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Originally posted by Hjermsted:
The 'Heart of Gold' script has Kaylee still acting nervous around River after her sharp-shooting display in 'War Stories'.

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River is suddenly at their side

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It's starting.

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Originally posted by Shiny:
Kaylee gives a little STARTLED JUMP, unseen by Mal.

That's the only reference I could find to Kaylee acting 'nervous' around River...

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Originally posted by Treiza:
Hmm, I assumed that Heart of Gold was the last episode because in the script the episode ends with Inara telling Mal she's leaving. Wouldn't there have been some mention of that in episodes that came later?

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Episode #: 1AGE13

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Interesting note the second to last link subtitles War Stories as Oaths of Loyalty. Never heard that before.

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Originally posted by christhecynic:
The problem with putting Heart of Gold before the others is that there is never a decision shown that she plans on staying. We could assume that the events of Objects in Space somehow made her decide to stay between then and Trash but that is a fairly weak argument. The show isn’t weak, so that doesn't add up.

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Originally posted by Talrius:
Chris,

If you read the script of screen project on the official site it follows the writing process for 'War Stories'. It lists WS as 'Oaths of Loyalty' until an early morning call to the writer changed the name to 'War Stories'. That's where the name came from.

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Originally posted by rhuttner:
Its true that there is never a reason given for why she stays, but at the beginning of OiS she is fighting with Mal and says "I don't know why I haven't left already".

If HoG goes before OiS, then these 2 scenes flow well.

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Originally posted by Aerundel:
If Heart of Gold is before Trash and The Message, then why do they show a scene from The Message when they're recapping at the beginning of Heart of Gold?

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Originally posted by Aerundel:
If Heart of Gold is before Trash and The Message, then why do they show a scene from The Message when they're recapping at the beginning of Heart of Gold?

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This is exactly my question, too. Seems clear HoG is last.

If not, can someone explain this, please?

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Unless Whedon and Co. changed the scripts posted here, it would seem 'Heart of Gold' flows nicely between 'War Stories' and 'Objects in Space'

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I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but back before the show was canceled the episode guide listed "Heart of Gold" as the episode to air in "objects in Space"'s place. When word came down that Firefly was "going inot Hiatus" for a while, the schedule changed and OiS was aired instead. I think they wanted to make sure that one aired because it's so damn good ...

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Originally posted by christhecynic:
Ok I looked at The Message script again and here’s what I’ve come up with. It says

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So I’m thinking that that is an episode number. I know, its outrageous, but I really think it is an episode number.

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Originally posted by LexiBlock:
Yes, the talk was that since OiS was written and directed by Whedon it was probably a better ratings bet than HoG, but the talk was also that because they changed they order the episodes were edited differently, ie changed from the original plan. Ie, Yes HoG WAS supposed to be first, but i don't think it is anymore.

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She and Mal still weren’t to be lovers, so what would make her stay that wouldn’t make Mal and her make a relationship?

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On a side note, (to which I am unsure I subscribe yet) I have thought that HOG could very nicely fit before OIS. All of the corresponding scenes seem to match up with their characters previous actions.

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Especially the 'previous on' which shows scenes from The Message...

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I mean, you've got Inara/Mal, with Inara saying in the last scene of HOG that

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she's going to leave, and in the next scene with her, we see her in OIS with Mal, and she is saying, "I don't know why I haven't left already."

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Yeah, but i think that's just general complaining, its not way near enough entense to be a continuation.
Especially since their relationship goes way up in Trash/Message - they appear to feel much warmer towards each other - i'm not sure that is a logical extension of HoG

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Also, on the same thought, you've got Simon/Kaylee, in OIS all laying on top of each other,

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as though they had just had a breakthrough of some sort, like holding hands at a funeral in HOG

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It feels right somehow that they should be so closely bonding in the beginning of OIS.

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You are dreaming - they are just standing next to each other in HOG - however in "The Message" they are holding hands...


Also, people keep talking about the Sci Fi UK airing order, where can you see what it is?

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Originally posted by outlander:
I hope Heart of Gold goes after The Message, because even though I thought The Message was a good episode I found that it ended on a bit of a downer, which I didn't think was a good tone to end the series on.

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I hope Heart of Gold goes after The Message, because even though I thought The Message was a good episode I found that it ended on a bit of a downer, which I didn't think was a good tone to end the series on.

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"End" the series? BLASPHEMY! The series ain't ended, just takin a little hiatus. Right?

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Originally posted by Dundee:
Anybody else notice the order clips from the unaird epps at the very begining when they show whats already happened, At the begining of HoG they show clips from The Messg, In Trash they show clips from already aired and in The Messg they show clips from Trash

therfor logic sais the order of unaird epps goes

1) Trash
2) The Message
3) Heart of Gold

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Okay, I've not really put any thought into this, so feel free to dismiss it-- I'm making it up as I go.

Here’s the order I watch the eps in...

OiS
Trash
HoG
The Message

Mainly because I’m following the relationship between Kaylee and Simon.

In the beginning of Objects in Space those two were very flirty and comfortable with each other, and after the Early incident Simon probably didn't move on pass that innocent flirting throughout Trash, and Heart of Gold. In HoG Kaylee says that “its not like anyone else is lining up to examine me.” She didn’t seem mad or guilty (I‘ll get to the guilty later), just frustrated that Simon still hadn’t made any further moves. That about all we get of them in HoG.

Then, in the Message it starts off with those two and some more flirting in the booth. This time it is a little more direct with them holding hands and Simon pretty much saying that he likes her likes her. Of course then he makes a stupid joke and she storms out. So right now she is kinda pissed at him, and he feels a little guilty. Back on Serenity Simon offers to do an autopsy and Kaylee gets a tid bit upset and calls him a robot. Now I’m thinking that Simon’s not just guilty but a little irked about how she’s reacting.

Then there is that little engine room scene where Simon almost goes in to talk to her, but ends up walking away when he realizes that she doesn‘t want to deal with him. Blah blah blah, move on to when Tracy, the formerly dead guy, wakes up, and Kaylee walks into the room. She stares at Tracy (probably just because he was dead last time she saw him) and there is a great moment where she picks her jaw up off the floor when she notices Simon staring at her. At this point I think the tables are starting to turn slightly where Simon is moving to the upset side and Kaylee to the guilty side.

Next scene-- Kaylee gives Tracy water and sits near him, the furthest, and with a table between them, from Simon. A hint at why I think Kaylee is starting to move toward feeling guilty for being so quick to react and rude towards Simon is because when he starts talking, she looks up at him quickly, and then away-- if she was upset I think she would of acted a little more defiant. Through out the scene where Tracy’s talking about his organs getting scooped out Kaylee is all moon eyed and sweet on him, which of course Simon must notice.

Through the rest of the episode there is some heavy flirting between Kaylee and Tracy, and then Tracy goes all weird and holds her at gun point. He gets shot and tells that heart wrenching story as he dies and Simon doesn’t try to save his life, just holds a bandage to his chest wound. (He either couldn‘t be saved and Mal probably just motioned for him not to even try or it wasn‘t worth it because of the unstable organs or what not) Then he goes and dies, and the last scene of Simon and Kaylee is when she stands beside him and holds his hand, while the both of them look onward kinda sadly.

Maybe I’m just reading too much into all of this... And now that I’ve seen all I’ve written I think maybe I have, but I think there is just so much in that last scene. Kaylee was sad that Tracy died, even though there was the whole hostage bit, she still felt bad for him. Simon, being the kind of man he is and a doctor, probably doesn’t like to see anyone die, (especially if he think that he could of saved him?) When Kaylee went and held his hand is was almost like she was saying “I’m sorry for getting so upset with you over something you really didn’t mean, and at the same time almost completely leaving you, you wonderful nice man who gave up everything to save your sister, for some charming guy who only wanted money and to save his own skin and was willing to hold a gun to my head. So once again I’m sorry, I’m not mad anymore, and I’ll be here for you, and I need some comfort.” (See the whole guilty feeling thing?) And Simon was like “Uh, yeah, s‘alright... I‘m not mad anymore either”.

So, the gist of all that leads back to that one little line in HoG by Kaylee “It’s not like anyone else is lining up to examine me”. I don’t think she would of said that after The Message if she was feeling guilty for her behavior, and Simon was indeed moving forward in their relationship in his own fumbled way, but I can see her saying that after OiS and the Early deal when Simon probably backed off a bit or just stayed with that little innocent stuff.

Plus, (and I swear this is the last I‘ll write), after she said that in HoG, Simon may of tried a little harder in their relationship, like he did in the Message, when he took her out on… almost a date, to see the “alien”.

*Takes a deep breath* Whoo, that’s the order I think you should watch the eps in if you want to follow their relationship, but there are the “previously” clips that show a different order, an order to watch the eps in if you want to follow River’s progression, and an order that works best with Inara’s whole “I’m leaving” bit. So, I just say, if you’ve seen them all already, pick your own order And if you’ve not seen them all yet... Flip a coin