What would you like to see? by christhecynic

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What would you like to see?

POSTED BY: CHRISTHECYNIC
UPDATED: Saturday, June 28, 2003 19:38
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Saturday, June 28, 2003 4:30 PM

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Originally posted by christhecynic:
Card said that in a movie adaptation that was going to be made the people in charge insisted that Ender be played by a teen. This horrified him. Apparently no one watches sci fi if its not about teens, ET was listed a notable exception.

Reading his introduction in "Ender's Game", I can understand why he would be upset about changing the age. Some people (namely execs like the ones af Fox Television) just don't get it. There is a certain integrity that goes into a piece of work. It is that integrity that makes something good. It sets a level that others can aspire to, instead of keeping the status quo. This is why we have reality programming - no one wants rock the boat, and it desguised as "That's what the viewing public wants".

I say fooey on them. If you can do, you do; If you can't do, you teach; If you can't do or teach, you administrate. [/soapbox]

About "Ender's Game", it would be interesting to see what the producers who did "Dune" and "Childen of Dune" for the SciFi channel (not David Lynch) can do with the story. That would be the best chance of keeping the integrety of the characters and story.

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 4:40 PM

CANADIANJON

I am just happy that some shows from my childhood are coming back. Astroboy has a new series in Japan, and I think a live/CG Transformers movie is being made).

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 4:50 PM

CHRISTHECYNIC

The people in Children of Dune had older versions of Leto and his sister to stop a loss of integrity, making an older version of Ender would have caused a loss of integrity. Intrestring how the same thing can have such different effects. Of course Card says (I haven’t read it but believe him) that Ender being a small child was essential to the character and point, Leto being young wasn’t so important.

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 6:57 PM

HKCAVALIER

Hey everybody,

That whole thing about "the race that eats people" got me thinking about a show, or a theme for a show that I've thought a lot about. The idea is to explore racism from the standpoint of actually different races. They got some of it in "Alien Nation" but it always seemed to be too much like normal human "racism." What I'm talking about is the whole issue of whether the other race is even senscient or not. I'm talking about absolutely unbridled hate in the guise of survival and protecting your own. There are all kinds of people who think killing apes and dolphins and dogs and what have you is totally okay. I guess I'm thinking of something like the movie "Starship Troopers" except the aliens can communicate, send diplomats and form relationships.

You know, there's evidence that sperm whales destroyed human ships back in the day without immediate provocation as a general strategy. What if they saw the potential for world domination which humans posessed and decided to draw a line at the world's oceans? What if they'd found a way to prevail? What if we'd had to stop all ocean exploration and had never discovered flight? The only way to get from one continent to another was maybe some mad boatmen who made a run from Russia to Alaska at certain times of the year? Or (why not?) what if the "hollow earth" had recently been discovered as a way to travel from continent to continent? But the Whales with they're extraodinary natural sound technology could cause earthquakes? What if some people made peaceful treaties with the whales and were allowed to ride with the whales to any part of the world they wished? What if, what if, what if?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:38 PM

CHRISTHECYNIC

I think that the most interesting and thought provoking things are where there is not a clear right and wrong. Actually that’s not true, I would think that if I didn’t dislike such things. What I mean is that when a situation doesn’t have a clear right or wrong, (I like stories with hope) as long as there is a way for you to know that there is a right thing on some level and people are trying to do it you keep the hope. In concept where there can be no clearly defined right or wrong is most interesting but not always for a story.

It doesn’t just have to be a vampire thing where one species lives off another, it can be simpler. You and your people need a mineral (to survive), a recent landslide or something made it so that the plants or animals you ate which had this mineral in them are gone, you need to mine it to survive. The mining process will kill the people who took shelter in the caves as a result of this same catastrophe, and they cant leave (or they die) neither of you has a greater right to live, neither can lay claim to the caves, if it is the only source of said mineral either you kill them or you die. Who is right? If you mine you’re murdering them, if they don’t let you they’re murdering you, if you start a fight you all little murderers or attempted murderers.

That’s an hastily made up thing, but the situation of mutually exclusive necessity does occur, and it becomes a big dilemma. Tell the story from the cave dwellers’ point of view and there can be no doubt that they are good and the miners are self serving egocentric asses who might not even deserve to live. Tell it from the miners’ point of view and it’s the same in reverse.

That doesn’t really say anything that I’d like to see, although it does present the idea for a show. Every week tell the story of you’re conflict with sympathetic characters from a the opposite side, make it so it is not a misunderstanding, there is no demoniseing of the enemy, both sides understand exactly what is going on, they understand what is at stake to both sides, they know their enemies position and realize they would do exactly the same, and they still kill each other.

Not my kind of show, but it did seem to be suggested by what I was saying.

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