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Buffy season 7 vs. Angel season 5: which do you like better?

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:11 AM

CHRISISALL


Personally, I love Buffy's final season, and only got Angel S5 to get at the last bits of Spikey goodness in the Joss'Verse.
While I'm willing to admit that AtS5 is arguably a higher quality product, my soul belongs to Sunnydale.

How about y'all?

Got bit Chrisisall




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Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:58 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


I don't share your love for either series' final seasons. Both are my least favorite seasons, but I would have to say that Angel 5 is a bit better.



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Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:09 AM

CHARLIETHEBLOODY


angel S5, easily, I think it was the best season of buffy or angel

but I know I'm in a minority there

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:16 AM

DEEPGIRL187


I won't say it's the best of all seasons, but AtS season five, hands down. And to prove my point, I have two words: "Smile Time".

Anyone who can't love puppet Angel beating down Spike (or doing the hero strut with the broad sword on his shoulders) is a cold soul indeed.

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:58 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Personally, I love Buffy's final season, and only got Angel S5 to get at the last bits of Spikey goodness in the Joss'Verse.
While I'm willing to admit that AtS5 is arguably a higher quality product, my soul belongs to Sunnydale.

How about y'all?

Got bit Chrisisall






Dang it Chrisisall you ask the toughest questions....

After much consideration I'd have to say Buffy. If only for the important fact that there is a definitve conclusion to the whole mythos. Granted it's somewhat flawed at times and certian contrivances tend to just spring up, but it sees our hero's through to the end, and each one of them has a resolve. That is key I think. For me anyway.

Angel saddly didn't have the chance.


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Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:24 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:



After much consideration I'd have to say Buffy.

I agree for much the same reason, my friend.

No longer alone Chrisisall

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:26 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by charliethebloody:
angel S5, easily, I think it was the best season of buffy or angel


As long as you say it was 'cause of Spike, luv...

And look around, you ain't alone here!

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:50 AM

ZORPRIME01



I like them both, but also feel that neither is one of the stronger seasons of their respective series.

I think I will go with Buffy S7 over Angel S5, simply because I think Angel S5 is more hit-and-miss (as is the series overall). That said, both shows have some brilliant eps in their final seasons, I just thought that neither of them really got going quickly enough and had more filler than usual.



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Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:47 AM

SERENITYINSCOTLAND


Angel Season 5 - but I think this is more a reflection of the previous seasons of Angel. The widely accepted slump of season 4 meant it was fantastic to see Angel get back on track. Buffy Season 7 was great, but there were a couple of plot holes that I struggled to ignore.

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:28 AM

CHRISISALL


I think it boils down to Destiny, Smile Time and Not Fade Away against Conversations With Dead People, Lies My Parents Told Me and Chosen.

Buffy by a nose.

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:38 AM

SERENITYINSCOTLAND


Gotta chip in with 'Hell Bound' there Chrisisall - best ep in Angel season 5.

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:49 AM

BLACKSHAMROCK5


Even tough I saw Buffy since it first aired and it holds a special place in my heart, I'm gonna have to go with Angel if it boils down to just the final seasons.

remember that a kick in the ass is a step forward

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:56 AM

EMBERS


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
I think it boils down to Destiny, Smile Time and Not Fade Away against Conversations With Dead People, Lies My Parents Told Me and Chosen.

Buffy by a nose.

Caleb Chrisisall


this is actually a fun question to consider, and I would be inclined to say that they were both doing very different things, as befits their very different series, so I love them both.....

On the Angel plus side I would want to add Damaged to the list of the best, and add Illyria's appearance to Spike adding energy to Angel's last season.

BUT
Then I would have to add Selfless, Storyteller, AND Dirty Girls to the list of Buffy's best from the 7th season, and say how wonderful it was to have Giles back, and Andrew adding to the humor.

I would also give it to Buffy...partly because thre is more I love about BtVS S7 than Ats S5,
also because Buffy's final season really does tie back to the beginning and creates a full arc for the whole concept of the one girl isolated by power.

Angel's final season actually seemed to me to be a big departure from the earlier seasons, it was a wonderful exciting new direction... but it does seem kind of like a stand-alone instead of a tying up of the past
(tho they do get codos for 'Your Welcome' which did go back to the beginning to at least touch on the whole full circle thing)

thanks for another interesting thread!


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Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:00 PM

TRACYLANE


Okay you are talking true fanatic with these shows. Although I loved them both very much and am very upset when Angel got cancelled I was very upset. It was crazy. I had heard highlights of Joss' plans for the show and for none of that to come to fruition...it was a waste.

For that reason I have to agree with one of the previous posters. It was Buffy that was my favorite, because at least everything was tied up at the end. Angel was rough.

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:24 PM

JOSSISAGOD


I liked Buffy's season 7 better, I watched Buffy up to season 6 before I even set my sights on Angel, and Buffy's finale closed things up in sunnydale, while still managing to say that "life goes on,"(no pun intended) I think Angel ended a little more openly,

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ending in the middle of a battle, not after one as Buffy had.



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Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:19 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by embers:

I would also give it to Buffy...partly because thre is more I love about BtVS S7 than Ats S5,
also because Buffy's final season really does tie back to the beginning and creates a full arc for the whole concept of the one girl isolated by power.


Yes, well put.
Now if season five was the end for BOTH shows, I would have gone with Angel. Dying to stop corny Glory's plan was a dumb way to end the series, thankfully, that didn't happen.

Fear The First Chrisisall

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:35 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by embers:

I would also give it to Buffy...partly because thre is more I love about BtVS S7 than Ats S5,
also because Buffy's final season really does tie back to the beginning and creates a full arc for the whole concept of the one girl isolated by power.


Yes, well put.
Now if season five was the end for BOTH shows, I would have gone with Angel. Dying to stop corny Glory's plan was a dumb way to end the series, thankfully, that didn't happen.

Fear The First Chrisisall



Have you noticed that not much is said as regards season 5 of Buffy, or is that me... I must admit when I watched it I did put the whole thing to bed and unlike many I was relatively happy with its finalé...At the time it rounded off the idea of a Slayer's arc.

*deep in thought* The Somnambulist


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Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:36 PM

EMBERS


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Now if season five was the end for BOTH shows, I would have gone with Angel. Dying to stop corny Glory's plan was a dumb way to end the series, thankfully, that didn't happen.


oh I really agree; I always found the entire Glory story line to be incredibly lame...
and unfortunately the strongest episode in Buffy's S5 were too sad (ie The Body) to rewatch much.
I could admire the Buffy giving up her life thing,
but I really preferred Buffy sharing her power!

And Jossisagod said:
Quote:

I liked Buffy's season 7 better, I watched Buffy up to season 6 before I even set my sights on Angel, and Buffy's finale closed things up in sunnydale, while still managing to say that "life goes on,"(no pun intended) I think Angel ended a little more openly,

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ending in the middle of a battle, not after one as Buffy had.



but actually I loved that ending....
Buffy had earned her rest, she had won the good fight...

But Angel (and Spike and Illyria too) were never going to rest,
there would be no end to their battles.
They had to continue fighting and seeking redemption forever.

(so I thought the ending to Ats S5 was kinda brilliant)



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Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:59 PM

JOSSISAGOD


Quote:

Originally posted by embers:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Now if season five was the end for BOTH shows, I would have gone with Angel. Dying to stop corny Glory's plan was a dumb way to end the series, thankfully, that didn't happen.


oh I really agree; I always found the entire Glory story line to be incredibly lame...
and unfortunately the strongest episode in Buffy's S5 were too sad (ie The Body) to rewatch much.
I could admire the Buffy giving up her life thing,
but I really preferred Buffy sharing her power!

And Jossisagod said:
Quote:

I liked Buffy's season 7 better, I watched Buffy up to season 6 before I even set my sights on Angel, and Buffy's finale closed things up in sunnydale, while still managing to say that "life goes on,"(no pun intended) I think Angel ended a little more openly,

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ending in the middle of a battle, not after one as Buffy had.



but actually I loved that ending....
Buffy had earned her rest, she had won the good fight...

But Angel (and Spike and Illyria too) were never going to rest,
there would be no end to their battles.
They had to continue fighting and seeking redemption forever.

(so I thought the ending to Ats S5 was kinda brilliant)



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I didn't mean to sound like I thought the ending to Angel was bad,('cause it WASN'T!) Just that I perfer(sp) a little more closure than Angel provided.

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Friday, December 1, 2006 5:20 AM

CHARLIETHEBLOODY


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As long as you say it was 'cause of Spike, luv...



well as he was in both it makes it harder ;) he got to be crazy in buffy, which was great, but then he got to be so wonderfully snarky in angel

so leaving aside spikeyness, I think it's the illyria arc which tips it for me, I still cry like a baby at hole in the world and wesley's

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death

in not fade away. actually wes all the way through what does buffy 7 have as equivalant? hordes of nasty teenagers.

strangely though smile time isn't one of my reasons for putting it first, it's fun, but once you get over the novelty it isn't a particularly riveting story, and the nina thing annoys me...

plus I think damage dealt with the potential thing much better than any ep. of buffy.

so yeah, those are just a few of my reasons


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Friday, December 1, 2006 6:01 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Quote:

Originally posted by charliethebloody:
strangely though smile time isn't one of my reasons for putting it first, it's fun, but once you get over the novelty it isn't a particularly riveting story, and the nina thing annoys me...



I know. I just love the Angel muppet. Out of the more serious episodes that season, I'd have to say "You're Welcome" is my favorite. Cordy had such a profound effect on the show, and I think it was a wonderful send-off for such a great character.

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Friday, December 1, 2006 6:36 AM

TRACYLANE


I am with you all on the season 5 Buffy thing. I call that the season of Scrappy Doo. That is the one thing I have never fully forgiven Joss for. I would have loved Buffy much more without the annoying whining twit named Dawn. Notice how her name is a 4 letter word? Okay...I'll get off my rant now..

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Angel as a muppet was great for comic value, but for storyline I just wasn't impressed. You have to remember for me though I was still wanting the "happily ever after" for Angel. I loved him and Buffy together and the intro of Spike, well, that was just grand...I never got to see it happen and never believed that Buffy would turn her back on Angel. She would never believe, regardless of his headquarters being at Wolfram and Hart that he had gone in league with them.

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Friday, December 1, 2006 7:43 AM

DEEPGIRL187


Well, gee, five was my favorite season of Buffy.

I know Dawn was annoying at first, but I really liked her character after awhile.

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Angel as a muppet was great for comic value, but for storyline I just wasn't impressed. You have to remember for me though I was still wanting the "happily ever after" for Angel. I loved him and Buffy together and the intro of Spike, well, that was just grand...I never got to see it happen and never believed that Buffy would turn her back on Angel. She would never believe, regardless of his headquarters being at Wolfram and Hart that he had gone in league with them.




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Personally, I'm not a Buffy shipper. For any of her relationships (and yes, that includes Riley). By the end of the series, I was so disgusted with her and the choices she'd made that I felt all of her former boyfriends could have done better. But then, that's just me.



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Friday, December 1, 2006 8:22 AM

TRACYLANE


DG I did not mean to offend and certainly hope I did not. I learned to tolerate Dawn even if I never liked her.

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As for the Buffyships well...Angel and Spike were the only ones I did like. I liked the whole dark humor of it. I did get tired of her complaining about being with Spike and the fact that she was sooo ashamed.

All the more reason I do not believe that Buffy judged Angel poorly for working at Wolfram and Hart.


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Friday, December 1, 2006 8:23 AM

GROOSALUGG


I like S5 of Angel better than S7 of Buffy.

I also like S3 of Angel better than S7 of Buffy. And S2 of Angel. And S1 of Angel. And S6 of Buffy. And S5 of Buffy...

See where I'm going with this?

The last season of Buffy might be better than the first season, or S4 of Angel, but for me, it ranks (far) behind all the rest...

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Friday, December 1, 2006 8:44 AM

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Buffy always beats Angel. Add it up, it all spells: Duh.

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Friday, December 1, 2006 11:13 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Groosalugg:


The last season of Buffy might be better than the first season, or S4 of Angel, but for me, it ranks (far) behind all the rest...

Keep in mind I DID say that AtS5 was a higher quality product than BTVS7; I can be objective about my obsessions...
...and I like Dark Angel as well as Buffy, and far more than Angel.
But that's just me. Go figure.

It stings a bit Chrisisall

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Friday, December 1, 2006 1:09 PM

DEEPGIRL187


Oh, you didn't offend me at all. Sorry if it came out that way. I can be a little vehement at times about the whole Buffy thing.

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Friday, December 1, 2006 1:10 PM

DEEPGIRL187


Quote:

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DG I did not mean to offend and certainly hope I did not. I learned to tolerate Dawn even if I never liked her.

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As for the Buffyships well...Angel and Spike were the only ones I did like. I liked the whole dark humor of it. I did get tired of her complaining about being with Spike and the fact that she was sooo ashamed.

All the more reason I do not believe that Buffy judged Angel poorly for working at Wolfram and Hart.






Oh, you didn't offend me at all. Sorry if it came out that way. I can be a little vehement at times about the whole Buffy thing.

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Friday, December 1, 2006 10:09 PM

GROOSALUGG


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Keep in mind I DID say that AtS5 was a higher quality product than BTVS7; I can be objective about my obsessions...
...and I like Dark Angel as well as Buffy, and far more than Angel.
But that's just me. Go figure.


And keep in mind that you also phrased the question as "Which do you like better?" So I answered by saying that I like S5 of Angel better. Not even talking about the quality or any of that right now--just what I get the most enjoyment out of watching.

Between the two shows, there were 12 seasons, and season 1 and 7 of Buffy, and 4 of Angel, without a doubt fill spots 10-12 on my list when ranking my favorites. After thinking about it a little more today after my last post, I'd probably have to say I like S1 better than S7, if only because Buffy herself was still a likeable character back then, not the uber-annoying, speechifying cardboard cutout she turned into in S7. (Oh, and there's no question as to when SMG looked hotter, S1 or 7--1, hands down.)

And since you brought it up, Chris (not sure why, but you did, so I'll respond to it ), I tried 2 or 3 eps of Dark Angel back in the day, was singularly un-impressed, and stopped bothering to tune in.

But hey, that's me. Go figure, indeed.

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 4:41 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Groosalugg:
(Oh, and there's no question as to when SMG looked hotter, S1 or 7--1, hands down.)


Since we're getting all two-dimensional and surface-y here, there's no question as to who looks hotter, Jessica Alba or SMG... JA hands down, boo .


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Saturday, December 2, 2006 5:32 AM

SHANNARA


angel finished much better than it started, but was nonetheless a very pale comparison to any buffy season...

and imo spike should have had hist last moment of buffy glory.... and no more.

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 10:12 AM

CHARLIETHEBLOODY


buffy was sexiest in season 2/3. I have this theory that it's when her hair's curly that she's a bitch, which started midway through season 4, about the time she was getting together with riley. then season 5, nasty over-coiffed ringlettes, therefore: bitch. season 6, whiny bitch, mean to spike until she gets it cut, then she's not so bad, and 7 it was mostly straight I think and she was nicer then too. see? airtight




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Saturday, December 2, 2006 10:17 AM

GROOSALUGG


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Since we're getting all two-dimensional and surface-y here, there's no question as to who looks hotter, Jessica Alba or SMG... JA hands down, boo .


Well, I'm all about two-dimensional and surface-y, so maybe that's one reason I didn't stick with Dark Angel too long--Alba's never really done much for me. Just a pale imitation of Dushku...

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 10:19 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by charliethebloody:
see? airtight

OMG, you're....you're....right!!!

Verrrrrry observant, Charlie, good show!

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 11:26 AM

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 11:35 AM

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like with double posting

la la la la laaa


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Saturday, December 23, 2006 11:33 PM

EPICJOE


Quote:

Originally posted by charliethebloody:
angel S5, easily, I think it was the best season of buffy or angel

but I know I'm in a minority there



I'm right there with ya, Charlie.

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
I think it boils down to Destiny, Smile Time and Not Fade Away against Conversations With Dead People, Lies My Parents Told Me and Chosen.



What? No Hole in the World on that list, Chris? For shame.

Throw in Damage and Lineage, along with Hamilton, Lindsey, and Spike, S5 of Angel wins, no contest.

And I can't state enough how much I love Not Fade Away. In my opinion one of most powerful pieces of television ever made. Both Chosen and Not Fade Away are fantastic statements regarding the themes of their respective series: Buffy overcoming seemingly insurmountable odds, Angel's never ending struggle for redemption. For me,the reason I've most seen stated for disliking Not Fade Away (lack of closure) is the reason I find it so compelling. There is no beating the Big Bad, because the bad just keeps coming. How you face it is the important thing. "If nothing we do matters, all the matters is what we do."

By contrast Chosen, while a fitting end for Buffy and superb reitteration of its feminist themes, rings a bit hollow for me, mainly because the First Evil is not something beatable. It's an intangible, a part of life, and you don't beat life, you deal (an issue dealt with wonderfully in S6).

I guess that's my long winded way of saying I liked Angel's finale more because it's a stronger commentary on the human condition, and it really emphasizes how much Angel has grown over the course of the series. He's no longer seeing his struggle as something with an end, a goal, but as a process, something to be confronted every day.

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 11:08 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by EpicJoe:

By contrast Chosen, while a fitting end for Buffy and superb reitteration of its feminist themes, rings a bit hollow for me, mainly because the First Evil is not something beatable. It's an intangible, a part of life, and you don't beat life, you deal (an issue dealt with wonderfully in S6).


Buffy & Co. beat The First?
When did this happen? No one sent me the memo.
In Chosen, they plugged up a hole, no more. The First was thwarted- that one time- in a major attempt at upping the stakes. It's still out there, powerful as ever, it seemed to me.



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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:14 PM

EPICJOE


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by EpicJoe:

By contrast Chosen, while a fitting end for Buffy and superb reitteration of its feminist themes, rings a bit hollow for me, mainly because the First Evil is not something beatable. It's an intangible, a part of life, and you don't beat life, you deal (an issue dealt with wonderfully in S6).


Buffy & Co. beat The First?
When did this happen? No one sent me the memo.
In Chosen, they plugged up a hole, no more. The First was thwarted- that one time- in a major attempt at upping the stakes. It's still out there, powerful as ever, it seemed to me.



Watching Chrisisall



I didn't say destroyed or permanently defeated. By beaten I didn't actually mean gone. I'm talking about that idea that evil is something you can just lock away in a hole and not worry about anymore. Sure, Buffy has to end on a win, because that's what the show is about, and I'm not saying it's a bad way to go. It's just not as powerful a statement to me as Not Fade Away, that's all.

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 4:03 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by EpicJoe:
It's just not as powerful a statement to me as Not Fade Away, that's all.

On that I will agree.
But they both leave me with some tears, for entirely different-yet oddly related- reasons.

Just another of Joss' bitches Chrisisall

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:23 PM

PUMAMANREDUX


I prefer Firefly: The Complete Series, honestly

Never could get into Whedon's other series'

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:50 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by PumamanRedux:
I prefer Firefly: The Complete Series, honestly

Never could get into Whedon's other series'

You know that feeling, the very first time ya saw Firefly (if that's what ya saw first, anyway), and ya knew it was something, but ya didn't know what, and then by the third ep you were a fan for life? It just takes longer if ya start with Buffy- like by the second season's second ep, or so...

Summersfan Chrisisall

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:02 PM

SINGATE


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
You know that feeling, the very first time ya saw Firefly (if that's what ya saw first, anyway), and ya knew it was something, but ya didn't know what, and then by the third ep you were a fan for life? It just takes longer if ya start with Buffy- like by the second season's second ep, or so...



I was completely drawn into Firefly through a commercial, how sad is that? By the time I finished with the first episode I was a stone cold junkie. With Buffy I took a not so straight path. I was hooked while watching a marathon then went and bought the first three seasons on DVD. If I had watched from the beginning don't know if I would have lasted. The first season has never really impressed me. Season three will always be my gold standard. The entire cast still together with Faith and the Mayor thown in to sweeten the pot.

BTW Chris, did you ever get that boxset of Supernatural? If so I'd like to get your take on that show.

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:27 PM

EPICJOE


Yep, Whedon and Co. had the benefit of two shows worth of experience before starting Firefly and it managed to get off to a smoother start because of it. Same thing can be seen in the differences between Buffy's and Angel's first seasons. Buffy takes the longest to work out the kinks and find its footing, whereas Angel has less stumbling blocks, and Firefly's are fewer still. The payoff of sticking with Buffy and Angel is well worth weathering the rough patches for.

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:46 PM

WTE


Angel Season 5. I dunno. I thought it was a great ending. Buffy wrapped things up more nicely, but... I like how Angel's ending, in just the last five seconds, pretty much summarizes the whole series' point. :)

I wasn't as crazy for Smile Time as everyone else, but the Illyria stuff, hoooooly crap. Amazing in the wanna-kill-myself way. The good way Joss gives you that feeling, I mean. Hehehe.

HONKS

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Friday, December 29, 2006 2:10 PM

JWHEDONADDICT


With less focus on the potentials and more of Willow standing up to Kennedy and her bratty behavior, I'd choose BUFFY.

With more discussion or acknowledgement (however big or small) about Cordy, both before and after her death, I'd choose ANGEL.

As they were, I liked them both, but admit both had problems I could've lived without.


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