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season 2 rumors?

POSTED BY: LIGHT1984
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Saturday, March 18, 2006 12:31 PM

LIGHT1984


http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds30578.html
keyword in the article being relicensed
maybe already posted, but whatever





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Saturday, March 18, 2006 12:39 PM

SCRUFFYHANSOLO


forgive my ignorance but in tv talk what exactly do they mean when they say relicensed?

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Saturday, March 18, 2006 12:41 PM

DOG13000


that's not season 2, it just says they have kept the rights to play the show and it will be in there lineup

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Saturday, March 18, 2006 12:42 PM

DOG13000


i think...

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Saturday, March 18, 2006 12:45 PM

MBUHMANN


That's what it sounds like to me too.

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Saturday, March 18, 2006 12:49 PM

FORDAITH


But what this does mean, is that the doors are opened, FOX has no control over the project anymore. So, if they wanted to, SciFi could throw an absorbent ammount of money at Joss and say MAKE ME SHOW NOW!!!!! well, probably in more hospitable manner, but you get the idea

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Saturday, March 18, 2006 1:03 PM

FOLLOWMAL


You are right, Dog, what it means is that it's now relicensed for SciFi UK to play the old eps in their line up. Our SciFi channel here in the US is already licensed to do that.

However the key word in that article is what Kaele pointed out in another thread...."primetime". That's the ticket to new recruits IMHO and that can only be good.

And we'll take good however we can get it!

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:59 PM

AVERARDUS


Quote:

Originally posted by FollowMal:
You are right, Dog, what it means is that it's now relicensed for SciFi UK to play the old eps in their line up. Our SciFi channel here in the US is already licensed to do that.

However the key word in that article is what Kaele pointed out in another thread...."primetime". That's the ticket to new recruits IMHO and that can only be good.

And we'll take good however we can get it!

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal




This is what Ive been holding my breath for, with the DVD's hitting Europe and the show being broadcast in primetime.... we should get ALOT of new fans.

Hopefully this will be the edge we need to open some eyes and get our dam show back on the airwaves!!


Peace~
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Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:16 AM

TITANIA998


Soooo, I don't know if y'all know this or not, but UPN and the WB or merging this year becoming a new network called CW. This means that very few exsisting shows on those networks will be picked up for CW. In an online interview somewhere...(can't remember exactly where I saw it) there's talk that Joss Whedon might just be able to bring Firefly back on that network! Again, this is just a rumor and not announced news or anything so don't go all crazy, but it is words of incouragement for our cause!!!

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006 5:53 AM

AGATSU


Doesn't Warner Brothers own everything already?

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006 6:16 AM

BOB30


Quote:

However the key word in that article is what Kaele pointed out in another thread...."primetime". That's the ticket to new recruits IMHO and that can only be good.


We can only hope. However, SCI FI isn't exactly a massive channel on the UK's digital satellite system. While it does have some good stuff, it also has a lot of not so greats. It would have to be very well advertised to peak the interest of the unconverted massess, especially at primetime. Fingers crossed that SCI FI can market better than Fox....

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006 6:26 AM

WHOOPS


Any rumour is a good rumour the more excitment that can be generated can only be good. Sci-fi isnt a huge channel here in the UK, however, id watch it and id make everyone i can too watch it when it comes back on (being optimistic)

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006 8:14 AM

FOLLOWMAL



Any exposure is good exposure.. the getting people to notice it is what Browncoats there in the UK need to do.

Our SciFi channel here in the US is little too.. .and when they have a Firefly Marathon any one who cares and can.. puts up flyers, hands out flyers, tells everyone they know about it.. hopefully it will stir some interest in the general community. Make new recruits.

Anywhere the show is on and may bring in one person, that one person will bring in more, cuz they'll fall in love and want more and know that they have to spread it around so there is more.

It's a virus... we just need to spread it around.




" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006 10:11 AM

SHINEYSHINDIG


I agree that any additional exposure will only help spread the signal.. Sci-Fi is small but continues to grow an audience. The traditional networks are deluted among so many channel options.. The fact that Sci-Fi has renewed their license to run Firefly is absolute positive news.
Now, I realize we've all been bombarding them with requests to pick up the series, but how about this spin... request primetime marathon showings. More viewings = more browncoats.

Here's a sample of what I sent them:
<<<<

'Hello,
I am a veteran-regular sci-fi channel viewer making a request of a primetime marathon of Firefly. I understand that you will be re-broadcasting Firefly the complete series along with other re-licensed programs and movies, and suggest the best way for exposure to new fans to tune in to Firefly is running it at times that would pull in a bigger audience.

For myself, I was very fortunate to catch one of the daytime marathons of Firefly this past January and have been hooked ever since. I own the DVD series and movie, but this request goes out in a desire to expose this show to so many others who’ve missed it. Other marathons have run during daytime hours, which many can TIVO or DVR, but honestly, a primetime viewing would no doubt be a surprising ratings win for sci-fi channel.

Fellow “browncoats” have been very passionate in efforts to bring the show back to life, and many of us have promoted your marathons in means of personal flyers and word-of-mouth on a lot of the firefly bboards to spread the word. Any future airings will surely get a nod and prod from us and flag others to the sci-fi channel – and keep us tuned in as well!!

Like many others I am sure, you’ve received numerous requests and pleas for picking up the show for a season two, and I have to admit that I am all for that!

But, first things first – MINI-SERIES. Promote it like Battlestar Galactica and “Sci-Fi Fridays” and we fans will also do our part. Proof is in the growing number of “browncoats” nationally and world-wide. If you visit any of the Firefly message boards, such as fireflyfans.net, you will see how many of us there are and the passion that is expressed for the show. THEN, proceed with a new Firefly series (or second season?).

I love what sci-fi has done for the re-imagining of Battlestar Galactica (second personal favorite show). A similar new production of Firefly - say, the before mentioned new mini-series leading into a new series - would flourish on your channel. That would surely become a permanent primetime fixture. The audience is there. The signal is strong.'

>>>

Just wanted to share.
Let's do this.

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006 11:04 AM

FOLLOWMAL


ShineyShindig,

That's very good and when I write my letters this Sunday, I'm going to word one similarly to yours... it's very good.

I hope SciFi will give our beloved show some consideration.. I think they'd find it to be a fine addition to their Friday nights and it'd garner them lots of ratings.. if I were an executive I'd be interested in the Browncoats being on board with my programming... it just makes sense, and I hope they come to see it.


" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Wednesday, April 5, 2006 11:13 AM

KELLYOFLUTHIEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Titania998:
Soooo, I don't know if y'all know this or not, but UPN and the WB or merging this year becoming a new network called CW. This means that very few exsisting shows on those networks will be picked up for CW. In an online interview somewhere...(can't remember exactly where I saw it) there's talk that Joss Whedon might just be able to bring Firefly back on that network! Again, this is just a rumor and not announced news or anything so don't go all crazy, but it is words of incouragement for our cause!!!



Unfortunately, Joss has already squashed this rumor back in February:

http://whedonesque.com/comments/9548

Specifically, Joss said: “No, there haven't been any overtures from the CW as regards a SereniFly spin-off. I haven't even heard the orchestra tuning up.”


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Wednesday, April 5, 2006 4:02 PM

SHINEYSHINDIG


I'm sure things change pretty quick in the biz, and for obvious reasons Joss would never come right out with anything before it was absolutely a GO with any network.. So, in saying that, CW may not be completely out. Who knows?!? If it is, then there's always other networks looking for shows, like SciFi, FX, USA, etc.
A really positive chance would be SciFi, even though they declined to pick up Firefly back in 2002. That was a long time ago, and with the success of Battlestar Galactica, and so many other drama-driven shows becoming popular again, this shiny little 'verse just might be the answer!
It's really just a matter of time.. just believe.. keep spreading the word..
So, until then, I will continue to hold until Mal returns..

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Thursday, April 6, 2006 3:33 AM

SAB39


I wasn't around the 'verse back when the BDM was being made, but I've heard that there were similar denials back then, too.

Any longtime browncoats like to confirm or deny that? It would be real shiny to have a link to Joss saying "No, there's no Firefly movie in the works" to point people to when they bring up that "debunking"...

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Thursday, April 6, 2006 4:36 AM

RAE


As much as I loved the original SG1 series, I doubt it will continue much longer. The current season, to me seems very weak. A new life for Firefly might be just what is needed to take it's place. Got my fingers crossed!

Rae

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Thursday, April 6, 2006 5:30 AM

GRIMJACK21502


Quote:

Originally posted by sab39:
I wasn't around the 'verse back when the BDM was being made, but I've heard that there were similar denials back then, too.

Any longtime browncoats like to confirm or deny that? It would be real shiny to have a link to Joss saying "No, there's no Firefly movie in the works" to point people to when they bring up that "debunking"...



About two months before the story landed in Variety, Joss denied that there were even 'talks' concerning the BDM. A lot of people speculated that legally he couldn't say anything until the lawyers agreed Fox was 'out of the picture' movie-wise.
If it is indeed a return to TV, namely the CW or Sci-Fi, the same 'rules/fears' would apply.

Personally, I think Sci-Fi represents the most viable option. Use the BSG treatment...show old episodes in primetime (original '70s series), produce a new mini-series, gauge fan response, start production of new season. I know BSG is a joint venture with the UK...but this new Sci-Fi UK news seems eerily familiar.

We will hold...we hold till Mal gets back.

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When you're out of the blue and into the black"
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Thursday, April 6, 2006 9:08 PM

AGATSU


Hm, that gave me the idea that maybe an international TV co-production wouldn't be such a bad idea. If I remember correctly, LEXX was a German/Canadian co-production, for example. Their budget seemed to be alright (although I won't comment on the series' quality in general).

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Monday, April 17, 2006 9:52 AM

WOLFE426


Everyone is missing the point here. Universal has no say about licensing the Firefly TV Series. In order for Sci Fi to license the TV Series, they have to negotiate for the rights from 20th Century Fox. Not only did Fox produce the show but they also distribute the show.

Universal only has the rights to the movie "Serenity."

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Monday, April 17, 2006 10:10 AM

THOLO


so what is wrong with a tv show called serenity??

Keep Flying!!

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Monday, April 17, 2006 8:49 PM

WOLFE426


Simple, they mention Firefly TV series not Serenity TV series.

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:20 AM

THOLO


arent they the same thing?? joss said there will never be another firefly. so the only other option is a tv show called serenity. it would allow stations like sci-fi to make it and not have to deal with fox and their firefly rights. i think he was thinking they firefly and serenity were one and the same.

i think it would make sence that a tv show called serenity would help, because if you went back and called it firefly, people be really messed up. if new viewers saw the movie it be a easier sell to newer viewers to pick up on. instead of telling them " well the tv show firefly was out first and then this movie called serenity and now another tv show called firefly is back again" huh, hehe my point exactly.

sci-fi just need to let the new show pick up where it let off at the end of the movie. kinda like stargate. then i feel it would take off faster. if they start switching timelines and jumping all over the place we will loose new viewers, i feel like.

Keep Flying!!

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:38 AM

REAVERKILLER


You know what. I want Joss to countinue the "Firefly" serius. I love it. I don't give a gorram crap what FOX want. Why can't SciFi just get Joss to countinue. Give him a whole bunch of money and he may be willing.

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 10:06 AM

DAVESHAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by Reaverkiller:
Why can't SciFi just get Joss to countinue. Give him a whole bunch of money and he may be willing.



Does the scifi channel even have a whole bunch of money?

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review at amazon.de

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:22 PM

TEINEN


Quote:

Originally posted by shineyshindig:
That was a long time ago, and with the success of Battlestar Galactica, and so many other drama-driven shows becoming popular again, this shiny little 'verse just might be the answer!


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Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:24 PM

TEINEN


I was gonna post something along those lines.

Just wait until the slated live action TV show for "Star Wars" comes out next year, networks are gonna be looking for anything to try to capitalize, and follow the trend.

People were not ready in 02. Now we have all kinds of high production cost, movie like shows. I mean look at what CSI did. I cant even turn on the TV without flipping through at least 5 versions of the same, cloned, repetitive show. CSI, CSI:Miami, CSI:Montana, SVU, NCIS..... So basically im hoping people freak out for Star Wars TV, and with all the bad shows that will come from it, maybe Firefly/Serenity will have another shot. Its already got the fanbase. Oh and Futurama.

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 4:54 PM

THOLO


sci fi has money , when you make a movie called mamoth and rotwiller, i mean come on!!! they can save money on crap like that and put it into firefly/serenity.

oh well, they didnt ask us??? we must not matter. hehe


Keep Flying!!

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 5:31 AM

NUCLEARDAY


Quote:

Originally posted by teinen:
Just wait until the slated live action TV show for "Star Wars" comes out next year, networks are gonna be looking for anything to try to capitalize, and follow the trend.



You know... I think you've got a really good point there. Even if it's totally suck-tastic (and here's hoping it isn't,) the Star Wars show is surely going to be bringing in the ratings. And it's a given that if one type of show is doing well on one network, everyone will want to capitalize, as you say.

And what better franchise to compete against SW than Firefly???

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Thursday, May 4, 2006 1:50 PM

ADAPA


This bit of news is actually the best hope I've heard so far. Sci-fi & firefly is a natural combo here in the states.
I keep coming back to the evolution of SG-1. If I'm remembering correctly, SG-1 was on the WB network for the first 5 years eventually repeats were aried on the Sci-fi channel, then presto, sci-fi started producing it.
If Sci-fi is airing firefly in primetime there has to be a plan for something bigger to come assuming the #'s are there to back it up. Which of course they will be.

After all it's not as tho Joss isn't a proven $$ maker.

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Friday, May 5, 2006 7:30 AM

BROWNCOATSRISEAGAIN


Just for nitpicking-

SG-1 was originally on Showtime which makes showing the first seasons problematic on basic cable without some editing...

Andrew

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Friday, May 5, 2006 7:45 AM

RKLENSETH


Quote:

Originally posted by Agatsu:
Doesn't Warner Brothers own everything already?



Time Warner owns Warner Brothers. And to answer your question, no but if Time Warner and Viacom merge which is rumored then whatever Corporation emerges from the merger will be the most powerful and largest in the industry.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Friday, May 5, 2006 7:59 AM

RKLENSETH


Anyways, for Sci-Fi to get Firefly for new episodes 20th Century Fox has to give up the rights first. That has not happened. The only thing that has happened so far is that 20th Century Fox licensed the existing 14 episodes to Sci-Fi for airing. So that means that Sci-Fi can only air the 14 episodes and doesn't mean that they can make more episodes. So 20th Century Fox can sell the rights to NBC Universal (which owns the Sci-Fi Channel), or make more episodes and have them be turned down by their counterpart (Fox Television Network) and thus allow a bidding a war for whatever other channel wants to try to pick it up, or Universal Studios can make more movies. As long as a studio is willing to make it, a channel is willing to air it, and advertisers are willing to endorse it then there is always a chance but we have to find those three combinations first and offer up the numbers to make it worthwhile (either in money or people) for them to make a show.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Friday, May 5, 2006 12:46 PM

ADAPA


Quote:

Just for nitpicking-

SG-1 was originally on Showtime which makes showing the first seasons problematic on basic cable without some editing...

Andrew

Thanks for the correction. I missed the first few years of SG-1 so wasn't sure of the time line.


Agreed, Rklenseth, the key is for FOX to sell it's rights. So...how's Fox's financial situation? Does anyone know what Fox's reaction has been with regards to selling?




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Monday, May 8, 2006 7:12 AM

BROWNCOATSRISEAGAIN


Fox would most likely rent the rights for a limited period of time rather than sell - gives them leverage if the show were to take off.

All I know is that Ace Underhill was in contact with the right people at Fox, but no decision yes or no had been made. It was clear from my point of view, that Joss would have to be involved in the decision whether to allow the transaction to continue.

Andrew

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Monday, May 8, 2006 2:17 PM

EMVER


Hi from Australia,

Regarding Fox, I'm pretty sure they don't need the money. That company, to my best knowledge, is owned by Murdoch, he's one of the richest media moguls in the world.

I suspect people don't get to own as much media as that (Newscorp) by being being really nice, kind humans. But what would I know?

His son was in the news recently, quit working for Daddy. I suspect (undoubtably incorrectly) that he quit over the Firefly debacle.

OK, I know that's not true, but it comforts me sometimes.

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Sunday, July 2, 2006 3:54 AM

REAVERKILLER


forget Fox! they are stupid gimps who don't know a good show from a bad one. they were donkeys from the start.

"Your like a wild trained ape, without the training!" Simon- Jaynestown

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Sunday, July 2, 2006 5:50 AM

GHOSTTOWN


I'm new to the whole Firefly/Browncoats deal, but my fire is newly lit and fresh and very eager to do my part. But I waswondering what sort of things browcoats have done aside from sernity day? Like have we done same day mass mailings to Fox/Sci-Fi? Or anything of that sort...I just am not sure what we've done and and what more we have planned to do.

Cory

"That's A Dumb Planet"

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Sunday, July 2, 2006 11:53 AM

REAVERKILLER


i've writen to a producer before saying they should continue firefly. but then i thought that it kinda would suck with out Alan (wash). besides that i don't know

"Your like a trained ape, without the training!" Simon- Jaynestown

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:46 AM

ARBAS


I think part of the problem with getting another series/film or whatever is money, the moneymen see the series as a failure and the movie didn't do well enough at the box office to set their cash alarms ringing. Now we know that DVD sales of both the series and the movie have been very good and we also know that other genre channels are going to show Firefly (hopefully in the correct order and in widescreen - waiting on a confirmation from SciFi UK on that) what we need is to expand the audience from the existing fanbase, so it's little use posting in existing Browncoat forums or Science Fiction boards (but hit them too) we need to hit as many non genre sites as possible, expect rejection and scorn when you do but don't rise to it - point the people to the many sites that host extracts and trailers from the series, whet their appetites with quotes and story lines, find the similaritys between the series and classic TV/Movies - I'd suggest fly posting adverts if that wasn't illegal, just get non-fans attention and after the shows have aired hit the websites and feedback the pleasure you had seeing the episode, hit the websites of the advertisers and thank them for supporting the show, assure them that you'll buy their product, ask them if they produce Firefly merchandise, if they don't ask them why not - ANYTHING THAT SETS OFF THE CASH ALARMS. Remember these people aren't fans of anything execpt money - hit publishers websites asking if they have any Firefly productions in the pipeline - if not why not. You all get the picture and it costs us nothing but time and typing. Hit the chat show websites and ask them if they plan to interview the cast (don't specify them as Firefly cast members, just say you saw them on a website video - links to convention appearences will help, and they were incredibly entertaining)

ANYTHING THAT GETS A COMPANY RESEARCHER WONDERING WHAT THIS FIREFLY THING IS ALL ABOUT IS GOOD.

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 2:31 PM

KANEMAN


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Originally posted by Arbas:
I think part of the problem with getting another series/film or whatever is money, the moneymen see the series as a failure and the movie didn't do well enough at the box office to set their cash alarms ringing. Now we know that DVD sales of both the series and the movie have been very good and we also know that other genre channels are going to show Firefly (hopefully in the correct order and in widescreen - waiting on a confirmation from SciFi UK on that) what we need is to expand the audience from the existing fanbase, so it's little use posting in existing Browncoat forums or Science Fiction boards (but hit them too) we need to hit as many non genre sites as possible, expect rejection and scorn when you do but don't rise to it - point the people to the many sites that host extracts and trailers from the series, whet their appetites with quotes and story lines, find the similaritys between the series and classic TV/Movies - I'd suggest fly posting adverts if that wasn't illegal, just get non-fans attention and after the shows have aired hit the websites and feedback the pleasure you had seeing the episode, hit the websites of the advertisers and thank them for supporting the show, assure them that you'll buy their product, ask them if they produce Firefly merchandise, if they don't ask them why not - ANYTHING THAT SETS OFF THE CASH ALARMS. Remember these people aren't fans of anything execpt money - hit publishers websites asking if they have any Firefly productions in the pipeline - if not why not. You all get the picture and it costs us nothing but time and typing. Hit the chat show websites and ask them if they plan to interview the cast (don't specify them as Firefly cast members, just say you saw them on a website video - links to convention appearences will help, and they were incredibly entertaining)

ANYTHING THAT GETS A COMPANY RESEARCHER WONDERING WHAT THIS FIREFLY THING IS ALL ABOUT IS GOOD.




That sounds like one helluva plan to me!

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Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:43 PM

MADUKRAINIAN


EXACTLY!!!! All that the networks care about is money (and potential money) and that needs to be the focus of any effort. We can do it if we work hard enough

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Sunday, August 13, 2006 3:19 AM

DINALT


Talking of rumours, is this one on the straight & level ?

http://www.fireflyseason2.com/About.htm

Seems to be on the level, but does anyone know anything about them - or are any of them posters here already.
Sounds like a good idea, and they're not asking for money upfront or anything, just sizing up the market I'd guess.

P.S. Sorry if it's already been discussed - I'm kinda new here still


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Monday, August 14, 2006 12:20 AM

KENTUCKYFRIED


I think that the only way that this show will make a return is by a show of force. $$$.

If you haven't already, buy the dvd's for the t.v. series and the movie. If the numbers grow, SciFi will consider producing the 2nd series?

I don't know how this all works, but SciFi would be stupid not to consider this at all. Considered that they churn out crap like..."Mansquito?" hahahaha. Firefly is on a completely different plane from stuff like that.

Have their been any signals from SciFi at all on this topic?



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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:26 AM

REAVERKILLER


i agree with the fan base thing and i do that with friends at school, i try and share it with everyone i meet. i've shared it with my family, even my grandmother who is very "i don't like anything different"! i do my best but i've wondered if anyone else is. and yeah that mony thingy is a BIG facter

"It's grotesque! Oh and look, something in a jar."

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:06 AM

AUDDIE


i just love the firefly!! my children are 9 and 7... and since we don't have cable... we watch it all the time (in order of course). we just finished up it this past weekend with serinity. i would love for it to go on air again. heck.. i'd get cable just to watch it!!!

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Monday, August 21, 2006 11:42 PM

KINGHENDRICK


thanks for the link danault.. seems like a decent idea to at least sign up..

I don't want a signature!

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Monday, August 28, 2006 3:46 PM

CORAV


It would be absolutely awesome if SciFi would pick this up. I watch BSG and SG Atlantis every Friday, and I think Firefly/Serenity would fit in perfectly here. Yes, money is the driving force here, so I make sure that I am always pushing the BDM to everyone I meet/know. I introduced it to my sister and her family, whose husband is in the Navy, and they loved it so much they bought the dvd set and movie too! I can only hope that they use their influence with the Naval community to spread the hype.

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