Indy Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull by AURaptor

Rap

I didn't click on this for a long time because I thought "what is there to say?

Okay, was it bad? OMFG. But you prolly saw SW ep 3, so expectation had to be low.

The only real fun would be in spoilers, but how...

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At least I now know how to survive a nuclear blast!

Why was it bad is worth mentioning. The movie was delayed for 10 years because Lucas wouldn't be budged. He still didn't budge, so eventually Ford and Spielberg caved because Ford thought he'd get too old to do it otherwise.

The problem was that Star Wars made a billion dollars in the end, and Close encounters didn't. So by the time it came to make Raiders, Steven had jack and George had already half a billion in the bank, and his own company, so Lucas ended up owning the name Indiana Jones and there was nothing that Spielberg could do about it.

Lucas has gotten to the point where he doesn't listen to anyone. He personally wrote the dialogue for Star Wars Episode Three himself, and wouldn't allow any edits. That says it all.

As my dad always says, "a good writer doesn't need an editor, a good writer *deserves* an editor."

I wouldn't say to people looking for entertainment "don't see it" I would say, bring your popcorn and you MST3K face, because you're going to need it. Oh, and a line from my sister on this one: "My bungeecord of disbelieve wouldn't last three minutes in this universe"

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:24 PM

I am a double post. Alas, I live in redundancy.

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 3:57 PM

KATESFRIEND

I saw Crystal Skull over New Years and really wished I hadn't. If I had to pay for this at the theatres I think I would have been very disappointed. The first Indy was great, the second - the Temple of Doom - was dumb. The third was great again, and the fourth was just as dumb. It felt like the actors were being charactures of themselves, and were trying to find the cliches that had worked in the past, even though rat snakes don't make good ropes. The evil woman scientist was not much different from the Nazi in the first movie - actually they were pretty interchangable. The story wasn't terrible, it just could have been so much more credible in the little details. I was never transported on the journey as in movies 1 and 3, and I'll never watch it again. But I'm glad it had a happy ending. That is the best feature of the whole movie

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:36 PM

CIOCCOLATA

First of all...I really hate when people tell me not to go see a movie because they hated it. Good for you that you hated it, it's called free will and you have it as well as I. If someone doesn't like it, tell the reason they hated it and move on. I, like any other person on the face of this planet can and will form our own opinion of the movie.
Second...I liked this movie. It had all the elements of a movie I like, thrills..spill..adventure...comedy...romance. I wasn't thrilled with the direction they went with the ending, but I enjoyed the movie and am happy to add it to my collection.

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:07 PM

America loves a winner!

dream

Had to laugh per the spoiler. Well done. And somehow I missed the South Park ep and the 'rape' of Indiana Jones, but I loved the 1st comment left on the linked page above -

" At least i'm not the only one that thought Crystal Skull sucked beyond my ability to quantify its suckiness. Thank god for Matt and Trey. "

And kudos to your sis. She is wise, that much I can say.

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:08 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by cioccolata:
First of all...I really hate when people tell me not to go see a movie because they hated it. Good for you that you hated it, it's called free will and you have it as well as I. If someone doesn't like it, tell the reason they hated it and move on. I, like any other person on the face of this planet can and will form our own opinion of the movie.
Second...I liked this movie. It had all the elements of a movie I like, thrills..spill..adventure...comedy...romance. I wasn't thrilled with the direction they went with the ending, but I enjoyed the movie and am happy to add it to my collection.

I forbid you to see any more films that I do no approve of personally. Heed my command.

p.s. Also, destroy your dvd of this movie, and never speak of it again. Ever.

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Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:31 PM

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the fourth was just as dumb

Au Contraire, it was far far dumber. Just pick any 5 minute segment, and the scientific errors alone will be enough to start a religion on.

I think bad B movies are fun, but it's perfectly legit to say "this is a bad B movie" because then people know how to take it, and enjoy it, without being disappointed.

In fact, I think the most entertaining way to watch this movie if I were ever to be in a social situation which mandated re-watching it would be to try to catch every error. It would be hard. A challenge.

I agree that 2 was dumb, but had its moments. I liked Kate Capshaw with real giant insects lost in her hair. I saw this thing on the making of, and they actually went to lunch, and left her with a giant centipede lost somewhere in her hair for an extended period of time. And she married him *after* that. I guess more dating tips: Don't forget your giant centipede.

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Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:14 AM

LEEDAVIDT

i saw it twice in the theatre..just cuz i took my boys seperately...eh...it was ok...ok enough to buy it on blu-ray for $15.00...now i have all four...yay...can't really say i enjoyed the crystal skull very much...waited way too long for the movie to come out...10 years ??!! hmm

[Back in the present day, with Serenity fixed, Mal finds himself dazed in the company of his crew and passengers.]
Mal: You all gonna be here when I wake up?
Book: We'll be here.
Mal: Good. That's good.
[As Mal falls asleep, he experiences another flashback, to a used spaceship yard.]
Salesman: Yup. Real beauty, ain't she? Yes sir.
[The rocket-shaped vessel that the salesman is trying to sell Mal comes into view.]
Salesman: Tell you what. You buy this ship - treat her proper - she'll be with you for the rest of your life.
[But Mal has his attention caught by something else.]
Salesman: Son? Hey, son?
[As we follow Mal's point of view, we see a battered old Firefly, someday to become "Serenity," sitting on the other side of the lot.]
Salesman: You hear a word I been sayin'?

http://www.myspace.com/leedavidt

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Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by cioccolata:
First of all...I really hate when people tell me not to go see a movie because they hated it. Good for you that you hated it, it's called free will and you have it as well as I. If someone doesn't like it, tell the reason they hated it and move on. I, like any other person on the face of this planet can and will form our own opinion of the movie.

Hear hear!

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Second...I liked this movie. It had all the elements of a movie I like, thrills..spill..adventure...comedy...romance.

Me too, I'm sorry not to hate on it just 'cause Lucas had something to do with it, I really am. I hate being different than others.

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I wasn't thrilled with the direction they went with the ending, but I enjoyed the movie and am happy to add it to my collection.

I liked the ending as much as the rest of the flick. In fact, I love the film. I like every Indy film for entirely different reasons...

The fridge-nuked Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:24 PM

It was okay. I didn't hate it, but I found it extremely dissapointing, for a number of reasons, most of which come down to the script.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, January 13, 2009 5:13 PM

REDLAVA

If anybody has seen the South Park episode where George Lucas and Steven Spielberg rape Indy in the you-know-where, then that pretty much sums up my take on the Crystal Skull.

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Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:34 PM

America loves a winner!

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I liked the ending as much as the rest of the flick. In fact, I love the film. I like every Indy film for entirely different reasons...

Chrissy, you're one of, if not THE most incorrigible wanna be fan boy suck up - ever.

Back in the fridge for you!

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Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:55 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

I'll side with Chrisisall on this one. Not that I loved the movie, and I doubt I'll buy it, but it is what it is. An Indy movie that brings the thrills and chills, along with all the hokeyness you expect from something patterned after the adventure serials from Lucas' youth. To judge it on any other level is to shun the entire genre. I'd have to say that for anyone who thinks Crystal Skull was worse than Temple of Doom, then they've lost any credibilty as a reviewer for me.

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Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:37 AM

I find "it's just an adventure movie" the most intellectually lazy defense of a film, regardless of which one, there is.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:45 AM

ECGORDON

I challenge you. Watch the movies back to back, and then say that again. Temple of Doom was bad. But it wasn't this bad. I mean there was a level of creepy to it, the feel was creepy. It wasn't like 1 or 3.

But CHRIS

What are you smoking? I find hollywood usually entertaining as spectacle, and this was full of that, even in its overly obvious cgi way. But it did take hokey to new depths. It was SW Ep3 bad, it was probably just SW Ep2 bad.

I enjoy movies generally. But I'm sure I was laughing at this one more than with it. The whole magnetic scene in the beginning was where the thing fell apart. I mean, the first minute went okay. Nothing that happened in this movie happened for any reason that would be called a story element. It all happened just to set up the next scene.

Wouldn't it be better if the whole thing had just been a comedy? I mean, it was already such a spoof of its former self, that they could have dispensed with any pretense at anything else. I liked little touches like hitting the ark on the way out, which I guess magically is immune to the magical magnetism, as are notable other items. But if I were to try to find fault with this story, it would fill up the hard drive. I mean, literally, minute by minute. So sure, there were some fun over the top actions scenes of outright silliness, and a couple good throw away lines from Ford.

but ECGORDON

What are you smoking? I mean, I'm not a big fan of 2 and Lucas has really lost any credibility. But two had a story, where elements led one event to another. It was a silly story, but it was there.

RAP,

Don't beat up on Chris, it's not nice. He's like, well, our mascot.

LUCAS

WTF Man? What are you smoking? and how long have you been smoking it? You know what this movie really needs? More ham, and more cheese, and oh yeah

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Aliens. Nothing cool. really dumb fucking aliens. Ones that not only look dumb, but are internally inconsistent. Then we can have a dumb ending that we'll copy from X-Files, because everyone hated it in X-Files.

I mean, I want this movie to suck. I hate my suck-up fanboys. I mean, jesus, I could just run 2 hours of blank screen and these geeks would pour in seven bucks a piece.

Yeah, are you kidding me? They just watched three star wars movied that sucked. And I tried to make them suck, each one, worse than the last, and they kept on coming. I mean, will these geeks with their beer bellies and hair and that same stained T-Shirt that they've been wearing for three days that says C:DOS\Run, I mean, these guy's'll never give up.

But no, that's to would be too cheap to just make some spinoff game can get them to buy collectible miniature tabletop warhammer style toys until they had to explain to mom what all that stuff in the closet was, like how Magic cards weren't really a nickname for cannabis.

No, I wanted them to suffer.

LUCAS

Let's face it. You suck. You always sucked. The story's were simplistic, and the characters cardboard, and wouldn't be likeable but there's not enough there to actually dislike. What you have is Industrial Light and Magic.

Here's a better idea. instead of hiring actors and stuff, just like take some money, and buy a whole bunch of drugs, and give them to Dykstra and his boys, and let them get really stone, and come up with something totally random, and then just have them throw it on the screen, with just no explanation at all. Just Whoa, man, Kennebunkport just got eaten by a giant starfish.

And then the that might actually be cool. Yeah, I know, I shoulda gone with lobster, because it would be more fitting. The funnier thing is that spell checker follows my where ever I type, and is obviously british english, and it hates that being in lower case, but I know this because it's always wanting -or to turn into -our, and -ense into -ence, but it really couldn't handle Kennebunkport. It still can't. It wants to change it to Drunkenness.

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Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:51 AM

The reason Temple of Doom is better than KOTCS - There was an actual sense of danger on TOD, but never in KOTCS did I feel anyone was ever in any actual danger. Also, Indy actually makes active choices in TOD, that effect the outcome of the story. In KOTCS, he's pretty much along for the ride, is led by the supporting characters and villains, and has no actual influence over the outcome of the story, post jeep chase. He could have literally gone home at that point, and the story would have ended the same.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:04 AM

Oh I loved this film! I thought it was heaps of fun. Watched it twice in the cine- Oh hang on. Wrong crowd. Bugger!

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Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:52 PM

TWO

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
... Not that I loved the movie, and I doubt I'll buy it, but it is what it is. An Indy movie that brings the thrills and chills, along with all the hokeyness you expect from something patterned after the adventure serials from Lucas' youth. To judge it on any other level is to shun the entire genre.

Judge the movie based on the two scripts written for Indy 4. There was a good script that went to all the same plot points as the bad script, which added a noxious ingredient to the adventure - Indy's bastard child named Mutt. George Lucas went with the “Mutt” script. The movie that the fanbase deserved was written, but left unproduced. Lucas blatantly ripped entire sequences from a much better film into the one he ended up with.

Here are 50 points of excellence in the “good” script, per professional writers:
http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com/2008/06/50-strengths-of-darabonts
-draft.html

50 mistakes that the “Mutt” script made in the opinion of professionals. Funny!:
http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com/2008/05/50-flaws-of-indy-iv.html
George Lucas should read it and learn so he doesn't repeat the same mistakes in the future.

Read the good script here.:
http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Purported_Indiana_Jones_4_original_scree
nplay_draft
This is the movie that would have been head, shoulders, and crotch above the actual movie that was made. This would have been the best Indy movie of the four! It could have happened if only George Lucas hadn't insisted on a role for Shia LaBeouf, who played Mutt. And it could have been filmed for the budget of $185,000,000 (estimated) spent on the Indy 4.

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Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:08 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

I tried to watch this tonight. Got maybe 3/4 of the way in and just had to take it out.

Such a shame!

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

Yes We Did!

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

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Thursday, January 15, 2009 6:53 AM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Oh I loved this film! I thought it was heaps of fun. Watched it twice in the cine- Oh hang on. Wrong crowd. Bugger!

We are pilgrims in an unholy land, Som.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:00 PM

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Originally posted by Katesfriend:
The first Indy was great, the second - the Temple of Doom - was dumb. The third was great again, and the fourth was just as dumb.

Whoah right there. ALL of 'em were DUMB when you get right down to it. This ain't SF; it's fantasy.

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It felt like the actors were being charactures of themselves, and were trying to find the cliches that had worked in the past, even though rat snakes don't make good ropes.

Once again, ageist attitudes prevail. These peeps are DECADES older than when we last saw them; they can't help but be markedly different.

It was a fun flick, period. If you want serious & meticulously devised, watch The Constant Gardner.

The LeCarre-like Chrisisall

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Friday, January 16, 2009 7:18 AM

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Whoah right there. ALL of 'em were DUMB when you get right down to it. This ain't SF; it's fantasy.

Whoah right there. Fantasy can be just as insightful as sf, and Sci-Fi can be just as banal as fantasy. Each genre has an underlying question. The core question of Sci-fi is "What if?"

Some sci-fi, like star wars, is often called fantasy or science-fantasy because it doesn't hinge on its futuristic or scientific elements. I mean, major key disputes come down to sword fights. You could take the whole thing, Vader is the dark lord, give him a castle instead of a space station, etc. And you have the same story.

Two things that people can't stand in a movie are basic outline choices, more than anything, some of these are inconsitancies or unimaginative choices, others can toss a whole film because they didn't like a perfectly legit and consistent, even surprising element, like killing Wash. I thought this was insanely clever, btw, because it had been preceded by a standard western death "Son, I'm going to croak, but let me impart some wisdom before I do so" style scene. Then Joss said, But wake up guys, this ain't the 1890s, and it ain't the 1950s, so it ain't your daddy's western, and I ain't constrained to no rules.

The other thing people don't like is anything that spoils the illusion, takes them out of the world of the story. Unbelievable situations, characters, and more than anything, just bad dialogue does this. If we can't believe in the characters, events, or places, in that order, then we can't believe in the world.

temple of doom, which god how did I end up defending, has the advantage that it doesn't spit you out of the reality. Here's what I think would be a step up from Indy and the CS, which I enjoyed watching, but has little cinematic merit: Indy and the CS4.

Just throw special effects and zombies and archaeology at us, and don't give us a reason. They can sell magic popcorn at the counter to help you enjoy the film ;)

There's no reason that visual entertainment has to be a coherent story. And, if it can't be one, it might as well give up and be all avant garde. I think Dr. Who has been running on this for 45 years

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Friday, January 16, 2009 7:36 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:

Whoah right there. Fantasy can be just as insightful as sf, and Sci-Fi can be just as banal as fantasy. Each genre has an underlying question. The core question of Sci-fi is "What if?"

What if light sabres could actually work?
But they can't.
What if God really punished Nazis?
But she didn't.

So don't be throwin' Indy's fridge at me.

And I'm not one who just blindly accepts whatever crap is handed me; I HATED Matrix 2 & 3, SW 1, 2, & 3, Die Hard 3 & 4, Pirates 2 & 3, etc.

I place Indy 4 along side of X-Men 3; could have been better, but entertaining as hell in any case.

The 'splainin' Chrisisall

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Friday, January 16, 2009 8:35 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Whoah right there. ALL of 'em were DUMB when you get right down to it. This ain't SF; it's fantasy.

Whoah yerself, buddy. Fantasy isn't "dumb" by default, as you imply. And Raiders wasn't either.

I've never seen you post anything so wrong-headed or beneath your normal level. I'm seriously shocked here.

And your dismissiveness of those who have differing opinions... very dissapointing...isall.

I mean, equating the use of scifi tech in a space opera, or the foreshadowed ending of Raiders utilizing powers from the supernatural device - powers established in the second scene of the film, to the damned fridge... lazy man. Lazy.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 16, 2009 8:58 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Whoah yerself, buddy. Fantasy isn't "dumb" by default, as you imply.

If I implied that...I am sorry.

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And Raiders wasn't either.

I'm just sayin' that if Indy 4 is dumb, so are they all. Impossible stuff happens in all of them, and they all play fast & loose with physics. That's all.

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I've never seen you post anything so wrong-headed or beneath your normal level. I'm seriously shocked here.

Ground yourself, Story.

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And your dismissiveness of those who have differing opinions... very dissapointing...isall.

Never take my dismissiveness seriously when I'm talkin' entertainment, it's all good. Like I've said before, differences in how we perceive these flicks depends richly on what we individually bring to the party. Just please don't say a movie like Indy 4 is bad just because you (not YOU you) don't like it. Hey- some peeps loved Die Hard 4, and I can understand why.

The only time to take me 100% seriously concerning stuff like this is when I say Serenity is the BEST SF movie ever made.

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the damned fridge... lazy man. Lazy.

Can't really argue against this particular point.

The playin' Chrisisall

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Friday, January 16, 2009 9:48 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Just please don't say a movie like Indy 4 is bad just because you (not YOU you) don't like it.

Then, by the same token, you can't claim it's "good" just because you like it.

And the reason the fridge is dumb goes far beyond physics.

And is Firefly dumb, because of all the innumerable things show in it, that are impossible?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, January 16, 2009 9:55 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Then, by the same token, you can't claim it's "good" just because you like it.

Touche'.

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And is Firefly dumb, because of all the innumerable things show in it, that are impossible?

Yep.
But they fixed them in Serenity.

Runs away

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Friday, January 16, 2009 10:23 AM

I think basically with all these films you have to dispense with alot of reality. (I'm sure I don't have to point that out) However I think what happens here is just how much reality you are prepared to dispense with... I believe myself and Chris are just happy to dispense with a great deal more than some... Could be that's a failing on our part could be it's not - who knows. Bottom line is we loved Indy 4 inspite of the points mentioned. No biggy.

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Friday, January 16, 2009 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Bottom line is we loved Indy 4 inspite of the points mentioned. No biggy.

Well put.

The still-hiding Chrisisall

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Friday, January 16, 2009 3:13 PM

Chris,

You're missing the point. The core of structure of sci-fi, it's not what if katie couric was a lesbian and did it with sarah palin on national tv instead of trying to corner her, that's not science fiction.

Each genre has its core questions and concepts. Fantasy is not inferior to Sci-Fi, it just has different base concepts. Indy four was enjoyable to watch, but impossible for me to be swept up in the illusion of. And please, at least give credit to the aforementioned suck for being a degenerating decline potc 1>2>3, and ditto with Sw.

the fact is that we were all jonesing for some jones, and so we enjoyed the movie. Doesn't mean it wasn't absurd.

Also, I found this annoying: aliens. I want god in my indy. I thought the temple had this problem because it abandoned god. I want it in there because that is the nature of the fantasy.

Like, for instance, the initiative, buffy, season four, would be fine in "reanimator the series," but in buffy, it was just sucking the life out of the show. This world is about vampires.

Indy is about ancient magic trapped in real archaeology. Aliens are sci-fi, and bad movie aliens are bad plan nine from outer space bad.

100 things they could have done here. I would have gone with the eye of horus. Great story, still missing object, of great assumed magical properties. Another one, the fifth mayan codex. Who knows what's in it, does it still exist? Again, the ancient inca texts, relics, anything. So, going to india was a stretch, and took us out of familiar territory for the western audience, but crystal skull just invented stuff out of whole cloth.

I enjoyed watching it, because it was non-stop, so it wasn't boring like matrix 2 which made me not see 3, but I enjoyed it in a random eye candy way. I mean, there's no good reason not to throw a t-rex in the middle ;)

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Friday, January 16, 2009 6:07 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
I tried to watch this tonight. Got maybe 3/4 of the way in and just had to take it out.

Such a shame!

THANK YOU! Gawd. I'm glad someone did that thing justice by taking it out of the DVD player!

:applause:

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Friday, January 16, 2009 7:12 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:

Also, I found this annoying: aliens. I want god in my indy. I thought the temple had this problem because it abandoned god. I want it in there because that is the nature of the fantasy.

*sigh*
Another dude that compartmentalizes his 'Verse.

Like God touches not the inter-dimensional alien.
Like God co-exists not with Shiva & the Hebrew God.

Get over your limitations in inclusion, DT.

The ONE Chrisisall

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Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:52 AM

Chris

I don't believe in God, but that's the nature of it, at least something having to do with archaeology and neolithic magic uncovered there, which does not include aliens.

It's like if Jesus appeared in a star wars movie and started performing miracles. Oh wait, I think we call that Matrix 3. Get my drift?

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Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:17 AM

Originally posted by dreamtrove:

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I want god in my indy. I thought the temple had this problem because it abandoned god. I want it in there because that is the nature of the fantasy.

But that's what Raiders of the Lost ark is. It's about the Ark hence the nature of the story must take that turn. However that is not the nature of 'Indiana Jones the character'. He's a guy who gets into a heaping set of adventure. There are no limitations to his adventures. For some reason when people think of Aliens they think it's a modern preoccupation. Not so. Ancient history is littered with references of beings from the heavens. The Indy formula was still adhered to in the Crystal Skull:

Ancient myths/lores (aliens) re-examined in the modern times (in this case the 50's) via an adventurer called Indianna Jones who goes some way into solving it's mysteries.

Raiders.
Ancient myth/lore (The Ark) re-examined in modern times (the 30's) via an adventurer called Indianna Jones who goes some way into solving it's mysteries.

Same principle.

Now I fully respect the fact that you may not have enjoyed Crystal Skull as much but I personally don't think they infringed upon any 'unwriten law' about what the ESEENCE of Indiana Jones is or is not.

In many way's anything around the time of the charcaters timescale is fair game to venture into. During the 50's there was massive interest in UFO's stands to reason they chose this narrative.

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Sunday, January 18, 2009 11:26 AM

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I don't believe in God

Heathen.

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, but that's the nature of it, at least something having to do with archaeology and neolithic magic uncovered there, which does not include aliens.

Prove to me that aliens have never visited and/or affected the cultural and/or physical landscape of times past.

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It's like if Jesus appeared in a star wars movie and started performing miracles. Oh wait, I think we call that Matrix 3. Get my drift?

Non sequitur; your facts are un-cordinated.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, January 18, 2009 11:28 AM

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He's a guy who gets into a heaping set of adventure. There are no limitations to his adventures. For some reason when people think of Aliens they think it's a modern preoccupation. Not so. Anicent history is littered with references of beings from the heavens. The Indy formula was still adhered to in the Crystal Skull:

Totally.

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In many way's anything around the time of the charcaters timescale is fair game to venture into. During the 50's there was massive interest in UFO's stands to reason they chose this narrative.

THANK YOU.

The backed-up Chrisisall

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Sunday, January 18, 2009 5:00 PM

I'm sorry, but I might be old, but the 1950s isn't ancient history :)

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Monday, January 19, 2009 4:58 AM

Neither are the 30's.

The reincarnated Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:47 AM

Though I am on record as not being a big fan of this installment (though I do like big parts of it), I have no problem with the Alien angle. For me, they fall into more-or-less the same category as Gods and other supernatural forces seen in the prior films, so that was no issue for me. And it did reflect the progression in timeframe - the serieals done/set in the 30's often dealt with the supernatural, often while fighting Nazi's. The serials set or made in the 50's dealth with Commies and Aliens, so it seemed a natural progression to me.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:51 AM

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I'm sorry, but I might be old, but the 1950s isn't ancient history :)

No -one said it was... However it will be. One day.

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Friday, January 23, 2009 3:23 PM

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And the reason the fridge is dumb goes far beyond physics.

God likes Indy, hence the no melting or broken bones or dying part.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Saturday, January 24, 2009 3:34 PM

TDBROWN

I was at Blockbuster the other day, and found this amazing Indiana jones collector's case for the movies. It's made of resin, and it's a battered old suitcase, with Indy's jacket, and whip draped over it, with his hat sitting on top. Despite the photo in the link, it does not come with the films.

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/indiana-jones-dvd-display-ca
se.php

It was for this reason, and this reason alone, that I broke down and got the second and fourth Indiana Jones Movies. I managed to sit through the latest one in the Theater, but felt no desire to see it again. One good thing though... I didn't feel nearly as ripped off by it as I did by "The Temple of Doom".

ps: The Collector's Case had been originally priced at $39,95, but I got it for $10, still in the box! The salesman said it was priced at Cost. Woo-hoo!

"Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one." -Mal

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Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:17 PM

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I got it for $10

Surely not!

*Runs to local Blockbuster*

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Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:04 PM

America loves a winner!

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The Collector's Case had been originally priced at $39,95, but I got it for $10, still in the box! The salesman said it was priced at Cost. Woo-hoo!

That's a friggin deal.

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Sunday, January 25, 2009 3:33 PM

TDBROWN

Yup... for once, I was lucky. They had two left. One was damaged and on display. The other.... Mine!

"Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one." -Mal

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Sunday, January 25, 2009 3:50 PM