DEAR GOD! I just saw the Buffy Movie trailer!(Yes, I know I'm late in the game.) by jossisagod

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DEAR GOD! I just saw the Buffy Movie trailer!(Yes, I know I'm late in the game.)

POSTED BY: JOSSISAGOD
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 4, 2006 14:31
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Saturday, June 24, 2006 5:29 AM

You know the one, 1992's Buffy The Vampire Slayer with Kristy Swanson(as Buffy). It was such a JOKE! Nowhere NEAR the talents of Joss Whedon! I can't believe how much The Powers That Be screwed it up! They should have stuck with Joss's original idea, it would have made a MUCH better movie, let alone a trailer FOR the movie! I'm so glad that I watched BTVS the Series BEFORE I saw the movie trailer because I would have never gotten into The Series had I seen the movie first(I've never actually seen the movie)! I have no idea why I'm posting this but,"Well, here I am."

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Saturday, June 24, 2006 6:24 AM

I always liked the movie...

I like how it's the same age as me!

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 3:52 AM

DARKJESTER

Best way I can describe it is that you were meant to laugh AT the original Kristy Swanson movie. Pee Wee's big death scene? Hi-larious! The campiness, the ridicul-osity, the characters were performing for laughs. Of course, that really removes any empathy you have for Buffy or the other characters.

I liked the movie for those very reasons. It's good for a laugh.

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 1:34 PM

CHRISISALL

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Originally posted by DarkJester:

I liked the movie for those very reasons. It's good for a laugh.

Yep.

Does the word 'Duh' mean anything to you Chrisisall

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 2:06 PM

SIGMANUNKI

Actually, if you watch it, you can see that there are many "whedonisms" in it. The actors just weren't pulling them off well at all.

Also, the problem with someone writing a movie and another directing it, is that never does what happens in the writers mind end up on the screen. It is irrational to even suggest that this is possible.

First off, the director is not psychic. Secondly, the director will do his/her own vision of what (s)he thinks should be done, not someone else's. This is one of the "crazy" defining qualities of a director.

For that matter, how do you know that "they" even knew Joss's original idea? After all, he just wrote the thing. How often does the person who sells a screen play stick around to talk to the studio to tell them about what they should do with it?

I mean seriously. This is the early 90's. A time in which if someone mentioned Joss's name, people would say something along the lines of, who the

is Joss Whedon?

Finally, if you want to have an opinion on a movie and have that opinion carry weight, you're going to have to actually see the movie.

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 2:16 PM

EMBERS

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
First off, the director is not psychic. Secondly, the director will do his/her own vision of what (s)he thinks should be done, not someone else's. This is one of the "crazy" defining qualities of a director.

For that matter, how do you know that "they" even knew Joss's original idea? After all, he just wrote the thing. How often does the person who sells a screen play stick around to talk to the studio to tell them about what they should do with it?

Poor Joss was in his early 20s...
and had no power
the director wanted to make a 'campy' style comedy and Joss hates campy.
But what REALLY has always upset JW was that Donald Sutherland never bothered to learn any of his lines, he ad-libbed his way throughout (the very reason Joss has always been death on actors who try to adlib!)...
unfortunately he was supposed to present the exposition!
without the exposition the movie made no sense,
and became the joke that it was.

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Finally, if you want to have an opinion on a movie and have that opinion carry weight, you're going to have to actually see the movie.

I disagree: I think Joss Whedon would thank you for skipping the movie and only judging Buffy (and his writing) on the TV series.

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Sunday, June 25, 2006 2:52 PM

JOSSISAGOD

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Finally, if you want to have an opinion on a movie and have that opinion carry weight, you're going to have to actually see the movie.

The point is conceded, I guess I should watch the movie now, It's just that, after watching the series, and having an image of what Joss wanted Buffy to be, then seeing the trailer and having that image turned into a horror/comedy, Buffy The Vampire Slayer the movie doesn't seem like something I'd be interested in.

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Monday, June 26, 2006 4:54 AM

CYBERSNARK

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Originally posted by embers:
(the very reason Joss has always been death on actors who try to adlib!)

Until Firefly, when he started telling Nathan to adlib.

"Say something Mal would say!"

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Monday, June 26, 2006 5:04 AM

JOSSISAGOD

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Until Firefly, when he started telling Nathan to adlib.

"Say something Mal would say!"

That's just what I was thinkin'!

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Monday, June 26, 2006 5:04 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Jossis,

watch it. It was very campy. I loved it. Watch it as it's own entity and not as part of BTVS series.

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Monday, June 26, 2006 5:33 AM

SWEETSERENDIPITY

I agree with FMF, you have to watch it on it's own merit. The Paul Ruebens death scene alone is worth it. I was surprised to see so many, then, up and coming stars. David Arquette, Ben Afleck, Hilary Swank, Ricki Lake, Thomas Jane. Yeah, I watched it the other week on late night.

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Monday, June 26, 2006 5:51 AM

ARCADIA

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Yeah, I watched it the other week on late night.

Good for you. I own it, and I love it. My mom has always been a fan of campy horror movies, fantasy, and cheesy teen movies. Hence, I have been Buffy fan since the movie came out when I was six. And thank god, because I probably would never have seen the series otherwise (and without buffy, what are the chances I would have seen Firefly?)

Plus, like everyon'e said, the death of Paul Reubens was also, as were all the hi-larious 90s dresses during the prom scene, and Hilary Swank.

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Monday, June 26, 2006 6:22 AM

EMBERS

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
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Originally posted by embers:
(the very reason Joss has always been death on actors who try to adlib!)
Until Firefly, when he started telling Nathan to adlib.

"Say something Mal would say!"

Yes, Nathan has taught Joss to trust again...

but you notice it was just the one line!
LOL

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 5:24 PM

JOSSISAGOD

I finally saw Buffy The Vampire Slayer The Movie, I still think I would not have gotten into the series if I had seen the movie first. Having seen Buffy The Series, I am assuming that Joss's original idea was to have Buffy be a mixture of all different aspects of teenage life, to me The Movie was just there to have people laugh at it, not to actually care for the characters like people do with the series, even if people have more time to get to know the characters of the series. As for how I know "They" knew Joss's idea for the movie, in the series it seems to me that Joss cared enough for the characters he created, so he stuck around to explain his ideas to the directors of the episodes, I have no reason to believe that he DIDN'T do the same for his screenplay. Well, there you have it, my explaination for my original post.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:29 PM

AMYEL

Joss was around on the movie set, but he eventually walked off due to frustration caused by what the director, studio, and specifically Donald Sutherland were doing to his story. Even in contemporary interviews, he stills seems pretty traumatized by those events. And it does explain his insistance on actors sticking to every little tiny comma or semicolon in his scripts.

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Friday, June 30, 2006 4:26 AM

CYBERSNARK

IIRC, he once did a Buffy comic called The Beginning, intended to be the "realBuffy" version of events. Been trying to track down a copy.

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Tuesday, July 4, 2006 2:31 PM

JUTIN77

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
IIRC, he once did a Buffy comic called The Beginning, intended to be the "realBuffy" version of events. Been trying to track down a copy.

I always wait for the trade paperback... "Buffy The Vampires Slayer #0: The Origin" is available at www.tfaw.com

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