Pivotal moments on Buffy... by chrisisall

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Pivotal moments on Buffy...

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
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Friday, April 20, 2007 10:02 AM

When Buffy beat Adam that was a moment that defined Buffy, saw her controlling power, focusing it as never before, and reveling in the fact.

That and the end of the final ep were the two moments where Buffy had things go her way, it didn't happen too often.

Analytical Chrisisall

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Saturday, April 21, 2007 2:13 AM

SERENITYINSCOTLAND

When Willow entered the common room and saw the bodies of her peers in 'Prophecy Girl'. That was the first pivotal moment in her arc I think. Made her more than the nerdy sidekick.

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Saturday, April 21, 2007 5:29 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

Oddly enough, I count the most pivotal moment in my little life being the introductions of both Xander and Willow, and the series in general, on March 10, 1997...and I fell head over heels in love. I really never knew I could love something so much that wasn't hairy and had four legs!

"Our fate has to be our own, or we're nothing."--Angel
"In Joss We Trust."

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Saturday, April 21, 2007 5:54 AM

DEEPGIRL187

My vote goes to "Innocence" and "The Gift". The scene where Buffy is crying in her room, and the scene where she dives off of the platform. Those were some of the most moving images from the series, I think (though there are certainly more). Each of those events showed Buffy sacrificing a part of herself for others or just to keep herself going. Both of which, I think, are true markings of a hero.

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"If you want to win a war, you must serve no master but your ambition."

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Saturday, April 21, 2007 6:07 AM

JWHEDONADDICT

I'm with deepgirl on this one.

"Our fate has to be our own, or we're nothing."--Angel
"In Joss We Trust."

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Sunday, April 22, 2007 12:04 PM

CHARLIETHEBLOODY

good choices, innocence is a big one for me, to see her crumbling and so vulnerable is heart wrenching.

when buffy goes psycho on the master's bones in when she was bad, it makes you sit up and realise that she's not going to just slay the demon, make a funny and move on, it shows that it goes deeper than that...

xander in the zeppo, it's so pivotal for him and we get to share in that, and the best thing is at the end where cordelia's taunting him and he can just smile and let it roll off him, that's cool

when dawn finds out she's the key and slashes her arms to see if she's real, it's honest and visceral in a way I've never seen on tv before or since.

tara getting shot which changes everything for willow, in an instant up becomes down and she can never be the same person again.

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Monday, April 23, 2007 11:15 AM

RUGBUG

As much as people didn't like the ep (I'm not included in that group), the moment in "Normal Again" when Buffy chooses her hard, scary, dark world over what could possibly be peace.

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Monday, April 23, 2007 11:33 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

I think Buffy's pivotal moment has to be 'Becoming Part II'. Getting kicked out of school for defending the world, walking out on her mother and leaving her home life behind, losing everything to defeat Angelus and then, just when she thought it couldn't get any worse, Angel returns and she has to kill him to save the world. Gripping stuff, and the moment Buffy became a truly great slayer. Also the first time I realised that TV could actually break your heart.

If there's a second moment then it has to be the opening scenes of 'The Body' when she arrives home and finds her mother's lifeless body on the sofa. That single reaction "Mom? Watcha doin'? Mom? Mom...? Mommy?" says it all. It's not just the death of Buffy's mother, it's the end of her childhood.

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Monday, April 23, 2007 12:28 PM

RUGBUG

You know, part of what makes this show so awesome is that the characters were constantly evolving, which is evidenced by the fact that you can pick many, many huge moments that shaped each character.

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Monday, April 23, 2007 12:34 PM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Agreed. No show did character progression quite like Buffy and Angel. After seven years the characters were like old friends.

The one that stood out strongest for me was Anne. For those who don't know her, she first showed up as "Chantarelle" in a club full of teens that worshipped vampires. After getting bitten she realised that vampires suck, and wasn't seen again until the next season, where she was homeless in LA. She was living on the streets with her boyfriend, totally unable to take care of herself. She finds new strength after her boyfriend dies and gets a job and takes a new name - Anne. And that was it... in Buffy, but she showed up again in Angel, this time as a stong, confident charity worker helping homeless teens. She featured in two or three episodes, including the finale. No more than six appearances altogether accross two shows, and yet we saw the fascinating development of a character growing up and facing adulthood in the harshest of conditions. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

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Sunday, April 29, 2007 2:48 AM

SERENITYINSCOTLAND

I wonder if there were plans for her to feature in season six of Angel. Or that her appearance in 'Not Fade Away' was just to give Gunn something to do on his last day, as of all the characters, he is the one with the least obvious thing to do. Angel was always going to see Conner, Wes was always going to be with Illyria, Lorne was always going to sing. Spike maybe not so obvious, but I strongly suspected that it would be something humourous. But Gunn didn't have an obvious way of spending the day.
Also, perhaps Anne's struggle to help the troubled teens of LA is in parallel to Angel's stuggle against evil - both fights that can only ever have individual successes, never total victories.

PS. Do you reckon Spike went into battle with a hangover?!

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Sunday, April 29, 2007 8:56 AM

CHARLIETHEBLOODY

yeah, I like her line when gunn asks her what she'd do if she knew it didn't matter in the grand scheme and she says "I'd get the truck packed" which echoes angel's "if nothing you do matters..." speech. she's a great character.

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Tuesday, May 1, 2007 9:04 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Yeah, when a character is that well rounded it makes you wonder how she continued after the series. Does she know something happened to them all that day? Are things better or worse for her since? Does she have anywhere else to turn?

Also, Spike's poetry reading = priceless

Conversations with Dead People: I heard that Joss was originally hoping to have the guy who played Jesse in that episode, but it didn't happen. When they said that an "old friend" of Buffy's would show up, was anyone else hoping it was going to be Larry? Since Harmony became a vampire during the season 3 finale I thought maybe he could have too.

And now I'm thinking that Harmony is another example of a minor character made whole and fleshed out. Ha!

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Tuesday, May 8, 2007 1:26 AM

HEROUVCANTON

I would think one of the early pivotal moments for Buffy is Graduation Day II. She decides to *include* others around her in the fight against the Mayor. Up till then, she is always the "stand back, leave everything to me" kind of hero. Now she sees that her friends and fellow students are necessary to accomplish things. You see her struggle between these two stances throughout the series.

Dear Diary: Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy. Today, we were kidnapped by hillfolk never to be seen again. It was the best day ever.

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