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Public Safety Must Trump Individual's Safety
Thursday, April 19, 2007 1:33 AM
SHINYED
Thursday, April 19, 2007 3:07 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:44 AM
MONKSDAD
Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:11 AM
Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:41 AM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by ShinyEd: Piss off maggot.
Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:02 AM
Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:17 AM
Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:12 AM
DESKTOPHIPPIE
Quote:Originally posted by ShinyEd: This maniac Cho should NEVER have been allowed to be walking around free. He should have been locked in a straight-jacket inside a padded cell back in 2005....instead they checked off a box on a form that said: "imminent threat and danger to himself and others" and let him just walk out the door. What we are increasingly facing here is a battle...a battle for the definition of our country. I say...the safety of the public comes first, no exceptions. These elitist "professionals" and their WALLS OF PROTECTION must be defeated. Psychiatrists, doctors, lawyers, etc MUST be compelled to report A DANGER TO SOCIETY whenever they have reasonable and documented suspicion. Where is it written that a mob lawyer can chat with his murdering Mafia thug in jail and have attorney-client privilidge? It's not in the US Constitution...it was made up. Where is it written that pyschiatrists and suicide hotlines can use privacy concerns as a reason to expose all of us to monsters like this Cho?...Nowhere, except in their own self-gratifying world of superiority. This is ALL an outgrowth of Political Correctness run fucking amok....Everyone AFRAID to pass a judgement, afraid to report, afraid to question...all due to the fear of a fucking LAWSUIT....and of course all the bleeding heart liberals and their pedophillic-friendly judges who refuse to call sex crimes...crimes...but instead look at all these monsters as needing treatment. Does all this scare you a bit? I'm sure it does here at FFF. It's fucking time for personal accountability to the general good and safety of our citizens...if you can't get over all your apprehensions about loss of privacy, then don't ever fucking ask why when the next massacre occurs. Logic dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.
Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:16 AM
FLETCH2
Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:17 AM
Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ShinyEd: don't piss off...go fuck off
Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:19 AM
FREDGIBLET
Quote:Originally posted by DesktopHippie: Subject is irrational, hostile and abusive to others. Has referred repeatedly to "them" and "they" who have allowed bad things to happen to society. Seems to believe there is some kind of conspiricy involving "bleeding heart liberals" and "pedophillic friendly judges." Becomes extremely agitated when this theory is questioned, resorting to swearing, abusive responses etc. Recommend that subject be detained for futher observation and treatment. Please prepare the straightjacket and padded room.
Quote:Originally posted by ShinyEd: and the parade of Rennaissance Fair freaks continues....
Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:49 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:55 AM
Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ShinyEd: I've got 5 of them....and next time you're at a con, I could be standing right next to you, and you wouldn't even know it.
Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:01 AM
Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:04 AM
JONNYQUEST
"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"
BIGDAMNNOBODY
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: You said something, that was debunked by actual evidence.
Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:14 AM
Quote:Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: You said something, that was debunked by actual evidence. So why is this thread still going then? Flamebaiting, enjoyed by posters of all ideologies. Posting to stir stuff up.
Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:54 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: And next time you shoot off your mouth, maybe load your brain first, cause it's the empty weapon that fires the loudest.
Thursday, April 19, 2007 8:58 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Come on. At least try to form an intellegent response. Right now, you just sound like a hard-right version of Piratenews.
Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Come on. At least try to form an intellegent response. Right now, you just sound like a hard-right version of Piratenews. Don't lump him in with PN. Crazytalk is one thing, this is something different. I'd describe it as ranting lunacy. He seems unhinged, perhaps dangerous and by his own original argument he should be jailed for the public good. All in favor? H
Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ShinyEd: Whatya gonna have one of your votes via circle jerk all over Rue's face again? Hope you get last licks.
Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:19 AM
Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:26 AM
Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:48 AM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Thursday, April 19, 2007 10:03 AM
Thursday, April 19, 2007 10:26 AM
Thursday, April 19, 2007 10:36 AM
Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JonnyQuest: DTH, I've warned you before about wandering around in the RWED unprotected. You're too good of soul to be found among such as these...
Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:40 PM
Thursday, April 19, 2007 3:00 PM
Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:42 PM
YINYANG
You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.
Quote:Originally posted by fredgiblet: Am I the only one who suddenly can't see anything but the original post?
Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:03 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Friday, April 20, 2007 10:41 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote: US politician bombs US school - 45 dead It's relevant that the worst school slaughter in USA was perped by an elected govt official, using a controlled demolition of preinstalled explosives. Sound familiar? This US politician also became the world's first suicide car bomber. Virginia Tech Massacre is kindergarten compared to what an elected member of a government school board did to little children in Michigan USA. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~bauerle/disaster.htm On the morning of May 18, Kehoe first killed his wife and then set his farm buildings on fire. As fire fighters arrived at the farm, an explosion devastated the north wing of the school building, killing many of the people inside. Kehoe used a detonator to ignite dynamite and hundreds of pounds of pyrotol which he had secretly planted inside the school over the course of many months. As rescuers started gathering at the school, Kehoe drove up, stopped, and detonated a bomb inside his shrapnel-filled vehicle, killing himself and the school superintendent, and killing and injuring several others. During the rescue efforts, searchers discovered an additional 500 pounds (230 kg) of unexploded dynamite and pyrotol planted throughout the basement of the school's south wing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster “Your consistently correct attitude and demeanor ensured the ultimate success of this program. Your leadership and perseverance was instrumental in fostering a sense of teamwork and initiative among fellow staff members and airport stakeholders alike. We Protect: Dept of Defense Facilities and Military Installations." -McNeil Technologies, CIA employer of sister of Korean VA Tech shooter www.mcneilsecurity.com
Quote: Sources: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down Local authorities were told to take no action to pursue killer Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet Friday, April 20, 2007 Police and EMT workers at Virginia Tech tell us that campus police were given a federal order to stand down and not pursue killer Cho Seung-Hui as Monday's bloodshed unfolded. Though wishing to remain anonymous for obvious reasons, we have received calls from police and EMT's who tell us that a stand down order was in place, and this is also confirmed by eyewitness Matt Kazee, who is a Blacksburg local. Kazee talked to local EMT's and police who told him the same thing, that the order was to wait until federal back up arrived before any action was taken. This explains the complete non-response of the police in the two hour gap between Cho's first two murders and the wider rampage that would follow later that morning. The policy of federal control over the University was put in place following a previous shooting in August 2006 in which a police officer and a hospital security guard were killed. www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/200407standdown.htm Strange Virginia Tech Coincidences Kurt Nimmo | April 20, 2007 As “News Commentary” on the Truthseeker website notes, Virginia Tech is an “active partner” with DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. In addition, the CIA actively recruits VT students, holding events the spook agency bills as “career information” sessions. www.darpa.mil “News Commentary” claims “Blacksburg, VA houses a US government ABOVE TOP SECRET underground laboratory (in the side of a local Blacksburg mountain) that develops in conjunction with DARPA, weapons such as human robotic mind control programming.” A Google search, however, turns up no mention of mind control experiments, of course, but there is plenty of reference to the “ Deep Underground Science and Engineering Laboratory … 7,000 feet under Butt Mountain” in Blacksburg. www.phys.vt.edu/news/dusel102504.html Part of the AMADEUS Project (Advanced MAnipulation for DEep Underwater Sampling), funded by the European Commission (i.e., the executive body of the one-world European Union), the Deep Underground Science and Engineering Laboratory, according to The Pit Bulletin (the newsletter of the Department of Mining and Minerals Engineering at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University), is designed for “military needs, ranging from unique designs for underground sporting arenas to storing various types of waste materials…. the AMADEUS team feel that the expanding world population is creating a demand for additional types of underground construction.” As well, an “expanding world population” may call for the development of “perfect weapons” long sought by DARPA and the Pentagon, including avian influenza H5N1, an area of research at VT, according to Virginia Tech News (a Google reference points to a page that currently produces an SQL error). “If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels,” Prince Phillip (current King of England). Finally, a resume posted on the VT Computer Science Department website by Robert G. Ball notes grants awarded to the university by ARDA/DTO, short for Advanced Research and Development Activity, Disruptive Technology Office. “ARDA was created in 1998 after the model of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) by the Director of Central Intelligence and the Department of Defense, and took responsibility for funding some of DARPA's projects,” explains Wikipedia . “There has been speculation that the DTO is continuing research efforts started under the Total Information Awareness program (TIA) in DARPA's Information Awareness Office (IAO)…. Although ARDA's budget is presumably classified as part of the intelligence budget, the New York Times quoted an unnamed former government official saying the agency spent about $100 million a year in 2003. The Associated Press reports that ARDA had a staff of only eight in 2004.” Early last year, I reported that DTO was to be run by John Negroponte (see my TIA “Disruptive Technology” Subverting Bill of Rights ). Of course, all of this secret and not so secret activity on the Virginia Tech campus and environs is not definitive evidence Cho Seung-Hui was a government produced mind-control assassin. However, it does indicate VT serves as a hub for experimental and prototype DoD technologies. www.kurtnimmo.com/?p=836
Quote: "In a surprise move, a House panel voted today to repeal a state law that forbids the carrying of handguns on property and buildings owned by state, county and city governments — including parks and playgrounds. 'I think the recent Virginia disaster — or catastrophe or nightmare or whatever you want to call it — has woken up a lot of people to the need for having guns available to law-abiding citizens,' said Rep. Frank Niceley, R-Strawberry Plains. 'I hope that is what this vote reflects.'" -Knoxville News Sentinel, "Tennessee moves to allow guns in public buildings," April 20, 2007 www.knoxnews.com/kns/state/article/0,1406,KNS_348_5491437,00.html
Quote: "Mr. Chairman: In my letter to you of July 15, 1977, I reported our recent discovery of seven boxes of documents related to Project MKULTRA, a closely held CIA project conducted from 1953-1964. As you may recall, MKULTRA was an "umbrella project" under which certain sensitive subprojects were funded, involving among other things research on drugs and behavioral modification. During the Rockefeller Commission and Church Committee investigations in 1975, the cryptonym became publicly known when details of the drug-related death of Dr. Frank Olsen were publicized. In 1953 Dr. Olsen, a civilian employee of the Army at Fort Detrick, leaped to his death from a hotel room window in New York City about a week after having unwittingly consumed LSD administered to him as an experiment at a meeting of LSD researchers called by CIA. Most of what was known about the Agency's involvement with behavioral drugs during the investigations in 1975 was contained in a report on Project MKULTRA prepared by the Inspector General's office in 1963. As a result of that report's recommendations, unwitting testing of drugs on U.S. citizens was subsequently discontinued. The MKULTRA-related report was made available to the Church Committee investigators and to the staff of Senator Kennedy's Subcommittee on Health. Until the recent discovery, it was believed that all of the MKULTRA files dealing with behavioral modification had been destroyed in 1973 on the orders of the then retiring Chief of the Office of Technical Service, with the authorization of the DCI, as has been previously reported. Almost all of the people who had had any connection with the aspects of the project which interested Senate investigators in 1975 were no longer with the Agency at that time. Thus, there was little detailed knowledge of the MKULTRA subprojects available to CIA during the Church Committee investigations. The 1963 Inspector General report on MKULTRA made available to both the Church Committee and Senator Kennedy's Subcommittee mentions electro-shock and harassment substances (pp. 4, 16); covert testing on unwitting U.S. citizens (pp. 7, 10-12); the search for new materials through arrangements with specialists in universities, pharmaceutical houses, hospitals, state and federal institutions, and private research organizations (pp. 7, 9); and the fact that the Technical Service Division of CIA had initiated 144 subprojects related to the control of human behavior between 1953-1963 (p. 21)." -Admiral Stansfield Turner, Director of Central Intelligence, U.S. Senate Hearing on MKULTRA, 1973 www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1950/mkultra/index.htm "QKHILLTOP was a cryptonym assigned in 1954 to a project to study Chinese Communist brainwashing techniques and to develop interrogation techniques. Most of the early studies are believed to have been conducted by the Cornell University Medical School Human Ecology Study Programs. The effort was absorbed into the MKULTRA program and the QKHILLTOP cryptonym became obsolete." -U.S. Senate Hearing on MKULTRA, Appendix C, QKHILLTOP DEFINITION, 1973 www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1950/mkultra/AppendixC.htm "The concepts involved in manipulating behavior are found by many people both within and outside the Agency to be distasteful and unethical. Nevertheless, there have been major accomplishments both in research and operational employment. Over the ten-year life of the program many additional avenues to the control of human behavior have been designated under the MKULTRA charter, including radiation, electro-shock, and harassment substances. Some activities raise questions of legality implicit in the original charter. A final phase of the testing places the rights and interests of US citizens in jeopardy. Technical Services Division initiated a program for covert testing of materials on unwitting US citizens in 1955. TSD has pursued a philosophy of minimum documentation in keeping with the high sensitivity of the projects. Some files contained little or no data at all. There are just two individuals in TSD who have full knowledge of the MKULTRA program, and most of that knowledge is unrecorded." -MEMORANDUM FOR: Director of Central Intelligence FROM: CIA Inspector General, NB 108-113, 26 July 1963 www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrol#_ednref13 "We need a program of psychosurgery for political control of our society. The purpose is physical control of the mind. Everyone who deviates from the given norm can be surgically mutilated. The individual may think that the most important reality is his own existence, but this is only his personal point of view. This lacks historical perspective. Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electrical stimulation of the brain." -Dr. Jose Delgado, Director of Neuropsychiatry, Yale University Medical School prof and CIA mind control scientist, Congressional Record, No 26, vol 118 February 24th, 1974 "'They're hurting us. Get me out!' The Government was playing with her brain. They opened up her skull and cut into her brain. The only reason you do that is to lobotomize somebody. They did it over, and over..." -Dr Simon Tam, Firefly
Saturday, April 21, 2007 2:53 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:37 PM
PIRATECAT
Monday, April 23, 2007 3:41 AM
Friday, August 30, 2024 9:14 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Friday, August 30, 2024 9:23 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ShinyEd: This maniac Cho should NEVER have been allowed to be walking around free.
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