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Currently running Sci-Fi shows I'm NOT watching...

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Saturday, October 1, 2016 12:31 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Some because they never interested me, others because I just never got 'hooked' on them, and some I'd might like to watch, just don't have the time.

Legends of Tomorrow

Arrow

Walking Dead

Fear the Walking Dead

The Strain ...

( Pretty much any series which involves folks eating other folks )


Stopped watching -

Super Girl

SHIELD

... to be continued.

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Saturday, October 1, 2016 1:31 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


I only ever watched the first episode of The Walking Dead, and that was a few years ago on Netflix. Never felt the inclination to continue. Haven't watched The Strain or FtWD either.

Watched about half of Legends of Tomorrow, but stopped at the same time I stopped watching Arrow, The Flash & Supergirl, and will not be watching any of those this season.

Not sure if I will continue with SHIELD. Not thrilled that they introduced Ghost Rider, which doesn't seem to fit with the rest of their characters and scenarios.



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Saturday, October 1, 2016 2:23 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


SHIELD seems to be running reruns on another broadcast channel, looks like episodes I have missed - which would be a bunch. I might catch up on them if I can conjure the schedule.

Are you not watching Izombie?

With Agent Carter done, I'll try to catch Conviction with Hayley Atwell.

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Saturday, October 1, 2016 2:46 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


iZombie has been held for mid-season, so the only CW show I'll be watching this fall is Jane the Virgin.

Haley is the only reason I'll check out Conviction, but most of my viewing this year will be on Hulu, except for Jane and Elementary, since Hulu won't be offering any CW or CBS shows.



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Saturday, October 1, 2016 3:09 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
SHIELD seems to be running reruns on another broadcast channel, looks like episodes I have missed - which would be a bunch. I might catch up on them if I can conjure the schedule.


I guess it is in syndication now. The pilot episode will run at 5pm (Central) today on a secondary channel broadcast by the local FOX affiliate, and will also have eps on Wednesdays. Just search TVGuide, TV.com, TitanTV, or whatever other database you use for time and channel in your area.



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Saturday, October 1, 2016 4:07 PM

WISHIMAY


LOVED the season ender for IZombie. Interested to see where they are going with that.

I also don't know if I wanna watch SHIELD this season. Lots of iffy plot lines, but I'll check it out every now and then.

It's not sci-fi but "Bull" seems okay. Don't know how many trials they are capable of doing or where they can go with the series, though. It's like they mashed House without the jerk, The Practice, and Lie to Me together.
Less formulaic than some.

Add Lethal Weapon and that's my whole network viewing line-up.

Holding my breath for season 3 of Sherlock though. Me and the kiddo think they are going to kill of Mycroft. Someone has to pay for Magnussen. Literally counting the days 'till X-mas for once.

Oh, and I'll check out the Gilmore Girls thing on Netflix, but more out of curiosity than desire.

Slim pickin's these days.


ANYONE KNOW IF "STRANGER THINGS" on netflix is any good?

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Saturday, October 1, 2016 4:26 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
ANYONE KNOW IF "STRANGER THINGS" on netflix is any good?


I thought it was okay, but everybody else seems to think it's great. It's only 8 episodes, so not a big waste of time even if you don't care for it.

Even those praising it are still acknowledging how derivative it is of a lot of 80s movies.



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Saturday, October 1, 2016 7:39 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Some because they never interested me, others because I just never got 'hooked' on them, and some I'd might like to watch, just don't have the time.

Legends of Tomorrow

Arrow

Walking Dead

Fear the Walking Dead

The Strain ...

( Pretty much any series which involves folks eating other folks )


Stopped watching -

Super Girl

SHIELD

... to be continued.



Me too rappy I don't watch any of those shows. Let's face it, most syfy sucks.

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Saturday, October 1, 2016 7:48 PM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
ANYONE KNOW IF "STRANGER THINGS" on netflix is any good?


I thought it was okay, but everybody else seems to think it's great. It's only 8 episodes, so not a big waste of time even if you don't care for it.

Even those praising it are still acknowledging how derivative it is of a lot of 80s movies.





Most of those I know praise it because it is so derivative. I thought it was okay, worth a watch.

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Sunday, October 2, 2016 10:42 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Wish - Stranger Things is excellent. More so if you're old enough to remember the 80's, but that's not all that key to the story itself. Aside from some very good acting , I think much of the success of S.T. was that no one really saw it coming. It was just kinda on, and folks were blown away w/ the whole story. Also, Millie Bobby Brown , the little girl from the series - Intruders , is excellent. ( If you can , go find that show too.. very creepy )

Netflix is where I'm watching most of my t.v. , it seems. Regarding Sci-fi , there's the Marvel array of shows - Jessica Jones, Daredevil and now just dropped - Luke Cage. VERY well done, all of them !!

I've also gotten into Marco Polo, if you're into that sort of historical stuff. Which I am.

As for The Flash, I'm not so caught up with this season, but haven't totally abandoned it - yet.

Big fan of i-zombie.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, October 2, 2016 2:07 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
iZombie has been held for mid-season, so the only CW show I'll be watching this fall is Jane the Virgin.

Haley is the only reason I'll check out Conviction, but most of my viewing this year will be on Hulu, except for Jane and Elementary, since Hulu won't be offering any CW or CBS shows.


Elementary season starts tonight, right?

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Sunday, October 2, 2016 2:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
It's not sci-fi but "Bull" seems okay. Don't know how many trials they are capable of doing or where they can go with the series, though. It's like they mashed House without the jerk, The Practice, and Lie to Me together.
Less formulaic than some.


The Bull (starring the Original Mr. Jessica Alba) second episode was pre-empted for me locally, some local show on.

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Sunday, October 2, 2016 2:13 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Elementary season starts tonight, right?


Yes. I'll be watching live tonight unless I'm reading and lose track of time. Or watching Luke Cage and forget.



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Sunday, October 2, 2016 5:00 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

The Bull second episode was pre-empted for me



I watch them on CBS online, I rarely even turn the actual tv on. The kiddo watches stuff on PBS and that's it.

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Monday, October 3, 2016 7:19 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Timeless does look interesting enough for me to check out.
And Frequency looks like a bit of sci-fi, at least in the concept.

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Monday, October 3, 2016 9:09 PM

MOOSE


I enjoyed the movie, so I'll give Frequency a shot.

Looks like Time Travel is "the" thing this season.
Along with Frequency and Timeless, there's also Time After Time and the comedy Making History.








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Monday, October 3, 2016 9:26 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Timeless



TOTALLY forgot about that one. Will have to, too. NBC sys the premiere is today (Monday) so great timing!

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Tuesday, October 4, 2016 7:43 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
I enjoyed the movie, so I'll give Frequency a shot.

Looks like Time Travel is "the" thing this season.
Along with Frequency and Timeless, there's also Time After Time and the comedy Making History.


I was thinking Frequency was a bit techno - sharing a bit with White Noise, and the Forest Whittaker bit in Phenomenon. And Nathan was in White Noise 2. In theory these might have commonality with The Ring, but the vibe was waaay different.

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Thursday, October 6, 2016 7:33 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
I enjoyed the movie, so I'll give Frequency a shot.

Looks like Time Travel is "the" thing this season.
Along with Frequency and Timeless, there's also Time After Time and the comedy Making History.


I was thinking Frequency was a bit techno - sharing a bit with White Noise, and the Forest Whittaker bit in Phenomenon. And Nathan was in White Noise 2. In theory these might have commonality with The Ring, but the vibe was waaay different.


Anybody else watch it?

I did enjoy it, but the ending (and set-up for future episodes)

Select to view spoiler:



seemed a bit like Quantum Leap - they might try to get back to the original timeline. Some movies have done that, like Sound of Thunder or Butterfly Effect, but they didn't have 26 installments per year.


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Sunday, October 9, 2016 10:19 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Speaking of time travel flicks, I generally try to avoid them. Save , of course, for Dr Who. I love how they have 'fixed points 'in time, which simply cannot be altered. It avoids certain Grandfather scenarios, which almost always end poorly.

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Sunday, October 9, 2016 12:45 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


I watched Timeless on Hulu yesterday, might check out a few more eps, but it won't be live. I liked the Time After Time movie, more for the actors involved than the plot, but I'll still check the show out for at least one episode.

Most of the shows I've liked the past year or so are currently on hiatus. Those include Orphan Black, Humans, Mr. Robot, The Expanse, and 12 Monkeys. Also, Black Mirror returns to Netflix Oct 21, and they've already announced another season beyond that.

I realize this thread is about shows we're NOT watching, but no reason we can't balance that out with stuff that's worth watching. In my opinion at least.



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Monday, October 10, 2016 3:52 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Thanks for the balance. Black Mirror ? Not heard of that one, so now I have something new to check out.

And yeah, most of what you posted, I'm also watching, though I can't say the same for 12 Monkeys or Humans. I'll probably give Humans a look see.

Also... I just found out You, Me and the Apocalypse won't be returning !! Another 1 and done masterpiece

NOOOOO!!!! Dammit !

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Monday, October 10, 2016 4:25 PM

MOOSE


Didn't realize Black Mirror is on Netflix, thanks!
I've only seen an episode or two in crap quality on YouTube.

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Monday, October 10, 2016 6:28 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Black Mirror was (is?) a UK show, pretty sure it wasn't BBC, maybe ITV or Sky. There were just 3 episodes each in the first two seasons, then a Christmas special. Now it is produced by Netflix.

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Monday, October 10, 2016 7:18 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Bummed abut no more You, Me, and the Apocalypse.

Another time travel film I was referencing but forgot was Bill & Ted.

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Monday, October 10, 2016 11:12 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
Black Mirror was (is?) a UK show, pretty sure it wasn't BBC, maybe ITV or Sky. There were just 3 episodes each in the first two seasons, then a Christmas special. Now it is produced by Netflix.



Odd show. More of a Twilight Zone type of format, with each episode ( so far ) being a stand alone story. Really edgy stuff, too. Right off the bat, the kidnapping and all, eghads.

Select to view spoiler:


How could no one tell the ringed finger wasn't from a young woman ? I mean really, it's not a minor detail. Sure, we see what we want to see sometimes, but even so...


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Monday, October 17, 2016 11:24 PM

RIVERLOVE


'Timeless' is a pretty good show. I like the way it's showing changes to the original timeline created by their actions in the past. The "Lincoln" episode was quite moving.

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Wednesday, October 19, 2016 6:48 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
'Timeless' is a pretty good show. I like the way it's showing changes to the original timeline created by their actions in the past. The "Lincoln" episode was quite moving.



You're not saying much, but enough to get me interested.

Dammit.

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Wednesday, October 19, 2016 8:33 PM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
'Timeless' is a pretty good show. I like the way it's showing changes to the original timeline created by their actions in the past. The "Lincoln" episode was quite moving.



You're not saying much, but enough to get me interested.

Dammit.



Time Travel ..... check
Sexy Girl(s) ..... check
Shootings and Killings ..... check
Sinister Govt./Big Corp. entity w/ unknown ulterior motive ..... check
Time paradoxes galore ..... check
Murderous villain w/ unknown goal(s) ..... check
Rugged Team Leader a bit of a scoundrel ..... check
Good (for tv) historical accuracy ..... check

What more could you want?

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Wednesday, October 19, 2016 10:05 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Do we get the all important fight w/ one's grandfather, killing them, thus never existing to be able to go back into time to meet / fight / kill in the first place?

I love it when that happens !


It'll probably be the last episode.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 19, 2016 10:53 PM

MOOSE


Anyone seen Frequency yet?

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Thursday, October 20, 2016 6:20 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
Anyone seen Frequency yet?



Didn't even know of it until now.

I never did see the movie, from start to finish. Caught parts of it, here and there, to get the gist of it, but I'm sure I missed some key moments.

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Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
Anyone seen Frequency yet?


Yes.
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I have watched the first 2 episodes. I may have missed a third.
I like it better than Timeless - but then Timeless also has a schedule conflict with another show I've watched.
They are working faithfully with the cause-effect cycle, and I have not conjured how the storyline will play out yet, the mysteries. I want more. But you must pay attention.

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Thursday, October 27, 2016 1:54 PM

WISHIMAY


I tried to watch Frequency. Just can't. I dunno, it feels more personal and affective than Timeless. Timeless is a "what if" kind of fun, but I wish they would stop meeting up with Goran's character EVERY episode for no reason...(still want to call him "Luca" from ER)

Have watched all but one of the Stranger Things, and find it interesting, but I have one complaint.

THEY KILL OFF THE CHIC WITH GLASSES.

I used to BE her. Seriously. Same hairdo, same glasses, same colors, same body type. Same skinny-ass traitor "friend" that used me as a cover when she wanted to screw a guy I actually liked first.

The skinny bitch needed to die. Blowing off a fried and neglecting her for a guy??? She should have been red-shirted, not fought over and turned heroine...

Yep, still pisses me off today The good news is, in real life "skinny bitch" has her spouse leave her, he got custody of the kid, she gained 100 lbs and looks like the spitting image of her MOTHER. Karma works some days

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Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:06 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
'Timeless' is a pretty good show. I like the way it's showing changes to the original timeline created by their actions in the past. The "Lincoln" episode was quite moving.



You're not saying much, but enough to get me interested.

Dammit.



Time Travel ..... check
Sexy Girl(s) ..... check
Shootings and Killings ..... check
Sinister Govt./Big Corp. entity w/ unknown ulterior motive ..... check
Time paradoxes galore ..... check
Murderous villain w/ unknown goal(s) ..... check
Rugged Team Leader a bit of a scoundrel ..... check
Good (for tv) historical accuracy ..... check

What more could you want?



So I'm giving it a chance now. Much of what you say is spot on. Now, my main problem is the ...well, I'll go w/ the Butterfly effect. On the one hand they openly state their intent to ' not knock over a salt shaker ' so as to not change anything down the time line , but then...COMPLETELY CHANGE HISTORY IN NOT SMALL WAYS !! Good grief! Are these folks true imbeciles ?

This asinine attitude.. " But I love her... I MUST do something, no matter what the cost ! " is really grating me , and I'm assuming it'll only get worse with more episodes.

At least Sam and Al tried to FIX things, when Sam leaped from time to time...


THIS is why I get so turned off w/ time travel shows. ( those which don't include FIXED points, or Time Lords, of course )


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:52 PM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

So I'm giving it a chance now. Much of what you say is spot on. Now, my main problem is the ...well, I'll go w/ the Butterfly effect. On the one hand they openly state their intent to ' not knock over a salt shaker ' so as to not change anything down the time line , but then...COMPLETELY CHANGE HISTORY IN NOT SMALL WAYS !! Good grief! Are these folks true imbeciles ?

This asinine attitude.. " But I love her... I MUST do something, no matter what the cost ! " is really grating me , and I'm assuming it'll only get worse with more episodes.

At least Sam and Al tried to FIX things, when Sam leaped from time to time...


THIS is why I get so turned off w/ time travel shows. ( those which don't include FIXED points, or Time Lords, of course )


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall


The beauty of time travel is that events that have been changed in the past that create paradoxes in the present can at some point be undone. "Timeless" will no doubt keep screwing around with the past, and paradoxes will keep occurring. It might all be fixed by going back and preventing the creation of the time machines. It's network tv. I have no great expectations of anything, but so far, after 4 episodes, I'm finding it entertaining.

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Thursday, October 27, 2016 6:27 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


The most recent Timeless should have created more of a difference than just an extra James Bond movie. They got Von Braun to the allies almost a year before the war was over rather than afterwards. It would make sense for there to be an infinite number of changes, but how would they know unless they reviewed all of the world's history from that point until the present? They can't do that of course, since the review would have to be done by either Lucy, Rufus, or Wyatt, and that would bring the story to a halt for an episode in between each mission.



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Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:45 PM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by ecgordon:
The most recent Timeless should have created more of a difference than just an extra James Bond movie. They got Von Braun to the allies almost a year before the war was over rather than afterwards. It would make sense for there to be an infinite number of changes, but how would they know unless they reviewed all of the world's history from that point until the present? They can't do that of course, since the review would have to be done by either Lucy, Rufus, or Wyatt, and that would bring the story to a halt for an episode in between each mission.


I agree. The subject of Von Braun and his staff has always bothered me. I liked the fact that "Timeless" did not portray him as a sympathetic figure, rather as a scientific zombie. "I shoot the rockets up. I'm not responsible for where they land". Give me a break! The guy was a war criminal. His rockets killed thousands of civilians, and everything he built was on the backs of slave labor under horrific conditions. Von Braun knew all that. I don't know how people like that live with themselves. He should have been hanged with the rest of the Nazi leaders at Nuremberg.

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Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:09 PM

AURAPTOR

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Timeless - so, caught up now. I can say there's some clever writing , but also some ridiculous plot lines, as well as some unnecessary historical nonsense being passed off as 'fact'.

Select to view spoiler:


Claims of the deaths caused by the V-2 rocket were in the 10's of 1000's, when the actual # is listed to be just 7,250. And , I'm guessing there weren't too many ( meaning ANY ) fancy parties being thrown while V-2 rockets were being launched, just outside castles, but I could be wrong.



* Then again, since they keep on screwing up history, maybe that is the 'accurate' history now ?

Dunno if this'll make the cut for another season, but there's decent enough potential for subplots to keep things interesting.


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Saturday, August 19, 2023 8:35 AM

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Any show with a SJW pervert Leftism degenerate BLM message forced into its episodes

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Thursday, July 18, 2024 7:28 PM

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Most of the StarWars and StarTrek things...meh

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they added some gay lesbo homosexual story thing to Halo

‘Halo’ Canceled After Two Seasons at Paramount+

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/halo-canceled-paramount-plus-12360759
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Quote:

According to an individual with knowledge of the situation, Xbox, Amblin TV, and 343 Industries will try to shop the series to other outlets.

“We deeply appreciate the millions of fans who propelled the ‘Halo’ series to be a global success and we remain committed to broadening the ‘Halo’ universe in different ways in the future,” 343 Industries said.



It wasn't a global success. If it were, you'd be getting a Season 3, no questions asked.

Congratulations. You've destroyed another IP. Another golden goose.

Because you just couldn't help yourselves.

Fire everyone involved.

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Saturday, August 24, 2024 4:43 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


the comicbook superhero stuff?

James Spader Returning as Ultron for Marvel’s Vision Series
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/marvel-sets-james-spader-
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Saturday, August 24, 2024 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
the comicbook superhero stuff?

James Spader Returning as Ultron for Marvel’s Vision Series
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/marvel-sets-james-spader-
ultron-vision-quest-1235982271/



Good luck.

I bet some people come back if you fix things, but you're never going to make that kind of money again. Not unless you retire cape movies for 20 years before bringing them back.

You've been milking that cow for so long you've got an entire generation of kids that are growing up now that are going to think that cape movies are the lame shit their parents liked back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.

It's time to move on.

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Monday, August 26, 2024 4:53 AM

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Lots of Broadcast TV Cancellations and Online Streaming Shows Pulled


Star Wars and Star Treks finished now


The Acolyte cancellation proves it – the world is bored with Star Wars

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/the-acolyte-cancellation-disney-bored
-of-star-wars
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STD finally ending or fading away

Halo canceled

Hightown also ending

Sweet Tooth, The Umbrella Academy also ending will fade away

a Pirate show? Our Flag Means Death was canceled in 2024.

the reboot of the 1990s western drama 'Walker, Texas Ranger'

Some 'Finish Up' not cancelled Western Yellowstone, set to end

Superman and Lois is ending

Cobra Kai, Good Omens, The Handmaid's Tale, Good Omens, All American: Homecoming , The Conners and politically "Roseanne" would be killed before the show aired? Outlander, Stranger Things

'Evil' a group of people who are tasked by the Catholic Church to investigate possible supernatural

NCIS Hawaii a spinoff of NCIS, a team of elite special agents on the island of Oahu now cancelled

Lady Jane revisionist history drama and if historical England was full of shapeshifters?
My Lady Jane and The Acolyte were canceled back to back.

Tv about supernatural wolves in Los Angeles with Sarah Michelle Gellar

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