Best. Villain. Ever. by MikeyMo

My favourite villians are complicated and confusing.
The Mayor is great, as is Faith. Scorpius was all Freddy-like, and deviously playfull. Belloque in Raiders, Niska, geez, I could go on and on with great ones...

So my favourites are:
Vader. He gave up ruling a galaxy and even his life for a boy - his son. Damn, that's big.
Donald Lydecker from Dark Angel. A very complicated one, is he bad?- yeah real bad, wait, not so bad- hey! Who's side is he on? huh?
Hans Gruber from Die Hard. Not that he's so very complicated, but look who played him. Yippie Kai Yea, mother*#%&er!!!

I'm sure there's someone I'm missing...

Bad to the bone Chrisisall

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Monday, August 1, 2005 5:21 AM

Elizabeth Hurley as the Devil.

"We had ties that could not be broken, except by the passing of time. Like a rock. A broken time rock. And you're very special to me, my broken time rock people." - Nathan Fillion

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Monday, August 1, 2005 6:52 AM

SICKDUDE

Yay, I like lists!

Best vilains ever would be: Dilandu (from Escaflowne), Gosterro (from SPT Layzner), Scorpius, and Darth Vader. The japanese actor for Dilandu would also get credit for the best 'maniacal laugh'.

Stillshiny, have to diagree- sorry! I thought the original Bedazzled was so much better than the remake, and Peter Cooke was better in the role. However, I will grant that Hurley is less harsh on the eyes.

"Don't say 'ka' until you've tried it." Daniel Jackson

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Monday, August 1, 2005 7:21 AM

LETSBEBADGUYS

Vader without a doubt.
Big bad guy with epic plot arc. (well maybe forget the epic because of the writing but...)

Mal: "We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so...very...pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die."

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Monday, August 1, 2005 8:14 AM

Mr. (AGENT) Smith
Blue Hands
Senator Palpatine
The T-1000
The Replicators
The original Alien
Ash - ALIEN
Lindsey
The ISLAND - LOST
Spike - His first appearance on Angel
Evil Wesley - on 3rd Season Angel
Verbal Kent

Dracula - Dracula 2000

"We had ties that could not be broken, except by the passing of time. Like a rock. A broken time rock. And you're very special to me, my broken time rock people." - Nathan Fillion

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Monday, August 1, 2005 8:16 AM

DTUCK

Joel Bissonnette as Arnaud De Fehrn (from The Invisible Man), the villain you loved to hate. I mean really, really hate. Just... grrr. Evil. Kill 'im if you could, but them you'd never hear any of the strange, funny things he has to say anymore.

Speaking of villains you love to hate... Ethan Rayne. "Well, you won't have to worry about that anymore, mate. When you went to the loo I slipped a small pellet of poison in your drink. You'll be dead in an hour. [long, deadly silence] Just kidding!"

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Monday, August 1, 2005 8:47 AM

MOOSHOO72

1. Angelus (Buffy season 2) - He killed Willow's fish! How evil is that?!?
2. Arvin Sloane (Alias) - Is he bad? Is he good? The world may never know..
3. The First (Evil) (Buffy season 7) - Come on, Evil is its actual name! This is the daddy of all villains, incorporeal and undying. Points off for not actually being able to hurt anyone due to the incorporealness..)

But.. Let's not forget the best BDH villains.. Caleb (Cappy in Buffy), Jasmine (Gina in Angel), Hamilton (Adam in Angel), Knox (Tracey in Angel), and to an extent, Heidi (Jewel in Wonderfalls)

Am I forgetting anyone?

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Monday, August 1, 2005 9:16 AM

STARRBABY

Okay, I'm a big wierdo, but I LOVED Ursula from Disney's The Little Mermaid.

I adore villians. They are always my favorite in stories.

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Monday, August 1, 2005 10:27 AM

CALLMESERENITY

Funny, Starrbaby, because I was just thinking of Sleeping Beauty's Maleficent!

Serenity, First Officer of Destiny

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Monday, August 1, 2005 10:57 AM

FREMDFIRMA

(1) - Darth Vader.
Regardless of the crapping-on that lucas has delivered to the series and his fans, Vader was almost legendary in his nastiness and even now the very name invokes fear and dread - for a bad guy to have that strong a grasp on society at large takes some doing.

(2) - The One Ring & The Nazgul. (Will of Sauron)
Not so much a direct "villan" in and of itself, as an extension of the will of Sauron these evoked a fear far beyond their scope, downright creepifyin, you ask me.

(3) - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight (from: The Tick)
Always loved this guy, incoherent rambling and explosives go together like peanut butter and chocolate.

"One of these days, :hissssss::... MILKSHAKE.... BOOM!"

-F

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Monday, August 1, 2005 11:04 AM

TDTMF

hans gruber - die hard
sloan - alias
kahn & q - star trek
our mrs reynolds - firefly

td

mal to jayne: well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle

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Monday, August 1, 2005 11:12 AM

FOSTER

I have to say that the one who always pops into my head first is Maleficent. It may be because of my youth when I saw it but that lady is pure evil.

I have a tendency to like characters that are very very grey however. The ones that you are never sure just who they belong to or what their motives are. They are the ones that I just love.

"I like it when they wear the black hats. It makes deciding who to shot a lot easier." Elizabeth Silver

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Monday, August 1, 2005 11:36 AM

I listed three above, but I forgot three others:
Donald Moffit from Airwolf, a TRUELY nasty bastard.
Thulsa Doom from Conan the Barbarian, totally corruptive (and look who played him!).
Agent Smith from (the first) Matrix, I can smell his stink.

But still, best villain ever goes to Vader, without a doubt.

Vader laughs at Hannible Lechter Chrisisall

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Monday, August 1, 2005 12:07 PM

BADGERSHAT

Not to cast any dishonor upon the villains mentioned, because I think many of them are excellent...

But I gotta go with The Borg. ST:TNG, right around the era of Locutus.

Totally bad ass, totally relentless, totally creepy, totally effective.

Got a little bored with them as time went on, and in some of the other series, but when they first hit... damn, those were some nasty f!!kers...

Also, cheesey or not, i've always loved the original Cylons.

--Jefé The Hat

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Monday, August 1, 2005 12:22 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Best villains hmmmm.

•Albert Spica (Michael Gambon) From The Cook, the Thief, his Wife and her Lover

•The Devil (John Glover) From Brimstone

•Jubal Early (Richard Brooks) From Firefly

Just off the top of my head those are the immediate ones that spring to mind, so I guess that's fitting....

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Somnambulist

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Monday, August 1, 2005 12:29 PM

MELEAUX

Max Zorin (Christofer Walken) in A Veiw to a Kill
He just oozes creepiness. Kinda like Jubal Early- my second choice.

She understands, she doesn't comprehend

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Monday, August 1, 2005 1:14 PM

Colonel Kurtz from Apocalypse Now. A villain and a philosopher.

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I'll rape you to death.
I'll eat your flesh.
I'll sew your skin into my clothes.
If you're very very lucky, I'll do it in that order - TheReaver

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Monday, August 1, 2005 1:51 PM

LUCYFERSAM

I've got to agree with the vote for Maleficint, absolute classic villian. I'm also a fan of Snow White from Gaiman's Snow Glass Apples on the same note. Others I'm fond of are both Morden and Kartaja from Babylon 5. The Witch King of Angmar is also pretty high up there.

Lucyfersam

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Monday, August 1, 2005 2:47 PM

MANWITHPEZ

Important people don't do field work.

All right...Lists and Bad Guys!!!

1) Judge Claude Frollo from Disney's The Hunchback of Notre Dame. The most frightening villains to me have always been the ones that think they're right. Frollo carried that in spades. Couple it with quasireligious fervor, and...ewwww...

2) Andre Linoge from Stephen King's Storm of the Century. I'll credit this more to acting than to writing. Since I know we have an army of Joss lovers here, then I'll tell you that I see more than a few traces of Angelus in Linoge, who liked to ude the truth against his victims.

3) T-1000 from Terminator 2. I'll give it to Robert Patrick...he's a hell of an actor. And, though I've seen him in several things since (and he was almost always great in them)...But, admit that every time you see him, you always think of him in this role...I knew it.

Since I'm limited to three here, I won't go any further, but, as anyone who knows me here on this site knows I can rattle off lists until the cows come home...And the cows really should get their own damn homes, I think...Friggin' freeloadin' cows!!!

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Monday, August 1, 2005 2:56 PM

ALTA

So many to choose from, but my top pick is Al Pachino as Satan in Devils Advocate.

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Monday, August 1, 2005 2:57 PM

How can you ignore Vader?

Luke Chrisisall

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Monday, August 1, 2005 3:18 PM

MANWITHPEZ

Important people don't do field work.

I'm not ignoring Vader. He's just not in my top three...Then again, with only three, I have a hard time choosing...

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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Monday, August 1, 2005 3:22 PM

THATWEIRDGIRL

Great lists so far.

I have to add Hal, Wicked Witch of the West, and for the creepy factor I'm gonna go with Kane from Poltergeist II.

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Monday, August 1, 2005 3:51 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

The Terminator from the “The Terminator” (the original one, the one that was actually good)

Darth Vader from Star Wars et al

Colonel Donald Lydecker from “Dark Angel.”

Grianne Ohmsford from “Ilse Witch” et al

Jaime Lanister from “A Game of Thrones” et al

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Monday, August 1, 2005 6:18 PM

JEREELHUNTER

Vader. Hands down. Come now, no matter who you chose to list, Vader came to mind... probably first. Are all of the star wars movies top notch? No. Was Vader the best villian of all time? Heck yes.

As for others, I'm torn, but I think I'll go witht he T-1000 from T-2, the early borg, (when they were just cold hearted and efficient, before they became retarded) and the Shadows from Babylon 5.

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Monday, August 1, 2005 7:27 PM

CHOLLETT

Can i take a wild stab and say that The Operative might make an appearance on some lists come Sept?

I havent seen the movie yet, but still.

"I dont murder children"
"I do."

(shudders)

Anywhoo, i cant pick a top 3 since there are too many good ones, but here are some notable faves...

Vader (of course)
Niska (remember, the torture?)
The Mayor (Miniature. Golf.)
Spike (pre-chip, since he wasnt really a villian after)
Ganon/Ganondorf (what, i cant take from games?)
Chuck DeNomolos (just because i like Bill and Ted)

I'm babbling like a moonbrain.

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Monday, August 1, 2005 8:06 PM

DROCCULARI

1. Aku from Samurai Jack. He plunged the Earth into hundreds of years of darkness, he had those scary flaming eyes, and he so much enjoyed his evilness!

2. Number Two from the Prisoner. Since there was a different Number Two for each episode, I liked that it was the position, not necessarily the person who was in it, that was evil.

3. Lindsey from Angel. Especially with the Evil Hand.

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Monday, August 1, 2005 9:38 PM

MILT

I have to go with Angelus

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 12:25 AM

LETSBEBADGUYS

I forgot, Jubile Early... really well written.

"We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis. You know why? Because we are so...very...pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die." Mal, Serenity

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 4:26 AM

Oh my freaking cow I can't believe I forgot to list one of my all time favorites, especially for Angel fans------Holtz. He was purely evil. Right up to his last bleeding breath.

Now not hijacking just stirring up thought.

Who is more evil The Emperor or Vader? Yes Vader is the big bad that we all know, and But there would have been no Vader without his "Master"

Vader was the in your face obvious evil. Strong & destructive.

Palpatine was subtle & twisted. It is deciet & betrayal not strength that makes him purely evil.

I can't remember who it is but somewhere in the angel series someone makes a comment about being "pure" it may have even been hamilton. I'm not sure, but That to me is evil to be PURE.

Ok here's another challenge....who in the Angel series made the statement about being Pure Evil. something like "You know what your problem is..you're tainted, you still care, you're not pure" Gorrammit it's something like that. Ok there's the challenge.

"We had ties that could not be broken, except by the passing of time. Like a rock. A broken time rock. And you're very special to me, my broken time rock people." - Nathan Fillion

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 5:22 AM

WEICHI

Here is my list.

Number 3 - Keyser Soze from "Usual Suspects"

Number 2 - Robert Mitchum's Preacher from "The Night of the Hunter"

Number 1 - Lionel Barrymore's Mr.Potter in "Its a Wonderful Life" Here is a guy who would rather make a dime than save a soul. Not only does he keep the money Uncle Billy loses, he lets George grovel, ignores his noble claiming of responsability, suggests evil motives for the loss and, to top it off, calls the cops on him. And he never repents, never shows any sign of goodness. All to run a crummy little town.

At least Vader if eviling for a whole galaxy - and he isn't even good at it, he goes all noble at the end, or the middle, you know, in episode three, I mean VI.

See how I'm not punching him, I think I've grown!

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 5:30 AM

MIKEYMO

That little speech was from the meathead field-ops head from 5x01, Conviction. "I believe in evil." The look of (for lack of a better word) conviction on the guy's face makes me giggle.

And I feel bad about leaving Vader off my original list, especially since I kind of trailed off at Number 3. It's just hard for me to separate the original trilogy from the horrid prequels. I mean, you're obviously right about Vader being the universe's biggest badass. But his neutering in the prequels just makes it hard for me to include him. Instead of badass, now I see... a petulant brat. Not quite as scary.

The Emporer, however, I like a lot more since seeing the prequels. He was just owning everyone, which was just hilarious. It was fun seeing him run circles around the entire Jedi council -- I guess that's what you get when your 'savior' is a weak-minded pansy.

Oof. Sorry for the vitriol, but I find myself becoming more and more disgusted with the prequels as time goes on. Didn't mean to go so far off track.

More awesome villains:
Ben Stiller in Dodgeball.
Habib Marwan (ImhoTerror for you TWoP folks) in 24 Season 4.

"Be ashamed to die before you have scored some victory for humanity." -- Horace Mann

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 5:37 AM

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Originally posted by MikeyMo:
That little speech was from the meathead field-ops head from 5x01, Conviction. "I believe in evil." The look of (for lack of a better word) conviction on the guy's face makes me giggle.

That's the one

HAUSER -"I'm pure. I believe in evil. You and your friends, you're conflicted. You're confused. We're not. That is why you are gonna lose, because we possess the most powerful thing in the world... conviction.

"We had ties that could not be broken, except by the passing of time. Like a rock. A broken time rock. And you're very special to me, my broken time rock people." - Nathan Fillion

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 7:19 AM

THEGREYJEDI

Darth Vader
Malificent (Sleeping Beauty)
Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Kefka (Fina Fantasy VI)
Edward the Longshanks (Braveheart)
Boris the Blade aka "the sneaky f@#king Russian" (Snatch)

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 8:14 AM

OPTIMUS1998

my top 3:
1.)VADER- sheer intimidation factor
2.)Palpatine - almost PURE evil. the amount of planning and forthought needed....
3.)Scorpius - similar methodical evilness as palpatine, but has that nify S&M vibe going( like the first 2 rolled into one!)......

and now for something a little different -

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jereelhunter:

the early borg, (when they were just cold hearted and efficient, before they became retarded)

IMO, too many humans in the mix. dumbed 'em down. kinda like our society.....

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tdtmf:
kahn & q - star trek

I never really considered Q to be a Villan per se, just a omnipitent teenager....

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fremdfirma:
- The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight (from: The Tick)
Always loved this guy, incoherent rambling and explosives go together like peanut butter and chocolate.

"One of these days, :hissssss::... MILKSHAKE.... BOOM!"

FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO REMEMBERS HIM!!!!

...May have been the losing side, Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 8:36 AM

Disregarding the 'NOOOOO', Vader is probably the coolest villain of all time. Also, I'm going to put forward Number 1 from The Prisoner. Just for the hell of it. Also HAL-9000 was really cool when he went homicidal. Although I never figured out why he did. Perhaps someone can enlighten me?

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I'll rape you to death.
I'll eat your flesh.
I'll sew your skin into my clothes.
If you're very very lucky, I'll do it in that order - TheReaver

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 8:58 AM

MIKEYMO

Quote:
Also HAL-9000 was really cool when he went homicidal. Although I never figured out why he did. Perhaps someone can enlighten me?

Just buggy, probably. Gorram Windows...

Although I've posted the link before, I thought I'd do it again -- http://www.tomatonation.com/sith.shtml
Here's an exerpt:

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This is why I loved Darth Vader as a kid: he is one hundred percent tragic-opera yippee-ky-ay-motherfucker stone-cold spaghetti-Western-black-hat who's-your-daddy this-is-how-we-do-it-on-the-Death-Star-bitch we-who-are-about-to-die-salute-you capital-B bad-ass. That dude is not trying to hear anything about Indian burns or the silent treatment, and the only thing he's long-dividing is your ass with his foot.

So, we begin with the age-old story: Girl meets villain; girl falls in love; villain is revealed as a whiny bitch with confusingly written motivations, portrayed by a wooden and miscast actor in a series of movies whose timelines don't work; girl dumps villain, citing irreconcilable midichlorians, and takes up with villain's icky and wrinkly but far more campily satisfying boss.

"Be ashamed to die before you have scored some victory for humanity." -- Horace Mann

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 9:02 AM

Unless HAL went computer senile. Like Holly in Red Dwarf. And in Dwarf the guy's name was Dave. The whole Holly thing was practically stolen from 2001.

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I'll rape you to death.
I'll eat your flesh.
I'll sew your skin into my clothes.
If you're very very lucky, I'll do it in that order - TheReaver

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 9:47 AM

BLUEBOMBER

In a series:
3) Callisto from "Xena: Warrior Princess." Before the series took its utterly ridiculous turn, this chick was just as bad-ass as Xena; plus that maniacal giggle of hers was just....damn scary.
2) The Joker from Batman: The Animated Series. Mark Hamill was perfect for this voice. Chilling and hilarious all at once.
1) Q from "Star Trek." Malicious and manipulative for no reason. And funny as hell.

In a movie:
3) Scar from "The Lion King." Probably the most jealous and sinister character ever in an animated film.
2) Elle Driver from "Kill Bill." That b*tch is crazy!
1) The Joker from the original "Batman" movie. The Joker is my favorite villain of all time. And Jack Nicholson is just brilliant.

Honorable mentions: Darth Vader (Sorry, I was just never that into SW, but his costume is wicked!), Arvin Sloan, HAL, Sephiroth (FF7), and Bowser Koopa.

"Mwah ha ha ha...mine is an evil laugh. Now die."

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 11:00 AM

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Also HAL-9000 was really cool when he went homicidal. Although I never figured out why he did. Perhaps someone can enlighten me?

It's explained in the movie 2010, rent it at a video store near you. Or far, far away from you. Whatever works.

'Splainin' Chrisisall

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 11:05 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL

you could read the books

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by TheReaver:
Also HAL-9000 was really cool when he went homicidal. Although I never figured out why he did. Perhaps someone can enlighten me?

It's explained in the movie 2010, rent it at a video store near you. Or far, far away from you. Whatever works.

'Splainin' Chrisisall

I plan to eventually but I heard it's rubbish. I also plan on reading the books sometime but I already have several books on the go with more to arrive soon.

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I'll rape you to death.
I'll eat your flesh.
I'll sew your skin into my clothes.
If you're very very lucky, I'll do it in that order - TheReaver

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 11:55 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL

Quote:
Originally posted by TheReaver:

I plan to eventually but I heard it's rubbish. I also plan on reading the books sometime but I already have several books on the go with more to arrive soon.

May I suggest that you don't read the full series? The movie and first book were written at the same time (but had different things in them). The second book was written based on the movie. If you read the book but didn't see the movie you were suddenly very confused. The series gets pretty odd the more you read. Of course, you might like them. I could just be odd. eh. Enjoy learning all about HAL.

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Tuesday, August 2, 2005 12:33 PM