Pitch Black/The Chronicles of Riddick by Fastmover

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Pitch Black/The Chronicles of Riddick

POSTED BY: FASTMOVER
UPDATED: Thursday, January 18, 2007 06:00
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Wednesday, December 6, 2006 8:13 PM

I was wondering how many of you here have seen these movies and what you guys thought of them? I really liked them, but unfortunately there were many apparent flaws in them that led to them being relatively unsuccessful.

Josh Gray

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:26 PM

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:38 PM

TURQUOISEBOAT

Pitch Black was great when I saw it on DVD after a friend recommended it, who saw it in the theater.

I don't know if I was able to make sense of all of Chronicles - still arguably impressive in some parts but I didn't like it as much. I saw Pitch Black as more of a Survival type story, which usually keep me more engaged than sweeping, non-stop thrill rides of action and adventure. blah.

"Nothing like fresh powder!"

Turq

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:39 PM

TURQUOISEBOAT

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Saturday, December 23, 2006 9:41 AM

REAVERINA1985RIVIERA

Play the Xbox game Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay. It's the preqel to Pitch Black and it's quite good.

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How many Jaynes does it take to change a light bulb?

Two. One to try to put it in and another to find a bigger hammer.

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 1:24 PM

GIXXER

Pitch Black.

Low budget, good characters, good acting, good script. Good film. I'd almost call it sort of unique-ish, in its own way, except that it had a real feel of something Roger Corman would do. Should have been a one-off, as it was quite neatly squared away. Could easily have starred Claudia Black even more than it did.

Chronicles.

No-one can ever let anything alone, can they? Non-stop rollercoaster action big budget ton of CGI cash-in. Oh, and if we can find someone to do a script, there are a few dollars set aside for that. A noisy irritant. Could easily have starred Jean - Claude Van Damme.

G

You can't stop the sequel.

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 8:12 PM

FASTMOVER

Well I doubt you'll have to worry about any more sequels ;). I actually liked Chronicles a lot, but there are a lot of things I think it could have done better. I would have really liked them to have gone into more detail about the Necromongers and build up the storyline more slowly. Also, unfortunately the Necromongers were a bit too similar to the Borg in some respects, and I think that hurt it.

Josh Gray

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:10 PM

NOVAWO1F

Aye, in my eyes Pitch Black was great, I loved the gritty low-tech style it had. Then, chronicles. It was ok, but I honestly don't think it fit in with pitch black. They seemed like two completely different settings.

I bought the trilogy dvd a few weeks ago. It came with a animated short movie type thing, that fit even less in with Pitch Black than Chronicles did (IMO). But hey, the story was, semi-ok. :P

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:35 AM

FASTMOVER

Unfortunately I got both PB and TCOR before the trilogy came out, so I've never seen the animated Dark Fury or whatever they call it. I really liked PB because in a way it was similar to Firefly with its low-budget simple style. I think TCOR would have been much better had they been able to go for an R rating and make the Necromongers the real dark plague that they were supposed to be, as well as making Riddick more of an outlaw. The show suffered from being really subdued in those respects.

Josh Gray

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Friday, January 12, 2007 7:29 PM

UNCOMPREHENDING

Pitch Black is one of my favorite movies of the action/sci fi/horror type. It's dark, it's edgy, it has giant man-eating creatures. The plot is simplistic, but it's supposed to be that way.

Chronicles I did not like. I have the same opinion of this series that I did of the Matrix movies-- the first one is engaging and thrilling. Then they had to go and give it a back story.

Pitch Black stands alone well, but Chronicles requires so much exposition to get you to where Riddick is and then leaves so many unanswered questions that it is frustrating to watch. And the Necromongers are simply not believable as a menace.

Don't get me started on Dark Fury. Lack of any discernable plot, poor animation... yikes. Just yikes.

Man it takes a silly girl to lie about the dreams she has.
Lord it takes a lonely one to wish that she had never dreamed at all.
--Dashboard Confessional

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Saturday, January 13, 2007 5:33 PM

FASTMOVER

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Originally posted by Uncomprehending:
Pitch Black is one of my favorite movies of the action/sci fi/horror type. It's dark, it's edgy, it has giant man-eating creatures. The plot is simplistic, but it's supposed to be that way.

Chronicles I did not like. I have the same opinion of this series that I did of the Matrix movies-- the first one is engaging and thrilling. Then they had to go and give it a back story.

Pitch Black stands alone well, but Chronicles requires so much exposition to get you to where Riddick is and then leaves so many unanswered questions that it is frustrating to watch. And the Necromongers are simply not believable as a menace.

Don't get me started on Dark Fury. Lack of any discernable plot, poor animation... yikes. Just yikes.

Man it takes a silly girl to lie about the dreams she has.
Lord it takes a lonely one to wish that she had never dreamed at all.
--Dashboard Confessional

I see where you are coming from, and there are also many characters in Chronicles that could have been given much more significant parts then they were. In fact, some of them barely have any reason for being in the movie at all. For example, the Purifier who ultimately turns back to Furyan and walks out into the burning sunlight. I really liked his character and what he was because of my personal feelings and beliefs, but there was no real point to him other than pulling Riddick into the hangar in the end to save his life. They could have had Kyra do that, or Riddick even wake up and walk in himself. I think they really should have had that character do a whole lot more in the way of "planning, plotting, and possibly scheming" for the Lord Marshall's demise. Then there's also Aerion, the Air Elemental who basically did nothing but hang around and give lame advice. Once again, another character who could have done a whole lot more.

I actually liked the whole back story thing, but they just made the Necromongers weak. They should have been just a bit more hardcore with them. The thing that hurt it for me was how they built up the suspense of their arrival like they were some dark plague, but when they arrive they're no more than any other army we've seen in any other battle movie. If they had just done like I think they should have done and made the whole storyline take place over 3 films, then it would have worked better, just like LOTR kept you wanting more and obliging you to see the next film.

I am evil, I am sly, and if you get eaten no one will cry.

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Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:29 AM

KAYLEESTHEGREATEST

i saw pitch black and i jjust started playing the game this morning. isnt ven diseal gay?

Someday the verse will spit in your soup but at least they gave you soup.
one day
one plan
one mission
one army of browncoats
june 23rd serenity day

-Our mission as browncoats is to make us known.

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Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:52 PM

FASTMOVER

Quote:
Originally posted by kayleesthegreatest:
i saw pitch black and i jjust started playing the game this morning. isnt ven diseal gay?

Someday the verse will spit in your soup but at least they gave you soup.
one day
one plan
one mission
one army of browncoats
june 23rd serenity day

-Our mission as browncoats is to make us known.

It's been rumored, however as far as I know he's straight. He apparently likes to joke around about it and act a little "elegant" once in a while, as well as appearing in a magazine that has a large gay following. Really, though, this doesn't matter at all to me as long as he's a good actor. Ian McKellan is gay but I was very impressed with his performance in LOTR.

I am evil, I am sly, and if you get eaten no one will cry.

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Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:00 AM

SABRI3L

Its actually funny to go on the IMDB boards for pretty much any actor out there. Always at least one thread inquiring as to sexuality, as well as infinity rebuttels and agreements.

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