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Originally posted by Veteran:
I don't know about the rest of you but I thought the last ep was disappointing.

First off, how can a vessel in the middle of battle not be prepared for borders? The bots should have been swarmed by marines the second they opened the hatch. Apollo knew they got through, why'd the bridge officers seem so suprised.

Regarding continuity. Helio was able to take out Centurions with his standard issue rounds, all of a sudden you can only take out a Centurion with an explosive round to the head. Bah.

I especially didn't like the bit about a Cylon virus infecting the computers. I thought the Galactica didn't have any networks. In fact they made a point of it in the opening miniseries when Odama and Roslin were arguing about installing a LAN on the ship and again when they had to warm up the computers to calculate a jump, so how is a virus moving through their systems?

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Originally posted by Mugtwaine:
Ron Moore, the executive producer of the show, actually has a podcast which he uses like a commentary for each episode. I haven't listened to them yet this season because he said there would be spoilers. But I did read somewhere that he said the boarding craft landed in the area of the ship that had been converted to a museum during the miniseries. He also said that that part of the ship is basically abandoned at this point, since it's pretty useless when set up like a museum and they haven't really had time to clean it up yet.

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Originally posted by Mugtwaine:
And as for the network... Did you happen to see the season premiere on July 15th, or did you just see the episode on the 22nd? In the premiere, Gaeta set up a temporary network so he could calculate an FTL jump extra fast. He had security firewalls to block the Cylon virus attempts, but they failed just as the jump calculations finished...

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Originally posted by Knibblet:
This ship was going to be decommissioned. She's a travelling museum. There are going to be HUGE sections empty of folks. Many folk would have already been tranferred and their billets not be refilled because of the decommissioning. If it weren't for the security problems, I'm sure that lots of civilians could fit into the empty spaces on the battlestar./

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Originally posted by Veteran:
I wasn't aware that Gaeta set up a network. In the first episode of the Mini-Series Adama was dead set against any kind of network, eventhough the ship was going to be a museum. His stance was that the absence of a network was a tactically important aspect of the ship which should be maintained to honor those who served on her. It's hard to imagine he'd reverse himself on that point (the tactical part).

Didn't Adama order Gaeta to calculate some huge jump manaually?

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Originally posted by PurpleBelly:
It felt to me like a disposable episode to introduce faces and characters to a new audience. Better things to come, I hope.

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Originally posted by captaincdc:
Adama did not reverse himself. He was laying unconcious in the sick bay... Gaeta said that without the network it would take like 15 minutes or something like that. The XO (Tigh) was opposed but relented when he saw they were out of options.

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Originally posted by Veteran: I wasn't aware that Gaeta set up a network. In the first episode of the Mini-Series Adama was dead set against any kind of network...It's hard to imagine he'd reverse himself on that point

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Originally posted by Diego:
2. Then I answered my own question. It's a military vessel. The military crew is willing to sacrifice the ship to save the civilian population, but I don't think passengers would like to go along for a kamikaze ride. Also, at best they would be underfoot. At worst, there would be numerous security issues (not to mention the possibility of Cylon infiltrators). Okay, now I've argued myself around so that I can now accept the nearly empty Galactica.

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I guess I must have been chopping broccoli, but there is one reoccurring point that some of you have made that I still don't understand.

The Galactica had a skeleton crew, which is understandable and makes sense. What doesn’t make sense is that if they did have a skeleton why do they still, if indeed they still do? Why haven’t they conscripted from the rest of the fleet to completely man their only military defense against complete extinction. If there ever was an argument for the draft, this would seem to be it

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Originally posted by Veteran:
Yeah, maybe I was up getting a beer or something.
But your right Finn. I would think they'd have filled a lot of their roster with survivors from the fleet. We know they were recruiting pilots it only makes sense that they tried to fill the rest of their roster.

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Originally posted by sneaker98:
Without power in the CIC and communications cut, how could Saul possibly order any and all marines to attack?

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Originally posted by Veteran:
I wasn't aware that Gaeta set up a network. In the first episode of the Mini-Series Adama was dead set against any kind of network, eventhough the ship was going to be a museum. His stance was that the absence of a network was a tactically important aspect of the ship which should be maintained to honor those who served on her. It's hard to imagine he'd reverse himself on that point (the tactical part).

Didn't Adama order Gaeta to calculate some huge jump manaually?

I think your right, there is some implication that Gaeta is a Cylon. Maybe they're just teasing us, letting the audience feel a little of paranoia. How many of the 12 Models have we seen? If you count Centurions and Raiders we know of at least 6. Anyways there's 6-8 models outstanding.

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MajorClod wrote:
Wednesday, July 27, 2005 02:15
So far the first two eps haven't been all that spectacular... I really hope they do something different soon, its getting boring.

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Originally posted by Veteran:
I especially didn't like the bit about a Cylon virus infecting the computers.

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Originally posted by Zoic:

Personally I have really enjoyed these first two episodes, but I can imagine why having so many main characters out of their traditional roles might be a worry for some viewers. At the moment the show is in a kind of stalemate, which will no doubt sort it self out over the next few weeks.

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Originally posted by Knibblet:
Without the network it would take the navigation computer 12 hours - with the network, 15 minutes. Five levels of firewall doesn't seem to me to be Gaeta playing possum and I don't think he's a Cylon.

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Originally posted by captaincdc:
Adama did not reverse himself. He was laying unconcious in the sick bay... Gaeta said that without the network it would take like 15 minutes or something like that. The XO (Tigh) was opposed but relented when he saw they were out of options.

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Originally posted by Veteran: I wasn't aware that Gaeta set up a network. In the first episode of the Mini-Series Adama was dead set against any kind of network...It's hard to imagine he'd reverse himself on that point

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http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/MN-Firefly/

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I agree, but I still have issues over the gun thing. Bullets work on Caprica, but not on Galctica. My only solution is that the Cylons either fielded an upgrade once they determined a means to counter standard weapons or they are deliberately using inferior troops on Caprica as part of their "plan".

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I have also noted that all the Cylons thus far are young. Where's the old lady or old man Cylon?

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Originally posted by Mugtwaine:
Supposedly there are ways to transmit information or even hack modern-day computers in the real world simply by causing specific fluctuations in the flow of a normal powerline. I'm a software engineer and even I have no idea how that would work, but I'm told it can be done on a rudimentary level.

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LivingImpaired wrote:
If I remember correctly, the people they recruited were already in training to become pilots, yet hadn't completed the course.

The problem with drafts is that they take enormous resources to execute. First you have to devise a system to select recruits, and a bureaucracy to implement the system. Then you have to train the troops, which requires experienced soldiers to take time off their duties to teach, and even then you're dealing with a influx of very green soldiers. This is a large reason that the US military hasn't activated its own selective service; by the time the fully trained soldiers would be ready for service, it wouldn't do them any good. And that's not even getting into the political fallout.

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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Okay, when I saw the episode, the first thing I said when I saw the ship that Apollo said was a "new" bogie was "APC". My wife looked at me funny & I said "It's a troop transport". ...
We see the ship crash into the port hangar bay. So why didn't someone check it out? Damage Control team, Marines, janitor, somebody???

Why was the ship not on high alert? Why did no one seem to know a Cylon ship hit the hangar bay?

Why are Cylons on Caprica destroyed by standard small arms fire, but the ones on Galactica require explosive rounds to the head to take out?

Too many questions.....

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Originally posted by Veteran:
This is another aspect of what I'm talking about. These guys were professional enough to keep the fleet moving when the Cylons were showing up every 33 minutes, why are the making these kinds of mistakes?

Doesn't set well with me.

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