, don't be surprised if you walk out of the theater more frustrated than pleased. That was my reaction.

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Monday, May 23, 2005 5:08 AM

FANTASTICLAUGHINGFAIRY


Right. Revenge of the Sith.
Amazing FX.
Fine plot (wraps up the story properly).
Better acting than in the last two films. Terrible script.
So if you can sit through some messy dialogue it's probably worth a gander yes.

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Monday, May 23, 2005 5:10 AM

ZOOT


Quote:

Originally posted by STEVEthePIRATE:
Dude, you know whether you see Ep 3 or not will have no effect on how many times you see Serenity - at least it better not.

I'll say this - if you go watch Sith, don't be surprised if you walk out of the theater more frustrated than pleased. That was my reaction.

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*gulps with aknowledged chagrin at being caught lying* StevetheP, you are of course bloody right! Am actually kinda scared by how many times I may "need" to see Serenity - you're speaking to the girl who went ot see Wimbledon 4 times - I mean, I ask you!

What little wealth I have is likely to be totally squandered on the BDM but me thinks it might be worth it...

*frustrated* is, I guess, better than sickened or in tears - maybe I'll give it a go - what else is there to do on a bank holiday weekend than a cinema marathon followed by a long and drunken deconstuction session anyhoo??


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Monday, May 23, 2005 5:25 AM

STEVETHEPIRATE


Wimbledon? Ahem ... Wimbledon? Wow. And four times to boot? Yeah, you're ready for Sith.

Geez. You might be ready for Swordfish after that.

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Monday, May 23, 2005 5:45 AM

ZOOT


please bear in mind I am a girl, and whilst a stranger to most of my sex in terms of liking sci-fi and LOTR, I still LIKE the occasional attractive man (Paul Bettany)!!

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Monday, May 23, 2005 5:57 AM

BLACKOUTNIGHTS


I recommend it.

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Monday, May 23, 2005 5:57 AM

ZOOT


Quote:

Originally posted by fantasticlaughingfairy:
Right. Revenge of the Sith.
Amazing FX.
Fine plot (wraps up the story properly).
Better acting than in the last two films. Terrible script.
So if you can sit through some messy dialogue it's probably worth a gander yes.

...and we will call it...this land...



Really?? Better acting?? - am reliably informed that a small forest would do a better job... also told that the plot is missing presumed dead... will however take your advice, go see it and make up my own mind...

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Monday, May 23, 2005 6:04 AM

BLUESUNWORSHIPPER


I enjoyed it, I enjoyed it a lot, and I hated the last two prequels.

As for the naysayers, I note that the majority are folks who haven't even seen it, but are going off what "other people" tell them. "Other people" tell ME that 'Firefly' was cancelled because 'it sucked,' and they never actually watched it.

So, are you going to go off what other folks say, or make up your own mind?


- T


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Monday, May 23, 2005 6:11 AM

ANTHONYT

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Quote:

Originally posted by BlueSunWorshipper:
I enjoyed it, I enjoyed it a lot, and I hated the last two prequels.

As for the naysayers, I note that the majority are folks who haven't even seen it, but are going off what "other people" tell them. "Other people" tell ME that 'Firefly' was cancelled because 'it sucked,' and they never actually watched it.

So, are you going to go off what other folks say, or make up your own mind?


- T




From a first person perspective: It was better than the first two.

That doesn't make it good.

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Monday, May 23, 2005 6:41 AM

MAUGWAI


I thought it was really good. It's got flaws, sure. The dialogue between Padme and Anakin was lame through most of the movie, but that wasn't really a surprise since that was my main complaint about Ep II. The last 45 minutes, however, make up for everything else. The confrontation between Anakin and Obi-Wan was possibly the best Star Wars moment ever. It wasn't perfect, but it was worth seeing. It also helps put the original trilogy in a whole new perspective. Darth Vader's actions, as well as Obi-Wan's, make a lot more sense now.



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Monday, May 23, 2005 7:57 AM

JADEHAND


I don't agree with the "better acting" call. Obi wan was the best acted throughout the prequels and continued to be good. Most of the rest could have been replaced with those cardboard cut outs you can buy at the overpriced media shops. Most dialog can (as I said in someones' blog) be reduced to ".....and now for our next FX shot."

Never live in a desert. apparently you age 45 yrs in 20.

I bought "Finding Serenity" at the book shop after the movie. There is a paragraph on page 11 talking about the depth of characters[in Firefly], the history of them that you can see, even if they just do a walk on line. Versus what they go on to call "plot-pushers". Ep III is full of "plot-pushers". all flat, no history in their eyes. irrelevant.

If you wish to walk out of a theatre feeling violated, then I recommend ep III.
Star Wars turned into a horribly malformed disgusting butterfly, "but I loved that damn catapiller."

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Monday, May 23, 2005 11:17 AM

BLUESUNWORSHIPPER


Quote:

Originally posted by Jadehand:
I don't agree with the "better acting" call. Obi wan was the best acted throughout the prequels and continued to be good. Most of the rest could have been replaced with those cardboard cut outs you can buy at the overpriced media shops. Most dialog can (as I said in someones' blog) be reduced to ".....and now for our next FX shot."

Never live in a desert. apparently you age 45 yrs in 20.

I bought "Finding Serenity" at the book shop after the movie. There is a paragraph on page 11 talking about the depth of characters[in Firefly], the history of them that you can see, even if they just do a walk on line. Versus what they go on to call "plot-pushers". Ep III is full of "plot-pushers". all flat, no history in their eyes. irrelevant.

If you wish to walk out of a theatre feeling violated, then I recommend ep III.
Star Wars turned into a horribly malformed disgusting butterfly, "but I loved that damn catapiller."

Visit WWW.Marillion.Com for a better way to live



To everyone who hasn't seen this film yet: ignore what anybody else says, and see it yourself. Some people like it, other people (with blacker hearts and lower fun thresholds, apparently) don't. If you see it and don't like it, you're out eight bucks...if you listen to somebody else and you miss it, you're out the experience. You can always get eight bucks from SOMEwhere.

By the way, to those of you who say this film was aimed at "stupid people," howzabout you and me meet out back of the theater in, say, twenty minutes? I've got two degrees in video production technology I'd like to hit you over the head with. I liked it, and I don't give a good gorram who says otherwise.


- T


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Monday, May 23, 2005 11:54 AM

SNIPER


Personally, I loved it. On the whole a huge improvement over the last two.

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Monday, May 23, 2005 12:14 PM

EBONEZER


I will agree that the special effects were awsome, the opening sequence was just breath-taking. Hayden Christiansen spent a little bit of time without a shirt on. That wasn't bad. Jar Jar binks was only on the screen twise, and he never opened his mouth. That was REALLY nice.

Beyond that, the movie was crap. Seeing it was two hours and nine bucks of my life that I'll never have back.

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Monday, May 23, 2005 1:30 PM

SIMONWHO


>> Revenge of the Sith - Is it really worth it?

Obvious, the answer is no. It's been 100,000 years for goodness sake. They really should have gotten over it by now or at least have entered some sort of counselling. This sort of bitterness never ends well.


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Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:00 PM

QUIETUDE


Speaking as someone who has seen this movie, I gotta say I was disappointed. The original three were smart and funny movies with excellent special effects for their day and good plots. Now more than 30 years on from the original and the only elements they can give is good special effects, and some one saying 'Yes Master' every 10 minutes. Granted Ewan was good, but he couldn't be great with the dialog they gave him. I just wish George Lucas knew when to hand the writing over to someone else, but no, he had to do it all himself, you would think he would have learned from the first two prequels.

All I can say is I hope they don't do a television series, or if they do, leave George well out of it.

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Friday, May 27, 2005 2:11 AM

RELFEXIVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Sniper:
Personally, I loved it. On the whole a huge improvement over the last two.



That is definitely true. If Lucas has put a tenth of the effort he put into Sith into Eps 1 and 2 they'd have been a hundred times better.

Yes, there are problems. Some can be explained, some take some quick talking to convince anyone, some might never work.

Some moments were really shocking, I thought. The younglings... I just gaped at that. And you could really feel for Obi-Wan. And the look on Anakin's face, that last time we see it... you shouldn't feel anything for him, but I do.

But, overall, better than Eps 1 and 2. But better than the original trilogy? Better than Empire, even? I don't think so.

But to the prequel trilogy, a worthy end it is.

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Friday, May 27, 2005 2:54 AM

LETOV


I fall in the "better than I and II but that doesn't say much" school of thought. The dialog was disasterous. I really felt like the whole movie served only to drag us from one CGI/Action scene to the next like it was simply a big ILM commercial.
I don't quite see how any fan could really get away from seeing it but to me it was a chore to be endured rather than a pleasure. I went back the next day and rewatched Ep V. It really amazes me that the same person who created the witty dialog between Han, Leia, and Luke in those first scenes on Hoth and in the Asteroid field could have brought us the completely worthless dialog of these prequels. I for one am glad I've seen it, only to have it out of the way. In my youth I might have been satisfied with the eye-candy (not certain on that count) but these days I feel the need for dialog and characters I can get into. I'm glad its over and hope the series is forever laid to rest.

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Friday, May 27, 2005 3:13 AM

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To be honest, I think I would rather see this made into an actual movie than go see Episode 3 again...

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Friday, May 27, 2005 9:15 AM

MONTANAGIRL


Quote:

Originally posted by LetoV:
I went back the next day and rewatched Ep V. It really amazes me that the same person who created the witty dialog between Han, Leia, and Luke in those first scenes on Hoth and in the Asteroid field could have brought us the completely worthless dialog of these prequels.


That's because someone else (Lawrence Kasdan) did the writing for Empire and Jedi. Lucas gets no credit for the good dialogue.

The basic idea for the new movies was good. If he'd let someone else write and direct them, we might've ended up with some decent movies. Unfortunately, Lucas had to do everything himself and we are left with the dren that are the prequels.

I also fall into the category of "better than I and II, but that's not saying much."

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Friday, May 27, 2005 5:30 PM

NUMEROCINCUENTAUNO


My reaction is that SITH was better than I thought it could be. After #II, I thought it would be impossible to explain the transition of Anakin from sniviling teenager to Darth Vader in 150 minutes, but GL and company did a fairly credible job. In particular, by now Hayden C. and Natalie P. are far more credible as a passionate couple, and Palpatine/the Emperor is clearly the main evil actor. The unifying theme is the hero overwhealmed by more powerful forces, and the story truly makes tragic heroes out of all the major players.

That said, I still think it would have better served the franchise to explore the aftermath rather than the backstory.

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