Post your picks for Wonder Woman by PhoenixRose

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Oh yes, and fun fact; Wonder Woman's sister Nubia has some very dark skin. If they're actually sisters an argument could be made that Wonder Woman should also be dark skinned but originally wasn't. Why? Well, let's not go into the fact that basically all super heroes have light skin, with very very rare exceptions...

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 11:29 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Remember the Nathan Fillion facts thread a few months ago? I do believe Nathan will be starring as WW.

No really, I love the idea of Gina playing her.She would be perfect.And Morena would be a good choice too.There was some talk about an actress from Bollywood playing her & she was soooo beautiful.Don't know if she can act though.

I love the Gina as WW pic,although the body looks kinda fake.Y'know I still have all my WW comics. I think she helped inspire my becoming a pagan. All that Goddess mythology .

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 12:46 PM

WHITEFALL

I just dont know what to think on the issue of WW's look. I know Joss was pro-original costumes when he did astonishing X-men, but I just cannot see him making a movie about a woman who embraces a different culture for the sake of her people, and then dons a bathing suit to walk around in. Joss does embrace the sexy often times, but... well this is why I'm so curious, I'm interested to see what he'll do.

As for who should play it, I'm afraid I've never seen morena in anything else, so i'm not sure how she'd fare. But I gotta admit, Gina Torres, best idea. Seriously. To hell with the 50's writers who wouldnt have been able to sell a black woman superhero, this is now and that was then, and for all the nostalgia value, I don't think it's worth requiring a white woman. But unfortunately the studio will probably require that the star be badass, white, female (rules out Nathan), and end up with black hair for the film. They can't afford to lose the people who'll go see it for its nostalgia.

As for lows? Ugh, any well known actress that I've seen in the news or whatever.... I really hope not. None of that lindsey lohan, preferably not Garner, please no Jessica Alba (no offence meant to DA fans, she's just played too many frail helpless damsels).

My best hope, really, is for Joss to go for a virtual unknown who vaguely looks the part (to make the marketers happy) and can absolutely act her tail off, to make us and Joss happy.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 4:37 PM

WHITEFALL

Shameless bump because I refuse to kill Rose's thread.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 6:12 PM

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

Gina as Wonder Woman?

Best. Idea. Ever.

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 7:15 PM

3HEADEDMONKEY

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Originally posted by yinyang:
Gina as Wonder Woman?

Best. Idea. Ever.

I dunno. Remember all the outrage and complaints from comic fans when Halle Berry was cast for Catwoman?

That'll prolly be what happens if Gina Torres is WW. She's good, but not WW.

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 7:49 PM

SILENCE

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Originally posted by 3HeadedMonkey:
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Originally posted by yinyang:
Gina as Wonder Woman?

Best. Idea. Ever.

I dunno. Remember all the outrage and complaints from comic fans when Halle Berry was cast for Catwoman?

That'll prolly be what happens if Gina Torres is WW. She's good, but not WW.

Halle Berry didn't exactly have that whole "shiong-tsan sha-sho" thing like Gina!

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 8:07 PM

CHEWIE

I've always thought Morena would make a kick ass WW, but now that you've brought up Gina... I can totally see it! Its just so hard to chose between the BDH's! Either of them would be out standing.

Chewie

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 10:03 PM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

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Originally posted by LittleAlbatross29:
Remember the Nathan Fillion facts thread a few months ago? I do believe Nathan will be starring as WW.

No really, I love the idea of Gina playing her.She would be perfect.And Morena would be a good choice too.There was some talk about an actress from Bollywood playing her & she was soooo beautiful. Don't know if she can act though.

I love the Gina as WW pic,although the body looks kinda fake.Y'know I still have all my WW comics. I think she helped inspire my becoming a pagan. All that Goddess mythology

*shudder* I saw that photoshop of Nathan. Eurgh.
And I looked up the actress that was being talked about, the "bollywood" actress, and she was indeed beautiful, but she didn't look like Wonder Woman to me. She wouldn't be a bad choice, but I don't think she'd be the right choice. She looked too soft and girly.
Yeah, the body looks weird because it's photoshop. But still...
Wonder Woman was my hero when I was little, just because she was a Goddess-worshipping super-powered woman. I thought that was the coolest thing ever! (I still do, despite how often she gets tied up)
Jessica Alba and Shanon Elizabeth have both been talked about, but they also look a little too... girly to me. The idea doesn't make me cringe, but it doesn't make me jump for joy either.

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Saturday, August 19, 2006 10:28 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Ok - having seen Rose's list here now I think that Gina is my hot favourite - but I am thrilled at the thought of Carsima Carpenter - I had never thought of her as leading lady before, but she could seriously kick (as you put it) ass! She can be beautiful, sultry and really strong at the same time... yeah - I'm liking the idea more n more... good work PR!

Magdalena x x x

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Sunday, August 20, 2006 6:08 AM

CYBERSNARK

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Originally posted by silence:
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Originally posted by 3HeadedMonkey:
I dunno. Remember all the outrage and complaints from comic fans when Halle Berry was cast for Catwoman?
Halle Berry didn't exactly have that whole "shiong-tsan sha-sho" thing like Gina!

Or the acting talent, or the screen presence, or the willingness to not have it be a "star vehicle."

To wit, she (and her people) probably wouldn't be telling Joss what to write, as Halle Berry's handlers were apparently doing to John Rogers.

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Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:06 PM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

See, I thought cat woman was black, it was catwoman (from batman) who was white, and this was a different cat woman from a different comic. But I'm not a huge comic fan, really, so I'm probably wrong about that.
And most people seemed more upset by the story and/or attitude of the character than her skin color. But that's just from what I saw.

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. - Gautama Siddharta

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Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:15 PM

WHITEFALL

I never saw Catwoman. But I knew people who refered to it as 'softcore porn'. Hence, why I didn't see it.

I know, eh, I think we all know Joss can do way, way better.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

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Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:27 PM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Had those people ever actually seen softcore porn? I mean, there was a bit more skin than maybe absolutely necessary(especially after the leather got all shredded somehow) but it wasn't porn. Porn involves sex and actual nekkidness. Sheesh.

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. - Gautama Siddharta

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Monday, August 21, 2006 12:10 AM

EMPXENU

Morena, gladly - Gina, no. The source material should be respected, not changed on a whim because it's the progressive (and attention-grabbing) thing to do.

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Monday, August 21, 2006 12:24 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I always thought that Sandra Bullock would have made a great WW, but I think it might be a little late for that... who knows with all that botox now though.

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Monday, August 21, 2006 12:45 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

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The source material should be respected,

I wasn't just making this up, you know.

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Monday, August 21, 2006 1:22 AM

EMPXENU

I didn't think you were but the movie is about Wonder Woman, not her sister. I don't know if William Moulton Marston was a bigot but that's not the issue and it doesn't change the image fans have of his creation, in either case. The argument that she should be black because her sister was doesn't hold water - one might as well claim the opposite.

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Monday, August 21, 2006 1:30 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Not really considering that dark skin is dominant. Same with dark eyes; it just comes out in the genes. I should know; everyone in my family has light skin, hair and eyes except my half-brother, because his father had very dark eyes and hair. So the opposite could not be argued if you're going to be logical about it. Sorry.
Also being logical about it, an "Amazon" would be from the Amazon area. Duh. And those who live by the Amazon tend to have what? Dark skin, that's right. Let's use our brains instead of our knee-jerk and/or nostalgia. I love Wonder Woman growning up and yet I have no objection to her being black, even if most of my picks are white.
If you don't think Gina has the chops to do it, that's fine, but don't discount her simply because of her skin.

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. - Gautama Siddharta

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Monday, August 21, 2006 2:39 AM

EMPXENU

WW wasn't conceived in the usual way. She was sculpted out of clay and given life by the (Greek) gods. Genes don't play into it.

"The Amazon area?" If you're thinking of the Amazon region in South America, you're way off. That name comes from the Portuguese, who thought they had discovered the mythological (is-)land figuring in the legends of the ancient Greeks. The Greek people have been composed of various ethnicities through the ages but none of them were black. In fact, the hellenistic Greeks were apparently more caucasian than modern ones. For someone who grew up with the character, you don't seem to know much about her origin, since you have the most common misconception about her. Which doesn't invalidate your opinion but you can drop the "I'll-explain-this-to-you-dear-child" routine.

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Monday, August 21, 2006 3:05 AM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Well, apologies, obviously my conception of where the Amazon got its name was incorrect. Also the origin myth was likely way, way before my time, considering she was first seen in 1941, and it was not rehashed over and over the way Batman and Superman have been. I never saw it.
Oddly enough, the image of her on wikipedia, which claims to be the cover art for #3, shows her with brownish hair, kind of fading to black. That's the only time I've seen her portrayed with lighter hair. Interesting.

Might be a lighting effect, but it still seems strange.

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. - Gautama Siddharta

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Monday, August 21, 2006 4:20 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Damn she's beautiful.
PR- I saw a history channel show where they actually proved that the Amazons existed.But they were from eastern Europe,with blonde hair & blue eyes.A modern ancestor was found in Mongolia & a dna test ( from a corpse believed to be one of the warrior women )confirmed the lineage.If they were really the Amazons or just an obscure tribe of female warriors Goddess only knows.Cool though.

I still love WW & can't wait to see what Joss does for her.
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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:28 PM

Jennifer Lopes

I aim to drool
Traveler

Phoenixrose, what movie did you get that excellent shot of Gina Torres in red leather from. I think if she hadn't got the role of Zoe she would have made an excellent Inara.
Not that I'm complaining. No way.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:32 PM

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

I'm not saying you're wrong Traveler (because, well... I don't do things like that); but, Jennifer Lopes?

That's all I'm saying.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:40 PM

You have to see the possibilities.

Wonder Woman fights evil and Jennifer looks scrappy to me. I know she does a lot of romantic movies, but actors can have a wide range if they get the chance. And I think she can handle it.

Traveler

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:43 PM

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

Well, no offense, but I don't.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:49 PM

No offence taken Yinyang. I'm sure your not the only who will disagree with me. I have a friend who doesn't like Firefly. I know, it seems impossible to me too. But everyone has their own taste and I can't force Firefly down his throat.
I would like to try, but I won't.

Traveler

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:56 PM

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

Hmm... I feel the need to explain my dislike of Lopes for the roll to you. Feel special, Traveler.

The fact that I don't think she can act well is irrelevant; I just don't think she looks the part. Plus, doesn't she have an... interesting accent?

***Tangent Ahead***

And, on the subject of your friend who doesn't like Firefly - I can see where people like that are coming from. But, for the most part, I think that they don't take the time to look past the twang and pistols - that, or they just don't appreciate getting to know characters. That's strange and slightly crazy, if you ask me.

***Tangent Ended***

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:12 PM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Ok, I hate Jennifer Lopez with a mad fiery passion. She's flat and uninteresting and when she's not flat and uninteresting she's bitchy. Wonder Woman she ain't.
I think the shot in red leather came from Xena or Hercules; I'm not sure, it just popped up on google search and my jaw dropped.
I agree she could have played an excellent Inara.

Interesting factoid about the Amazons, too. Very shiny.

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. - Gautama Siddharta

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:15 PM

I think some people have seen so much Star Trek they can't see anything else. I have known him a long time and once he gets an opinion you can't bend him. So I never press any issue with him.

And Lopes will never get the part. So I can't really defend something that will never be proven. I just get gut feelings sometimes. You see Phoenrose agrees with you. I'm out numbered.

I actually got the idea of her a doing a more dramatic role while watching her in "Wedding Planner". How romantic can you get. But I saw something in her. I can never put these things in words.

Its like Bill Murray. I saw him in several comedy roles and then he did "The Razor's Edge", and surprized me with a great performance. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it.

Traveler

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:55 PM

MONKSDAD

I dont like your jennifer lopez pic but i respect that you had the balls to pick her considering she is a (hot)horrible actress. but if they did pick her for wonder woman it would be a disaster and there would be no chance for a sequel. then joss could concentrate on some firefly stuff. so that is always a plus. :) as far as my pic for wonder woman..... I will go the JLOesque rout and choose jessica alba another hot chic who hasnt shown any acting ability

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:31 PM

Hello Monksdad:

Not a bad choice. She is only one inch taller than Lopes. Lopes is only 5'6". I have not seen her work, so have nothing to judge her buy except her looks. And she does pretty good in that department.

See looks like she's got attitude.
Gotta have attitude.

I aim for short women
Traveler

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:53 PM

COZEN

Paz Vega.

Of course, this is only because I would choose Paz for anything I can possibly imagine. From Earth to Sun, from the Big Bang through to entropy's end. Heck, from God through Satan, if she (Vega) insisted.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:57 PM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

For any (like me) who didn't know who Paz Vega was, I googled her.

Me like.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:10 PM

FARFLY

My vote is still for Jessica Biel.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:25 PM

Phoenix;

I think you should be in charge of all future threads.

Found a Jessica Biel

Traveler

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:41 PM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

All threads? Ever? Eep!

How come?

Anyway, yeah, never was a huge fan of Jessica Biel, but I suppose she could do it.
I think she has a very uninteresting face, personally. But she has proven she can get some powerful arms.

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. - Gautama Siddharta

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:56 PM

Lets just say I'm speaking from a man's point of view.

I aim to return to this thread again and again

Traveler

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:45 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

Even before there was thought of a WW movie there was one woman who everytime I saw her thought (she'd make a good WW) Terry Farrel from Deep Space Nine. I once placed her picture next to Linda Carter's and wow, they could have been sisters. Course she's far too old now, and I doubt she'd have the stamina to do the work but she has proven she can be badass, remember she took on Worf, and won him.

And just Google her to see her in that red Wedding dress. Nearly there already. Too bad she's not even considered in the running. This movie came too late.

And as much as I love them both I can't see either Morena or Gina in the roll. Sorry.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:57 PM

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Terry Farrell:

Quite gorgeous.
She does bear a resemblance to Linda Carter, though I must reiterate that I don't think that makes or breaks anything; I don't think Linda Carter is the end-all be-all of Wonder Woman at all, in fact. She's beautiful and filled out the costume well, but I think there should be more to it. Like looking like an Amazon who can kick your ass and look good doing it.

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. - Gautama Siddharta

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Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:30 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

Thus my reasoning for Farrel, she's already proven she can be a badass, anyone who watched the show saw the epi's where she interacted with the Klingons. In Blood Oath she helped Kor, Koloth and Kang (ST:TOS Klingons) fulfill a blood oath to kill an albino Klingon, only she and Kor survived. Barely.

When she married Worf she had a catfight with Martoks wife, and finally got the female Klingons respect. Not to mention the fights between the Jem Hadarr. God I'm such a Geek knowing this stuff.

All I'm saying is that out of all the candidates that are out there, she can hold her own with them. Plus she's tall, statuesque, has the Amazonian look, and she is damn pretty.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

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Wednesday, August 23, 2006 2:47 PM

You think your a geek. Can you name five of Napoleon's Marshals? Ney, Sault, Bernadotte, Grouche, Murat. I didn't look them up either. I really no this stupid information. Now that's geek. By the way Bernadotte founded the Royal Family of Sweden.

I aim to be geek
And still vote for Jennifer Lopes
Go! Jenny! Go!
Traveler

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Wednesday, August 23, 2006 4:25 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

Lopez as WW? No. Now if they do a sequel and need someone to play Wonder Girl?

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

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Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:38 AM

CYBERSNARK

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You think your a geek. Can you name five of Napoleon's Marshals? Ney, Sault, Bernadotte, Grouche, Murat.

Do I get points for misreading that as "Groucho" and getting the mental visual to go with it?

Quote:
Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Lopez as WW? No. Now if they do a sequel and need someone to play Wonder Girl?

Ugh no. J-lo is too old and buxom to be Wonder Girl.

Now, Summer, she'd be a great WG. Give her a blond wig, a Wonder Woman T-shirt, and some jeans with stars on the hips, and she's it.

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Thursday, August 24, 2006 7:29 AM

Cybersnark:

You get superbonus points for knowing Groucho.

Vie duck?

Why not a chicken?

I can make you vote for Lopes with my brain.
Traveler

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Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:36 PM

I know. I'm all alone with my Jennifer Lopes idea as Wonder Woman. But Im sticking to my guns.

I aim to stick by Lopes
Traveler

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Thursday, August 24, 2006 2:02 PM

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

That's good, Traveler (sorry, sorry!). You're filling the vital "devoted to a hopeless notion" niche; and for that, I respect you.

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Thursday, August 24, 2006 2:27 PM

Yinyang:

You must have the hickups, it's T R A V E L E R.
Or maybe Tristan is also sticking to his guns too.
Never the less I am going to send psyche messages through the entire web site turning everyone into Jennifer Lopes fans.

Traveler

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Thursday, August 24, 2006 2:27 PM