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Have any of you Planet of the Apes movies peeps seen this???

The music was obviously added to give us something to listen to, but this ending would have totally bummed me!!!

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Yeah, I seen it for the first time when I purchased the Blu-Ray. Dark, dark stuff. Pretty cool though.

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Now, should I get the series? I don't remember it very well, 1974 was a LONG time ago now...


The laughing Chrisisall

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Of course you should. Pure escapist tv at its best. Roddy Mcdowall shines as Galen.
The only other 14 episode show to equal it is Firefly.

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Awesome! If you read the reviews on Amazon the majority of them are 5 star reviews(from Ape fans).

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I really do enjoy it more than the film sequels. Hope you dig it.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

Sonisall's main beef with the movies (however much they fascinate him) is that only Battle has a *somewhat* happy ending.
So from what I've read, he's gonna like this series a lot, and I'm confident I will as well.

Then after, I'll write a short story for him detailing how Virdon & Burke get back home to give it an ending for him. At that point, I'll shoot you a copy of it to see if it meets with your approval.
I did it for him once before, when a novel he was reading (and that he was really INTO) had a crappy ending. I re-wrote the last two chapters for him to make it more interesting & give it a sense of coming full-circle from the beginning.

One other thing, I have a hazy memory of Burke doing some Karate-ish fighting back then- it being the height of the Kung Fu Craze... that'll be fun.

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Thanks for being an APES fan on a Firefly site.

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Thanks for being an APES fan on a Firefly site.

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No prob.
Just don't ask me to watch that awful TV series of Logan's Run!

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Hey dude, I thought ya might get a kick outta this:


I made that mask from scratch back in the day when I was 14- made plaster molds, poured latex & everything. Real hair wig, human skull model teeth...

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That's cool. Pretty decent for a 14 year old. You had the skills even back in the day. You would have been a god to my brother and I in the 70's. We used to craft our own spook yard The weekend prior to Halloween with friends. We usually bought scary masks but constructed everything else. Fake blood(Karo syrup food coloring), monster hands(latex gloves with a a little glue and sawdust) and of course our backyard. One year a friend of my brother was a werewolf, and we had him chained to our shed. Scarier than anything you would see in the movies I kid you not. Neighborhood kids had a blast, but the youngens were usually too frightened to go all the way through. Then after our little production we would have cider and donuts. Sorry to ramble.

Back to the POTA series, There are a handful of scripts that were never filmed. You can download most of the teleplays to read. I am curious to read the original pilot by Rod Serling.




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So, if the series is set in 3085 & the humans talk... is this before the humans somehow got it into their genes (presumably through lingering radiation, possibly in something only humans had contact with or ate) to lose IQ points & vocal ability in the brain?
Or is this an altered timeline that follows "Battle For The Planet Of The Apes", where somehow humans retained some small measure of respect & intelligence in the events that unfolded during the centuries?

Or is it a different timeline ALLTOGETHER???

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It's a bit of give and take my friend. If you put into continuity any of the Apes films and tv series you will always have large alterations in the timeline. The only two ape films to work well together are the first film and Beneath. so for the movies of course it would be(chronologically) Escape, Conquest, Battle, tv series, first film, and Beneath being the absolute end of the Planet of the Apes.
The Tv series is a little tricky to fit in because there is a bit of conflicting happenings that are mentioned in the later films. In the tv series there is a dog in the first episode(dogs shouldn't exist in the ape realm) there is a Zaius(I'd like to think a great ancestor to the Zaius in the original film not the same one). So it is kind of confusing.


I think the Ape tv series can fit into the timeline but I will simplify it to state my point.
The way I view it is this:
After the end of the world(as humans know it) Apes are the dominant species of about 2 to 1. Apes find humans helpful for work so they let them live, but they run the show and kill any humans at will if they so choose. Humans can still speak but have become simpletons more or less because no education is offered them. They are also aware that apes rule the land and are fearful of them.

Fast forward a thousand years. Apes consider humans a hazard (because their numbers were growing) and kill them on sight. Through the generations of being hunted and treated like wild animals always on the run the humans lost the concept of language and speech.

All I can say is this, don't work too hard at trying to fit the pieces together because it's one confusing puzzle. Take the Apes tv series for what it is. Kick back and enjoy



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Serling's 1st & 2nd episode scripts prolly seemed too "cerebral" or something. I wanna read 'em too.

I also did a Halloween spook house thing in my basement as a kid. It was only scary for the younger ones, though.

Amazon tells me the POTA series shipped already!!! Cool beans.

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Take the Apes tv series for what it is. Kick back and enjoy

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Awaiting Mark Lenard & Lalo Schifrin doin' their thing...

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Gladiators was fine, but The Trap was awesome! Mark Lenard was a truly great actor. Sonisall said The Good Seeds was the best yet, but he went ahead of me on that one.

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Oh yes 'The Trap'. I love that episode. You're right about Lenard, his portrayal of Urko(especially in The Trap) was downright inspiring. You can just feel his hatred of humankind.
Reminds me of a childhood favorite film -Hell in the Pacific -with Lee Marvin.
The Good Seeds is a perfectly fine episode(As I said I don't think there is a bad episode in the bunch) but my other favorites are:
-Tomorrows Tide
-The Legacy
-The Horse Race
and just for the sake of a goofier episode
-Up Above the World so High.

Glad your enjoying it Chris. I may have to break my tradition of watching the series once annually just to revisit the Planet of the Apes.

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The Legacy was great, even though I had a couple of "Landru" moments...

Curiously though, Tomorrow's Tide didn't do much for me. The big toy shark may have had something to do with it...

The Surgeon, on the other hand, was excellent! Same director as The Trap, I noticed. Sonisall noted a few "Star Trek sounding" musical ques. Very good character interaction.

So far, a very good call "ordering" this human to get it- thanks OP.

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Yeah. It's a very good series. I usually watch it once a year(Friday nights paired with Kolchack the Night Stalker if possible). Just a geeky tradition I have.
Tomorrow's Tide holds a lot of nostalgia for me, so I count that as a favorite.
I really wish the series would have continued. 14 episodes just isn't nearly enough to justify such a cool concept and untold ideas for the astronauts and Galen.

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The Interrogation was another winner. Once again, Urko embraces the Dark Side. It was a hoot to see Galen's parents too.
The Tyrant was both dark & funny... how'd they get away with that? But Sonisall didn't like that that kid got killed...
The Cure was well done too.

*sob* only 2 left to go...

This must have been a real expensive show to produce- the lighting & photography are definitely movie-quality.

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I'm still shocked that this show looks so great on dvd. To be honest on my 27" CRT tv it rivals HD reference quality material in 1080P.
I think the budget was about 1 mil an episode. In 1974 that was pretty steep.
When I got the series in 2001, it was the first time I had seen every episode. As a kid I loved it, and thought it may not hold up. Wrong! When I finished it was my new favorite sci-fi series(right behind Star Trek).

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When I finished it was my new favorite sci-fi series(right behind Star Trek).

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This is the end. Last ep.
Sadness ensues.

There is no Ape future except what we make for ourselves.

In writing, or in graphic novel, I *will* finish this story. For me, for Sonisaal, and other fans.

I swear it!

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Virdon, and Burke await their fate. Please write them a suitable ending.

What did you and Sonisall think of the series overall?

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What did you and Sonisall think of the series overall?

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