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Episode sequence?

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Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:03 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I've been trying to find out and understand the sequence of episodes, the way they were intended to be shot/aired. I understand the air dates are not sequential, nor the sequence on the DVDs (all the cast mention Message was the last episode they did).
I haven't found it yet.
Is the following correct?

Ep 1. (pilot) Serenity.
Air date 20 Dec 02

Ep 2. The Train Job. Script date 8 Jul 02.
Air date 20 Sep 02.

Ep 3. Bushwacked.
Air Date 27 Sep 02.

Ep 4. Our Mrs. Reynolds.
Air date 4 Oct 02.

Ep 5. Shindig. Script date 2 Aug 02.
Air date 1 Nov 02.

Ep 6 (never filmed) Dead or Alive. Writer's draft date 16 Aug 02.

(no episode aired 11 Oct 02)

Ep 6 (filmed) Safe. Script date 27 August 02.
Air date 8 Nov 02.

Ep 7. Jaynestown. Script date 11 Sep 02.
Air date 18 Oct 02.

Ep 8. Out of Gas.
Air date 25 Oct 02.

Ep 9. Ariel. Script date 3 Oct 02.
Air date 15 Nov 02.

(no episode aired 22 Nov or 29 Nov 02.)

Ep 10. War Stories. Script date 16 Oct 02.
Air date 6 Dec 02.

Ep 11. Heart of Gold. Script dates 29, 30, 31 Oct, 16 Dec 02.
Air date listed as 1 Jan 03, or never aired.

Ep 12. Objects in Space. Script date 12 Nov 02.
Air date 13 Dec 02.

Ep 13. Trash. Script date 27 Nov 02.
Air date listed as 1 Jan 03, or never aired.

Ep 14. The Message. Script dates 10, 12, 16 Dec 02.
(final episode filmed, canncellation announced during filming.)
Air date listed as 1 Jan 03, or never aired.

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Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:15 PM

PHOENIXROSE

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I'm pretty sure Dead or Alive was intended to be filmed sometime after The Message (but not directly after; something about not wanting to have 'old war buddy of the week' going on) and none of the characters had really gotten to the point where it would have worked, especially Simon. Other than that, I think you're essentially correct.


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Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:07 PM

MRBEN


As far as I understand it, the order on the DVD boxset _is_ the correct order in which Joss intended for them to be shown. The Message was the last episode filmed, but filmmakers don't tend to shoot things in the order that they intend to show them.

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Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:59 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


?
I don'y see Jayne's cherished mom hat in anything else until BDM.

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Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:09 AM

MRBEN


Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
?
I don'y see Jayne's cherished mom hat in anything else until BDM.



There are many things you only see once in Firefly. (To be honest I don't recall seeing it in the BDM either?) Absence of an item does not indicate order.

Every canonical source indicates that the order on the DVD is the order that Joss intended. Check any online source, or look in the visual companion.

mrben

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 10:46 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I had meant to update this


Is the following correct?

D1E1 Ep 1. (2 hr Pilot) Serenity.
Air date 20 Dec 02.

D1E2 Ep 2. The Train Job. Script date 8 Jul 02.
Air date 20 Sep 02.

D1E3 Ep 3. Bushwacked.
Air Date 27 Sep 02.

D2E1 Ep 4. Shindig. Script date 2 Aug 02.
Air date 1 Nov 02.

D2E2 Ep 5. Safe. Script date 27 Aug 02.
Air date 8 Nov 02.

D2E3 Ep 6. Our Mrs. Reynolds.
Air date 4 Oct 02.

Ep 6 (never filmed) Dead or Alive. Writer's draft date 16 Aug 02.

(no episode aired 11 Oct 02)

D2E4 Ep 7. Jaynestown. Script date 11 Sep 02.
Air date 18 Oct 02.

D3E1 Ep 8. Out of Gas.
Air date 25 Oct 02.

D3E2 Ep 9. Ariel. Script date 3 Oct 02.
Air date 15 Nov 02.

(no episode aired 22 Nov or 29 Nov 02.)

D3E3 Ep 10. War Stories. Script date 16 Oct 02.
Air date 6 Dec 02.

D3E4 Ep 11. Trash. Script date 27 Nov 02.
Air date listed as 1 Jan 03, or never aired.

D4E1 Ep 12. The Message. Script dates 10,12,16 Dec 02.
(final episode filmed, cancellation announced during filming of this episode).
Air date listed as 1 Jan 03 or never aired.

D4E2 Ep 13. Heart of Gold. Script dates 29, 30, 31 Oct, 16 Dec 02.
Air date listed as 1 Jan 03, or never aired.

D4E3 Ep 14. Objects in Space. Script date 12 Nov 02.
Air date 13 Dec 02.




Should we assume Trash was delayed due to censors reviewing the male nudity?

Was there some real world topical reason for jumping OMR ahead of Shindig or Safe broadcast?

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Monday, March 10, 2014 7:27 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Sunday, May 8, 2016 4:17 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I've been trying to find out and understand the sequence of episodes, the way they were intended to be shot/aired. I understand the air dates are not sequential, nor the sequence on the DVDs (all the cast mention Message was the last episode they did).
I haven't found it yet.
Is the following correct?

Ep 1. (pilot) Serenity.
Air date 20 Dec 02

Ep 2. The Train Job. Script date 8 Jul 02.
Air date 20 Sep 02.

Ep 3. Bushwacked.
Air Date 27 Sep 02.

Ep 4. Our Mrs. Reynolds.
Air date 4 Oct 02.

Ep 5. Shindig. Script date 2 Aug 02.
Air date 1 Nov 02.

Ep 6 (never filmed) Dead or Alive. Writer's draft date 16 Aug 02.

(no episode aired 11 Oct 02)

Ep 6 (filmed) Safe. Script date 27 August 02.
Air date 8 Nov 02.

Ep 7. Jaynestown. Script date 11 Sep 02.
Air date 18 Oct 02.

Ep 8. Out of Gas.
Air date 25 Oct 02.

Ep 9. Ariel. Script date 3 Oct 02.
Air date 15 Nov 02.

(no episode aired 22 Nov or 29 Nov 02.)

Ep 10. War Stories. Script date 16 Oct 02.
Air date 6 Dec 02.

Ep 11. Heart of Gold. Script dates 29, 30, 31 Oct, 16 Dec 02.
Air date listed as 1 Jan 03, or never aired.

Ep 12. Objects in Space. Script date 12 Nov 02.
Air date 13 Dec 02.

Ep 13. Trash. Script date 27 Nov 02.
Air date listed as 1 Jan 03, or never aired.

Ep 14. The Message. Script dates 10, 12, 16 Dec 02.
(final episode filmed, cancellation announced during filming.)
Air date listed as 1 Jan 03, or never aired.



Having learned some answers since this was posted,
This was the correct sequence.
HoG was yanked because the network goons freaked at the western motif of this episode, and this was apparently the reason the show was cancelled.

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