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From AnonymousPoster! (MY RESPONSE)

POSTED BY: ANONYMOUSPOSTER
UPDATED: Friday, October 15, 2004 20:37
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Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:46 AM

I don't know why so many of you are hating on me. What could I possible have done to deserve all of that. I was simply trying to let you know about various different things. My intentions were to be generous to my brothers and sisters in the world of scifi fandom. I'm sorry I forgot to give the name of the sources. I was just trying to do a nice thing for all of you.

I guess the old saying is true, No good deed every goes unpunished.

This will be my last thread on Fireflyfans.net. In fact I'll never post anything on this website again.

To all of you broancoats who actually did enjoy the threads, thank you for your appreciation! The rest of you are just mean-spirited jerks.

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Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:54 AM

THEGREYJEDI

Perhaps it was merely your approach to the situation. If you had posted links instead of the entire articles, you may have met with a better reaction.

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Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:59 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Quote:
Originally posted by AnonymousPoster:
I don't know why so many of you are hating on me. What could I possible have done to deserve all of that. I was simply trying to let you know about various different things.

To all of you broancoats who actually did enjoy the threads, thank you for your appreciation! The rest of you are just mean-spirited jerks.

Kiddo, I want to apologise, I really do, but those that posted a response to you were pointing out valid points.

Your responses, a little tetchy in some cases, were the relevant part of the threads you started. They were your thoughts, they were the point.

Check out *gulp* the political threads - they frequently start with an article post (usually by link but not exclusively), but with the poster's thoughts. Posting a two page article with no comment doesn't start a thread. Posting your view on the subject does that.

If you're genuine that this response is driving you off the board AP, then I can apologise in the words of Blair, but try engaging in the debate a while, see how it goes.

"I threw up on your bed"

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Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:39 PM

SOUPCATCHER

I'm sorry that you feel you were hated on. The 16 threads that you started over the past few days have contributed thousands of words to this site. It is unclear to me how many of these words were your own.

I come to this site to virtually sit down with fireflyfans and share a dialogue over a cup of coffee. I felt like you sat down at the table and dumped out a backpack full of magazines and books.

I would like to talk to you about your thoughts. I have no problem with using a linked article to jump start the discussion. But at the end of the day I'm more interested in what you have to say than in what someone else had to say elsewhere on the web.

There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.

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Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:22 PM

TENTHCREWMEMBER

Could you please just make it stranger? Stranger. Odder. Could be weirder. More bizarre. How about uncanny?

I'd feel sorry for him/her/whatever, except I have little sympathy when someone says to the effect, "Let's move this in a not-AP's-fault direction."

AP (if you are still reading this thread):
Sometimes you need to take a step back and look at what you've said or done (or didn't say or do) that may have caused such kneejerk reactions from people. Keep in mind, this place, this fansite, is alot like a home. In a home people come to expect certain behaviors and tend to take offense at things that do not fall into their paradigm. While you may have had the best intentions, and we can accept that, you have to take the criticism and realize that what works elsewhere does not necessarily work here. Learn and grow with the community. Don't ostricise (sp?) yourself simply because your methodology has made waves. Does a surfer quit surfing because he wiped out once, twice, a hundred times and everyone else laughed? Not if he intends to be part of that culture.

Safest way to post is to be upfront about why you are posting what you are posting. If you leave it to others to decide your intent, you will oft find your good deeds being punished.

If nothing else, this is a good lesson for others, even if you fail to ever read this.

Cilantr

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Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:40 PM

SUCCATASH

During my time on this board I've seen posts that show pictures of a mutilated dead woman, and some really really disgusting porn -- and they get moved to Troll County. (Ok, now everyone will run off and look...)

AP's posts are harmless. Not obscene, not hateful discrimination, and not spam, such as "See your website in Google for $19.95!"

His posts shouldn't be moved to troll county, in my opinion. But if folks want to yell at him, that's perfectly fine too. IMO.

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Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:17 PM

TENTHCREWMEMBER

Could you please just make it stranger? Stranger. Odder. Could be weirder. More bizarre. How about uncanny?

Glad I missed all that nonsense (really a dead...nevermind) and this of course pales in comparison. Also glad there is another level head out there in the 'Verse.

In that vein, I, for one, am not yelling. Trying to educate, actually. However, if AP's gonna run away and cry "not me!" then my sympathies end there, is all.

If I believed AP was malicious, I'd be harping along with the chorus. Hell, I worry about what people will think everytime I post, but only up until I click the post button. Then it is que sera. I'd rather people say "Hey! Stop that!" and I find out why rather than be ignored, I s'pose, but that's just me.

Firefly fans are still the best, despite this hiccup, I believe. Again, that's just me.

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Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:18 PM

JENDANDY

Quote:
Originally posted by Succatash:

During my time on this board I've seen posts that show pictures of a mutilated dead woman, and some really really disgusting porn -- and they get moved to Troll County. (Ok, now everyone will run off and look...)

That's more than a little disturbing. Where's the 'shocked' smiley when I need it?

AP's posts were fine, I guess...should have had links instead of those long-ass messages though. I for one, assumed he was a troll the first day, simply because he posted, I think someone said 8 posts in under an hour. Interesting to other scifi fans probably but also a bit much. Ahh well...

Sig Rebel

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Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:29 PM

SUCCATASH

Are you disturbed because that stuff has been posted here, or because "everyone will run off and look..." ??

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Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:34 PM

SERGEANTX

This is funny. One thing I can say for Anon's threads, they're all aptly titled. In fact, I didn't even know there was a problem because all the topics were clearly about something that had nothing to do with Firefly. I hadn't even looked at any before this little controversy raised the issue. If anon is a troll, he(she) is a troll easily ignored, so unless Haken just doesn't have the hard drive space to waste, I don't see the issue.

SergeantX

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Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:37 PM

CAPNRAHN

I am with Tash here - AP was overzealous at the most - calling someone a TROLL is really harsh these days. Especially making a whole thread about it.

All his/her post were about other sci-fi subjects. AP in no way indicated ownership/creatorship of the info. A mistake was made by AP, but I feel that some here overreacted.

In addition - because he/she did not post the way you {universal 'you', no-one specfic} would do it is a bit of a - well narrow perspective.

No wonder he/she got his/her feelings hurt.

So much for free speech and empathy.

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

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Thursday, October 14, 2004 5:45 PM

THEREALME

Anon, you should stay.

I am not "hating" you in any way.

I remain annoyed that you posted other folks' stuff in such a way that I thought they were your work. That is a sore point with me. But if it was an oversight or honest mistake, no problem.

I also think you should have stuck them in "Other SF Series". But maybe you thought "General Discussions" was for ANYTHING, not "General Discussions" about Firefly.

Hating? No.

Check out some of the threads here, and give us your opinions.

The Real Me

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Friday, October 15, 2004 2:16 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Sorry you feel the need to leave Anon, and I hope you will change your mind.

I do not however rescind what I said; non Firefly related topics should be in Other Sci Fi or Talk Story, not in General Firefly.

I did read a couple of your threads, but not nearly all of them. Most were entirely too long to devote the time to for me personally. If other enjoyed them, that's great.

I don't think you are a troll, as you have done nothing intentionally that I can see to disrupt this board. I apologize for my fellow Browncoats that may have overreacted a bit, but I think you will find as a whole we are a passionate lot and may not always approach things in the most logical of manners.

I hope you will reconsider leaving, but I also hope you might take the advise of those of us that have been here awhile and be a bit more careful on what you post and where.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Friday, October 15, 2004 5:57 AM

KELLAINA

So I don't come in here for one day and look what happens

. I don't want to re-hash everything but after reading this thread and the other one I feel the need to speak my piece (peace?).

To the Anonymous Poster:

No one is trying to 'hate on you.' They were just pointing out ways to help you better participate in our community. And to help you avoid any nasty confrontations with the original authors. You could call it a good deed in return for your good deed (in other words - not punishment).

I was the one who pointed out in one of your threads the speed at which you were posting (at the time it was 8 in under an hour). This was not meant to insult you. At the time the speed and length of the posts made me kind of suspicious of your intentions. All that was required was a simple explanation, which you have since given (although you could have done without the name calling).

Anyway the point of my post is to say, please don't stay away. These are a great group of folks to discuss pretty much anything under the (Blue) Sun with. If you do choose to stay away however, all I can say is that it's your loss.

Kel

*edited because some of it came across a bit snarkier than I had intended

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Friday, October 15, 2004 1:06 PM

DESANGRO

Quote:
Originally posted by Succatash:

During my time on this board I've seen posts that show pictures of a mutilated dead woman, and some really really disgusting porn -- and they get moved to Troll County. (Ok, now everyone will run off and look...)

A... a mutilated dead woman?! Did someone tell the FBI about this? It sounds sick... and definitely felonious.

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Friday, October 15, 2004 1:30 PM

SUCCATASH

Now I really regret mentioning that. To clarify, and hopefully forever drop the matter, they were police photos from the 1930's of a terrible murder. Not something your everyday Firefly fan wants to see.

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Friday, October 15, 2004 3:51 PM

DESANGRO

Oh, okay. Thanks for clarifying that.

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Friday, October 15, 2004 8:37 PM

SIGMANUNKI

Well, I don't read the forums for a bit and looky what's happened.

To AP, figure out what your part in all this was. No-one is totally innocent.

I believe that it's not what you post, but *how* you post. I've committed this crime before and have become more and more careful over time about the words that I type (read: How people will interpret them.). I for one can atest to the fact that this has smoothed over the responses to my posts greatly.

It's all about learning and growing. After all, running away from your problems never solves anything and you learn nothing as well.

So, my advice is to stay, learn and grow. But, of course, the choice is yours.

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