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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
It's hardly stealing if the product isn't for sale.

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Originally posted by Calhoun:
How/why did Eliza Dusku naked get mixed into the title of this thread? weird.

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Haken wrote:
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I'm downloading as I type this. Anyone watch it yet? Whats the verdict?

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
If I'm a thief, sobeit. I have no intention of buying a dvd, so no sale is lost. I put Eliza up there because I'm not going to get into a DH thread. I just got caught up on heroes. I like Sylar, but could someone kill the petrellis already?

Oh, and ECG, spare me. Filesharing? Really? Scan the posts on this forum sometime. From the random talk of drugs, trafficking, identity fraud, weapons smuggling and illegal modification, anarchy, revolution, even terrorism?? And you're concerned with filesharing. Quaint.

Oh, and for any pathetic fool who thinks that they are supporting art by purchasing dvds, etc: a tiny percentage of the revenue goes to producing the art, paying people salaries, almost all of it goes to line the pockets of MSM fatcats. I think we all agreed a long time ago they were the enemy.

Somewhere on the other side of don't bite the hand that feeds you someone should have written "don't eat from the hand that beats you."

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First, having talked to distributors, I can tell you straight up that
if a show has had too much online exposure and too many downloads, if
it's too much out there, they won't distribute it because the market
that would want to see it already has. So you're helping to destroy
any chance of a show getting picked up. The logic of "well if I watch
it that'll help to create a market for that show" is a convenient
untruth downloaders tell themselves that has not once ever been
validated. It just never happens. It's just a justification.

Second, when you download a show (and most of the shows that are
downloaded don't fall into the category of "there's no other way to
get it," they're downloads of popular shows and movies, so lets
dispense with THAT bit of nonsense right off the bat...it's not just
that you're denying the producers/distributors of that movie or TV
show the "price" of the DVD (or the commercials not watched). You're
also having a direct impact on the creative people who made that show,
and taking from them as well.

Actors, writers and directors get paid a fee to make a project, and
then they get residuals, which are not a bonus, they are deferred
compensation. If the show does well, they share in that; if the show
tanks, they share the risk. When shows are downloaded free, those
creative people get nothing.

Why should this matter? Residuals are what keeps actors and writers
and directors able to survive the lean periods between jobs, and those
are legion. Those periods can last a year or two sometimes, during
which your ONLY source of revenue is residuals. They help to insure
that the talent pool is available when needed and not out working day
jobs to make ends meet.

Free downloading ultimately destroys the financial structure for
artists of all kinds, and will, if left unchecked, eventually make it
impossible for any artist to make a living doing what they do.

Downloaders think there's no difference between data and
entertainment, that everything should be free. Great, it's free to
YOU. Now, how do you propose paying the people who produce these
shows at the costs of millions of dollars, and the people who need to
put food on the plate when they are getting nothing in return?

It's theft. Sorry. Color it any way you want, it's stealing: by the
law, and by the ethics involved. Everything else you've said is just
justification to cover bad behavior.

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Originally posted by Calhoun:
I'm downloading as I type this. Anyone watch it yet? Whats the verdict?

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ecgordon wrote:
Saturday, April 18, 2009 07:48

I assume anyone who frequents this forum is a fan of Firefly and/or Serenity. Would you be okay with everyone in the future just downloading the series and movie, denying Joss and all others involved in the production the meager residuals they richly deserve? If your answer to that is yes then I don't suppose there is much point in continuing the debate.

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Originally posted by piratenews:


SWAT teams will raid libraries worldwide, all librarians to be jailed for loaning media without paying royalties to lawyers of copyright holders.

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Originally posted by stinkingrose:
Wasn't this supposed to be about a pilot episode?

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Craprica 50 up, 1 down love it hate it

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Craprica is a contemptuous reference to the future TV series ‘Caprica’, a prequel to the canceled sci-fi TV series ‘Battlestar Galactica’. Discriminating science fiction fans expect the prequel to be canceled at the end of its first season.

The prequel is promoted as futuristic and delivering all of the passion, intrigue political backbiting, family conflict, etc. of ‘Battlestar Galactica’.

Disappointed, former fans of ‘Battlestar Galactica’, however, interpret the prequel’s promotions as doublespeak for a soap opera thinly disguised as a science fiction drama. These former fans expect the prequel to including all of the bad science, contrived shipper angst, nihilism, complete disregard for story continuity, and unresolved plot holes of the original show.
After watching what that douche ex machinist did to ‘Battlestar Galactica’, I wouldn’t waste my time watching Craprica.

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