the pilot (unshown) by wytchcroft

FIREFLY EPISODE DISCUSSIONS

the pilot (unshown)

POSTED BY: WYTCHCROFT
UPDATED: Friday, October 5, 2007 12:04
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Monday, September 24, 2007 1:01 PM

just watched it again - and wondered, especially since it's different again to the script - how people feel it shades the characters - any differently??

i'll shove my oar in later...

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Monday, September 24, 2007 1:05 PM

PENGUIN

I really noticed a difference in the Book-Inara supper scene. Book was very intolerant...

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Monday, September 24, 2007 1:27 PM

WYTCHCROFT

yeh you're right -
i guess it was less of a cliche (maybe) to show him as friendly...
but i never minded friction between characters in a show.
(one reason why i like certain episodes of angel is that the main characters disaprove of each other etc).

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Monday, September 24, 2007 2:23 PM

NBZ

I thought Book was more "on the ball" in that original version.

"What you do is legal. I doubt I can say the same about anything else on this ship."

I also preferred the starting of this one. The whole starting with the space scene, having a few more classy lines.

"Think happy thoughts, Jayne"

A few people have been put off by the newer war scene start. "It's a war series. They are boring." within the first five minutes. or "erm... where is the starting?" as I was dumbly thinking, assuming I had somehow missed half an episode or something... No one would start a series in the middle of a firefight. right? right?

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Monday, September 24, 2007 2:26 PM

WYTCHCROFT

that's one of the things that made me post -
having re-read Those Left Behind (coz of an earlier post!) -
i back tracked and... the unshown pilot is the same sorta fella...

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Monday, September 24, 2007 3:02 PM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

Did I miss a memo or something? What unshown pilot?

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Monday, September 24, 2007 3:06 PM

PENGUIN

The original version of the pilot that Fox made Joss re-edit...

http://versaphile.com/download/firefly.html - the last entry

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Monday, September 24, 2007 6:18 PM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

Oh. Thanks!

I did like Book a little better in this one, but the background music was not as much to my liking. I do sort of prefer the whole big war scene tie-in (or even the "whose colors is he flying" bit) rather than having Zoe explain it, and the whole "we won" thing, because they show how much Mal was affected by it right at the get-go.

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Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:42 AM

WYTCHCROFT

yeh - you can see the kind of Mal they were primed for - more the BDM type... (the changes are small but signifcant) still, the final one FEELS right - but maybe only since i've watched it more times??

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Friday, September 28, 2007 7:28 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

How do I find the whole unshown pilot? Or the shown pilot? Are they both on the dvds? I'm new to DVDs, sorry if it" a dumb Q. Bought a DVD player at the millevium, finally opened the box after buying Firefly, Serenity, Dark Angel.
Thanks for any help.

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Friday, October 5, 2007 12:04 PM

WYTCHCROFT

well the shown pilot is on the dvd first. the unshown pilot is only on the web - you can download it as two parts - but that's ok surely? there's no ad breaks:) it's on this thread...

also there's the scripts... different again...

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