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Originally posted by TheRealMe:
I think that the mind-reading of Kaylee is clear. Kaylee seems uneasy, apprehensive. In place of the formerly friendly playmate is someone who is now unsure of River (certainly fallout from War Stories).

TheRealMe, First Officer of the Sereni-Tree

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Originally posted by nuclearday:
Mal's could mean a couple things, too, really. Again, he's pointedly not looking at River. (Made even more explicit by the fact that Inara certainly is.)

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Originally posted by Grounded:
I always saw Inara as looking away from Mal as opposed to looking at River.

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Originally posted by nuclearday:

(SERIES SPOILERS I'D IMAGINE)

I've read some posts about Book's "flash." I think the clue here is that his thoughts don't necessarily have anything to do with River, herself. He's pointedly not looking at her. I wonder if this is something from his past? I'll likely never figure Book's deal, so I'll leave it at that, I suppose. (Otherwise like to go and write a novel-length thesis on all my Shephard Book theories...)

Then, what's the deal with Kaylee? She's the only one who doesn't say anything, though she's also looking at River during Simon's flash. And I can take the look she gives River a couple ways: Accusatory and taking Simon's side there? (Some resentment at River keeping the two of them apart, even though it's River's predicament that brought Simon to the ship and thusly together?) Or, I can also see it as sort of a blank look. (Kaylee's the one who wears her heart on her sleeve and doesn't really have any secrets... maybe River doesn't read anything off of her because she has nothing to hide?) Or is it a foreshadowing of Kaylee coming out to the crew about the events in "War Stories" and being at least a little bit scared of River after that?

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Originally posted by nuclearday:

Ah, Asarian. As the resident River expert here, I was curious to see what your take on that scene would be when I saw you'd responded. ;p

Never thought of Kaylee being miffed at Simon in that scene, though it rather makes sense. Far as Kaylee being afraid of River, I think I may have phrased that wrong. I was thinking it may have shown her apprehension of River following the War Stories situation. Really, though, I'm still confused. I just find it significant for it's notable absence that she doesn't have any lines there. At first I thought maybe it was an editing / time constraint thing, but really we're talking about a pretty short amount of time and it'd be in the same take as Simon's...

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Originally posted by nuclearday:

Also, I don't think she's walking away angry. Just a little overwhelmed, and perhaps feeling a bit like an intruder in that case.

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Originally posted by nuclearday:
Come to think of it: there's something else that's bothering me about the opening in that episode.

Where exactly DOES the gun come from? Obviously, Jayne could be lying about not leaving it laying around (and who really trusts anything Jayne says, anyways?) But I also assume Jayne cares too much about his collection of firearms to leave one lying around in the cargo deck...

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Originally posted by eldirion:
My take on the gun was that River does not see social boundaries the same as the others. Even if the gun was locked up, she has the skills to open the case, so for her, this is the same as the gun being out in the open.

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Come to think of it: there's something else that's bothering me about the opening in that episode.

Where exactly DOES the gun come from?

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It's the same gun she used in "War Stories". She's had it ratholed for some time.
Now a small spanner into the works, Simon would never say (or even think) what River picks up from him. Why? He just wouldn't, that's why. "...point of fact, it's love..."
And another, Simon is telling Kaylee stories about his college days. Simon WOULD NOT be back there if it weren't for River. He's been out of Med school for some time.
Some of what River is picking up is true (Jayne), some is false (Simon & Book). I think we are supposed to conclude that River's mental condition is deteriating. She's waving a pistol around thinking it's a twig for Chistsake.

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Originally posted by Lampyrid:
My take on OIS:


In both OIS and Serenity, River wakes up twice. Also, in OIS, Kaylee describes River as "not a person", in Serenity, Mal asks River, "Are you anything but a weapon?".

In Serenity, River wakes up and you hear, "Cut them down". I think the weapon woke up, and when then she wakes up again, its River. In OIS, when she hears Early's voice, she woke up once; its the weapon, and it taking a sleeping River along on a search for Early, and a gun to use on him.

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Originally posted by ReaverRequiem:
I’m a little slow. BDM I have no Idea? Best Damn Movie?

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