Best superhero movies by chrisisall

My Faves are:

1: Blade
2: Spiderman
3: Spiderman 2
4: Batman Begins
5: Daredevil (Directors cut)

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Monday, June 5, 2006 7:42 AM

NEEDY

The road to Hel is paved with good intentions

Firstly...

Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:

I tend to like sequels better than originals, just 'cause the character introduction is out of the way and we can get on with the story.

I'm kinda the opposite. I prefer an origin tale myself. Though having said that, X2 benefited from being able to get straight into the plot. Spidey 2 and Superman 2 I thought took their time a little too much. (Spidey 2 was a little disappointing for me at first because the trailer told so much of the story anyway, that I was waiting for it to get to the good bits)

Quote:
Originally posted by Tortimer:
I haven't seen X2 but I'm not a big X-Men fan. So, I'm not sure my list would change.

If you've watched X-Men, I really do recommend you watch X2, its a hell of a lot better.

X3 is a good film - I'd say on par with X-Men, if not better.
The main problem I had with it is it takes a while to get into it - but it has some really shocking moments and an awesome battle.
The biggest problem with the trilogy though is Cyclops is a wasterd character - what's the point of having him if you're not going to use him. I expect Bryan Singer was saving him for the Phoenix story in X3... but since Singer didn't end up doing it... Like I said, wasted.
At least James Marsden is in Superman Returns. Hopefully he'll have something to do in that.

Enough yapping though, here's 10 of my faves (in no particular order):

1. Spider-man
2. Spider-man 2
3. Batman Begins
4. Superman
5. Daredevil Director's Cut
6. X2
7. V for Vendetta
8. The Mask
9. Hulk
10. Superman 2

And I also liked:
X Men
X3
Batman
Batman Forever
Fantastic Four
The Punisher (New version)
and Unbreakable (if that counts)

Edited to add: Just realised this is "Best Superhero Movies", not "comic book movies". So I don't know if The Punisher counts.

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Monday, June 5, 2006 8:48 AM

GIXXER

Die Hard.

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Monday, June 5, 2006 12:27 PM

PDCHARLES

What happened? He see your face?

1. X2 - being a fan and all.
2. Spider-man 2 - great "comic book"-like action
3. Batman Begins - deeper story, and the dark knight
4. Superman - nostalgia
5. Batman - Jack baby!
6. X Men - I was dissapointed at first but
7. Spider-man
8. The Punisher - not the Dolph L. one

, had some good one-on-one fighting in this, I was surprised it was as good as it was.
9. Superman 2 - All I can say is Non.
10. Hulk - slow to develop, but cool

Daredevil and Fantastic Four looked good but needed a lil work

going to X3 tomorrow...

need to see V...

go canes!!!

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Monday, June 5, 2006 12:34 PM

VOLK564

Hmm, tough question. Probably go with:
1) Batman Begins
2) The Punisher
3) X2
4) Batman
5) Superman
Suprised to see The Punisher on so few lists...when you get down to it, Mal is a watered down Frank Castle.

-Volk

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Monday, June 5, 2006 1:23 PM

GIXXER

You mean Nathan is a watered-down Dolph?

Surely not?

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Monday, June 5, 2006 1:30 PM

VOLK564

No, I meant that Mal is a watered down Frank Castle. Frank Castle is the Punisher's real name. My point was that both were harmed by an establishement, and both wage a kind of one-man war against it - one outright and blatantly, the other a more private war. Just thought that Browncoats would draw the same connection I did.

-Volk

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Monday, June 5, 2006 1:45 PM

PLATINUMMONGOOSE

1. Superman 2
2. Batman Begins
3. Mystery Men
4. Spiderman 2
5. Batman

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 4:43 AM

GIXXER

It's OK Volk, I was being British...

Chiggy von Richthofen

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 5:27 AM

GROUNDED

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
6) Daredevil (Director's cut only)

I thought the theatrical version was a lot better than the DC. With the exception of the additional Foggy scenes of course ;)

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 5:33 AM

You just liked the bedroom scene that that Director's cut took out!

Tell the truth Chrisisall

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 8:18 AM

HAZE

Bit off topic but I wish the movie industry would leave Alen Moorses stuff alone. From Hell, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, V for Vendetta, all supreme examples of the art all turned into lack lustre movies. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that the movie version of Watchmen never surfaces.

Anyway…

Batman: Begins

Sin City

X-men 2

Spider-man 2

Superman 2 (Kneel before Zod!)

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Who do you suppose is in there?

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Thursday, June 8, 2006 10:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Haze:
Bit off topic but I wish the movie industry would leave Alen Moorses stuff alone. From Hell, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, V for Vendetta, all supreme examples of the art all turned into lack lustre movies. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that the movie version of Watchmen never surfaces.

Anyway…

Batman: Begins

Sin City

X-men 2

Spider-man 2

Superman 2 (Kneel before Zod!)

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Who do you suppose is in there?

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Thursday, June 8, 2006 10:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Haze:
Bit off topic but I wish the movie industry would leave Alen Moorses stuff alone. From Hell, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, V for Vendetta, all supreme examples of the art all turned into lack lustre movies. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that the movie version of Watchmen never surfaces.

Anyway…

Batman: Begins

Sin City

X-men 2

Spider-man 2

Superman 2 (Kneel before Zod!)

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Who do you suppose is in there?

Unless you get a director who is a fan like Sam Raimi with Spiderman it will kill it

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Saturday, June 10, 2006 4:42 PM

MOOSE

Quote:
Originally posted by NEEDY:
...and Unbreakable (if that counts)

Of course it counts!
Nice to see that someone else appreciates that movie!

1)Batman Begins
2)Spiderman 2
3)X2
4)Superman 2
5)Superman 4 (just kidding)

5)Unbreakable

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Saturday, June 10, 2006 6:15 PM

I am surprised no Blade Fans. The film is much better than the comic. Blade 1 and 2 are very cool. Blade 3 is a bit ropey (even though Jessica Biel is in it). SO that doesn't get my vote. I also seen 1 Spawn vote. Spawn deserves more than 1 vote. Great film. I'll remove spiderman 2 and put Spawn in its place

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Saturday, June 10, 2006 8:05 PM

STORYMARK

Funny how this is just more or less the same group.

For my 2 cents, though:

1: Spiderman 2
2: Batman Begins
3: X-Men 2
4: Spiderman
5: Blade 2
6: Hellboy
7: Superman
8: X-Men
9: The Incredibles
10: Daredevil Director's Cut

Honorable mentions to: The Crow (not exactly a superhero...), Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (The best Bat-movie untill Begins), Blade 1 and Superman 2.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Saturday, June 10, 2006 11:09 PM

MONKSDAD

1 Batman begins
2 Spiderman
3 spiderman 2
4 x1
5 x2
6 x3
7 Superman
8 Batman
9 Batman2
10 Daredevil directors cut
10 hellboy

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Saturday, June 10, 2006 11:20 PM

SERENITYSEEKER

Ah, a thread that I can really dig. Ok....

1. Spider-Man
2. Spider-Man 2 (I've been a Spidey fan since like age 7)
3. X2
4. The Punisher 2004
5. Batman Begins
6. X-Men
7. Superman
8. Unbreakable
9. Blade 2
10. The Flash

Honorable mentions: Fantastic Four (I know not the best acting, but still pretty shiny) and one from my childhood, The Rocketeer. Also, could you count The Boondock Saints in this category since they have a Punisher kinda vibe goin on cause if so, that one's at the top of my list.
Looks like we got some good superhero movies comin up with Superman Returns and Ghost Rider. Hopefully those will make the list.

Keep flyin'.

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 4:23 AM

TORTIMER

Quote:
Originally posted by Tortimer:
Here is my favorites in order:
1) Superman 2
2) Spider-man
3) Spider-man 2
4) The Incredibiles
5) Batman Begins
6) Superman

I haven't seen X2 but I'm not a big X-Men fan. So, I'm not sure my list would change.

Sorry, I forgot about Unbreakable. It is actually one of my favorite movies. So, I'm changing my list:

1) Superman 2
2) Spider-man
3) Spider-man 2
4) Unbreakable
5) The Incredibiles
6) Batman Begins
7) Superman

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 4:46 AM

MIMA

have you ever seen the list at comicbookmovie.com? beware the attack of the popups tho.

1. batman begins =perfect
2. xmen -favorite chars brought to life
3. spiderman 2 - decent writing
4. incredibles -awesome
5. sin city -original, riveting
6. constantine -stayed with me longer than i would have ever expected
7. mystery men (platinum mongoose thanks! i would never have remembered this one!)

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 6:33 AM

SUPERhero movies eh...

well that trashes my top comic flicks which are as a rule non super....

1. V for Vendetta (just a burnt up nut in a mask)
2. Punisher (2004) (just a nut with guns)
3. Batman Begins (just a rich guy with a suit)
4. Sin City (just a bunch of guys beating people)
5. Mystery Men (guy with a shovel - guy with a fork - girl with a magic bowling ball making her technically non-super - guy with nasty gas...)

well maybe Sin City has a little super in it....

of the rest...

well
6. Crow
7. X2
8. Spiderman 2 beats 1 solely based on Bruce C's usher.
9. The Incredibles
10. Spiderman 1/X Men

And finally if you guys are gunna claim that V and Batman and Punisher are superheroes then I'm gunna claim that TV counts as film and say that The Tick in both incarnations is the best of superhero motion pictures, antennae down.

cheers

matt

p.s. do you think Crow messed up the port engine when he went flying through the turbine? i mean a pigeon strike can take down a plane....

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 6:34 AM

PLATINUMMONGOOSE

How is the Daredevil Director's Cut different than the original? That is, is it really so much better as to actually make it *good*? 'Cause I'd pay to see that...

Also, I'm really hoping Superman Returns rocks my world, and I gotta say it looks likely. I've been a Superman junkie longer than I can remember.

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 6:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Volk564:
No, I meant that Mal is a watered down Frank Castle. Frank Castle is the Punisher's real name. My point was that both were harmed by an establishement, and both wage a kind of one-man war against it - one outright and blatantly, the other a more private war. Just thought that Browncoats would draw the same connection I did.

-Volk

Puni-what? I'm sorry I've read Punisher for 20 years and honestly I never saw a hint of Frank in Mal. Mal is dark - Frank is near psychotic. Mal does not seek revenge - he seeks escape. Frank seeks vengeance and revenge on thoise resposible and those like those responsible. In that respect Frank and Mal are polar opposites.

i like Frank. i like Mal. I also like pickles. And pistachio ice cream. Both are green but that doesn't mean there is a little pickle in my pistachio ice cream.

cheers

matt

p.s. ...200lbs guy gets sucked through the intake and Kaylee doesnt even need to look at it... Good god! they should make the primary buffer panel out of the same stuff they make the turbine blades outta!

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 2:20 PM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by JonnyAnimal:
My top 3 are:

V for Vendetta
X-Men: The Last Stand
Batman Begins

I didn't much care for Batman Begins
or either of the Spiderman

but I LOVED
V for Vendetta
all three X-men movies
and Sin City...

I really enjoyed Ang Lee's Hulk

And of course I was very disappointed in
Fantastic 4
and Cat Woman

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:02 PM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by platinummongoose:
How is the Daredevil Director's Cut different than the original? That is, is it really so much better as to actually make it *good*? 'Cause I'd pay to see that...

Also, I'm really hoping Superman Returns rocks my world, and I gotta say it looks likely. I've been a Superman junkie longer than I can remember.

I would say it's a big improvement. It adds a lot more character to the movie, and an entire sub-plot that digs into Kingkin's organization, shows more of Matt being a Lawayer (in a good way) and gives Foggy (his partner) and Urich (the journalist) a lot more to do in the story. The actions scenes are also more brutal and violent in several places, justifying the pills DD pops through the movie a bit more.

There are also a few bits cut out, such as the redundant priest confessionals, and the love scene with Elekra. I think the movie would have been further improved by cutting some of the more outrageous CG leaping and swinging through the air bits, which they say on the DVD were dictated by the studion after the successs of Spider-Man.

But overall, while still having some flaws (like the over-done "Rose from the killer" bit, and the aforementioned bad CG shots), the Director's cut is a much better movie than the theatrical version.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
the Director's cut is a much better movie than the theatrical version.

I liked Elektra better than DD, not that Elektra was so great, but the Director's cut of DD, now that's real shiny! It's a GOOD movie, waaaay better than Elektra.
Totally agree with ya Storymark.

Matt Chrisisall

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Monday, June 12, 2006 2:43 AM

ewyah.

i thought electra was hideous. v was a bastardization of moores book i grant - but i enjoyed it. elektra was a complete screw over of frank millers book... robocop 3 bad.... pink cadillac bad.... breakin' 2 bad.

swamp thing was a better comic book movie than either elektra or DD.

cheers

matt

p.s. ....so did crow's minced form get flamebroiled when it got ejected out the back of the pod?

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Monday, June 12, 2006 2:56 AM

SERENITYINSCOTLAND

Quote:
Originally posted by Gixxer:
Die Hard.

Seconded!

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Monday, June 12, 2006 3:16 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Tough call this one Chrisisall

Hmmm after some thought and much analysis of what quite falls into the superhero criteria I'd go with:

1. Tron
2. Big Trouble in Little China
3. Batman Returns (DeVito and Pfieffer were great)
4. Blade 2
5. Blade
6. Superman 2
7. Dick Tracy
8. The Shadow (I really liked this!)
9. Darkman
10. V. for Vendetta

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Monday, June 12, 2006 3:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
8. The Shadow (I really liked this!)
9. Darkman

Yeah, these two were good, and under-rated. But then, who knows?

The Chrisisall Knows....

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Monday, June 12, 2006 4:09 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
8. The Shadow (I really liked this!)
9. Darkman
Yeah, these two were good, and under-rated. But then, who knows?

The Chrisisall Knows....

Yeah the Shadow I particualrly thought was strong as he had previously been a very evil character in his past. That element I thought was ripe for a superhero.

I always enjoy my superhero's flawed and disturbed. Batman Returns did that for me aswell.

There's a scene where the circus gang are going around running amock, and two clowns are beating up this old woman. The camera follows this and then brings into frame Batman, who is just standng there watching, looking on. Then the clowns spot him and stop. Batman though doesn't engage in a fight until after the deed has been done. I always loved that detail, the fact that Batman wasn't about preventing a crime, but more about unleashing revenge, his own brand of revenge. Very significant point I thought in a superhero.

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Monday, June 12, 2006 8:36 AM

CYBERSNARK

Quote:
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Yeah the Shadow I particualrly thought was strong as he had previously been a very evil character in his past. That element I thought was ripe for a superhero.

I always enjoy my superhero's flawed and disturbed.

Same here, which is why Raven is my favourite Teen Titan. Can we do a "favourite superhero TV series" thread later?

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 5:09 AM

i think we are missing alot of the "super" in these superheroes.

cheers

matt

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 5:31 AM

CYBERSNARK

Quote:
Originally posted by kyobonitsuki:
i think we are missing alot of the "super" in these superheroes.

Which raises the question: What makes a superhero?

Is it simply a metahuman/mutant set of impossible powers or abilities? But that would exclude Batman, V, the Punisher, and a wide variety of comic book heroes who have no "powers" as such.

Is it the inherent righteousness and moral drive? Then how do we identify the anti-heroes? Where exactly is the defining line between a "superhero," an "anti-hero," and a "supervillain" (the defining question of DC's recent Infinite Crisis crossover, as I understand it*)?

(* I wasn't able to follow it, because my local comic store is crap, and I've become weary of the whole "UNIVERSE REDEFINING MEGASUPERULTRA-CROSSOVER THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING FOREVER (or at least until we get tired and go back to the status-quo)" gimmick. Every freakin' year. . .)

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 4:44 AM

i'd say that punisher is NOT a superhero... he is a vigilante... a hero but not a super.

nor batman....

nor V in my reading of him/her.

the xmen and spiderman - those with supernatural ability are superheroes.

mind you this isnt a knock at bats or frank - in fact i find non supers much more appealing.

anybody can fight crime if they are invulnerable.... but try it when you CAN be killed.

cheers

matt

p.s. p.s. let it be known that i for one, greatly enjoy the character of saffron - on a purely naked, carnal, skippy peanut butter level...

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:29 AM

OPPYH

Although I have seen every super hero movie ever made, I only have 2 that qualify as the best of the best:
Superman, and Superman 2.

In my opinion most super hero movies have good things going for them, but on;y the first two Superman movies are epic. Pure magic from start to finish.
I hope to God Bryan Singer does a good job with Superman Returns. My expectations are very high.

Superhero movies I liked better that X3: The Incredible Hulk, The Punisher-early 90's w/Dolph Lundgren. In other words it may qualify for not only the worst Superhero movie I have seen, but possibly just flat out the worst movie I have seen in about a decade. I almost walked out of the theater halfway through, I never feel that way watching movies. Painfully bad.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:38 AM

OPPYH

Chrisisall,
maybe you should start a thread about worst superhero movies also. Now that would be interesting.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:08 AM

22CLAWS

Entirely pointy.

Worst superhero movie: Batman and Robin(1997). I think Sin City is probably the best. I give credit to Spiderman and X-Men for showing that superhero movies don't have to suck.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
Chrisisall,
maybe you should start a thread about worst superhero movies also. Now that would be interesting.

You got it.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=8&t=21545

There's sure more bad than good out there, let 'er rip!

Chrisisall-man

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Saturday, July 1, 2006 3:57 PM

I'm just watching Daredevil (directors cut) now and I just noticed Stan Lee has a cameo in it when Matt Murdock is a kid he puts his cane across a guy to stop him from crossing the road and that guy is Stan Lee :)

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Saturday, July 1, 2006 5:04 PM

I've come to really appreciate DD, the movie.
Ben did a good job.

Chrisisall Murdock

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Sunday, July 2, 2006 6:16 PM

DERANGEDMILK

Quote:
Originally posted by kyobonitsuki:
i'd say that punisher is NOT a superhero... he is a vigilante... a hero but not a super.

nor batman....

nor V in my reading of him/her.

the xmen and spiderman - those with supernatural ability are superheroes.

mind you this isnt a knock at bats or frank - in fact i find non supers much more appealing.

anybody can fight crime if they are invulnerable.... but try it when you CAN be killed.

cheers

matt

p.s. p.s. let it be known that i for one, greatly enjoy the character of saffron - on a purely naked, carnal, skippy peanut butter level...

I like as well as get what you're saying. I'd prefer batman over superman anyday, however, their is a flaw in your distinction between superheroes and vigilantes. Superman is still a vigilante. So is any superhero (according to your definition as a person with paranormal abilities) who fights crime outside the justice system. I'd say that almost all of the charaters being discussed in this thread our vigilantes (even though they might not be descibed that one because the word carries such a negative connotation), the difference you're describing would be drawn along the lines of those who fight crime within the limits of a normal human being and those who have abilities that exceed those limits.

Anyway, I don't have a list yet, but Unbreakable would definitely sit at the top if I did.

-e

p.s. i too enjoy Saffron in a carnal way....in fact if the series continued and she kept cropping up, i would have liked to see her hook up with Jayne. They'd make a great couple.

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"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Sunday, July 2, 2006 6:22 PM