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Monday, February 18, 2008 5:24 AM

KERRARR


I watched Serenity not to long ago and
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When Wash says "I'm a leaf on the wind, watch me s..." and then the

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pole goes through him

. Even befor it happens, i start to cry. When you first watch it you don't see it coming, i mean Book, okay ya kinda saw that comin, but Wash? They had to

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kill

the only married man didn't they.


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Monday, February 18, 2008 5:46 AM

GWEK


Sure, that's sad and all, but to me, the saddest part of Firefly/Serenity ever was Mal's speech at the end of the pilot ("We're still flying, and that's enough...") when it was originally broadcast on Fox AFTER we knew the show had been cancelled. :(

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

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Monday, February 18, 2008 5:46 AM

ASARIAN


Changed my mind...

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Monday, February 18, 2008 5:59 AM

BROWNCOATOFNH


For me, I can't choose which is sadder

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Book's or Wash's death



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Monday, February 18, 2008 6:04 AM

SCOUSERATHEART


The saddest part of Firefly for me was River's speech from Early's ship. Until that point we really didn't know that River was aware enough to realize that most of the crew treated her as a bother. She vocalized that harsh reality and it just about broke my heart. I really thought she was leaving on Early's ship. Then Joss does what he always does and flips our emotions.

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Monday, February 18, 2008 6:04 AM

YELLOWJACKET


I certainly think that Shepherd Book's death deserves an honorable mention.

As for Wash...

I remember walking out of the theater and everyone said, "What a horrible waste for Wash to die like that." I just looked at them and said, "Do you really think so? It seemed poignant to me. He died just a moment after achieving what every pilot hopes to achieve when the chips are down. He brought the ship to a safe, albiet butt-clenching stop, after a free fall of epic proportions. Sure he died, but only after saving the lives of every single person on board. The pure majesty of flight is always balanced by the pragmatism of returning safely to ground. Wash's death might seem meaningless to some, but not in my estimation."


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Monday, February 18, 2008 6:10 AM

MYCREW


In "Heart of Gold" when Inara is crying over Mal. Heartbreaking.

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Monday, February 18, 2008 7:06 AM

ASARIAN


Actually, I changed my mind (yes, mind-changing is allowed here). Wash' death was the most shocking. Yet the truly saddest moment, for me, is when River crawls out of cryo, so bewildered and helpless:

"Simon... They talk to me, they want me to..."

I sooo felt for her! That scene makes me cry every time!

"They're gone... they're gone and we're safe now."

It's also one of the most beautiful moments.


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Monday, February 18, 2008 7:21 AM

PHYRELIGHT


The last scene of The Message always gets me all misty-eyed.



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Monday, February 18, 2008 7:27 AM

PHYRELIGHT


And, in War Stories when River says:
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The sun came out and I walked on my feet, heard with my ears... I hate the bits, the bits that stay down and I work, I function like I'm a girl. I hate it because I know it'll go away, the sun goes dark and chaos is come again. Bits. Fluids... What am I?
I've kinda been there, so I knew what she meant by hating good days.




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Monday, February 18, 2008 7:29 AM

ASARIAN


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Originally posted by PhyreLight:

And, in War Stories when River says:
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The sun came out and I walked on my feet, heard with my ears... I hate the bits, the bits that stay down and I work, I function like I'm a girl. I hate it because I know it'll go away, the sun goes dark and chaos is come again. Bits. Fluids... What am I?
I've kinda been there, so I knew what she meant by hating good days.


Good one!


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Monday, February 18, 2008 7:36 AM

ALLIETHORN7


You mean, besides it ending?
Well... I'd have to say, when Zoe holds up the shotgun to the guys head in the BDM, and tells him the definition of a hero. To have fallen that far in your opinion of humanity (Especially since it is mostly MY opinion)is downright heart wrenching.

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Monday, February 18, 2008 8:37 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Haven't watched the BDM in a while, but I seem to remember a shot near the end, of Inara in her empty shuttle, crying, I think.

and the end of The Message. almost a classic tragedy on the TV screen.

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Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:21 AM

KERRARR


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Originally posted by yellowjacket:
I certainly think that Shepherd Book's death deserves an honorable mention.

As for Wash...

I remember walking out of the theater and everyone said, "What a horrible waste for Wash to die like that." I just looked at them and said, "Do you really think so? It seemed poignant to me. He died just a moment after achieving what every pilot hopes to achieve when the chips are down. He brought the ship to a safe, albiet butt-clenching stop, after a free fall of epic proportions. Sure he died, but only after saving the lives of every single person on board. The pure majesty of flight is always balanced by the pragmatism of returning safely to ground. Wash's death might seem meaningless to some, but not in my estimation."



I wish Wash didn't die, but your totaly right.
At least he died after doing something good.

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Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:54 AM

OUT2THEBLACK


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Originally posted by Alliethorn7:
You mean, besides it ending?
Well... I'd have to say, when Zoe holds up the shotgun to the guys head in the BDM, and tells him the definition of a hero. To have fallen that far in your opinion of humanity (Especially since it is mostly MY opinion)is downright heart wrenching.

-Danny

The Band of the week is... Death Cab for Cutie
Gott weiß ich will kein Engel sein.




Just a quibble...It ain't a 'shotgun' Zoe's totin' in that scene...It's a rifle...A shotgun's generally a smoothbore weapon that shoots 'shot' , multiple small pellets that scatter in a 'pattern' , whereas a rifle has a 'rifled' barrel , twisting grooves to impart spin to an outgoing bullet...

That's why a shotgun is called a 'scattergun' ,
in the slang fashion...

But if you wanted to call Zoe's weapon a 'levergun' , that would be an acceptable slang expression , 'cause it's a lever-action rifle...

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Sunday, March 16, 2008 12:31 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Quote:

What was the saddest part of firefly/serenity...

When Mal realized the only option that gave them any hope whatever of survival, involved the complete desecration of his ship...

And he had to order it done.

I think a part of him died, right then and there.

-F

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Monday, March 31, 2008 7:19 PM

WASHRULESBABY


the saddest part was when washed died. I mean why did they have to kills wash? in the last episode Zoe and wash where talkin about having a baby. and in the movie he died? That is not right.......




When season 2 starts (SOON I HOPE) I think zoe should be Pregnant.

I am a leaf on the wind

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Monday, March 31, 2008 8:27 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I consider these to be the saddest (paraphrasing a lot):
First of all, I think Joss goofed up and should have left the episodes in the oritginal order, with the message last, and the final scene in the Message should have been the conclusion of the original season.
Then, River in BDM: her monologue before "My Turn"
River in Ariel "I don't want to go to sleep"
River in Pilot "I didn't think you'd come for me"
Kaylee's surgery in Pilot, wityh Jayne crouching outside sickbay.
Out of Gas: Jayne's farewell to Mal.
War Stories: Wash explaining to Zoe "He's crazy"

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Monday, March 31, 2008 9:43 PM

CBSTEVE


I'd have to add these to the list. Sorry if they were already mentioned.

1. Kaylee's look after Mal orders them to leave Simon and River behind in Safe.

2. Book and Inara in her shuttle at the end of the Pilot when he questions why he is on this ship.

3. Simon climbing on the pole with River and telling them to light it in Safe.

4. Mal and Inara exchanging worried looks as Simon operates on Kaylee.

5. River saying they should put a bullet to her brain in the BDM.

6. Saddest of all: Tracey's funeral scene, just because of the music and the looks from all the actors.


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Tuesday, April 1, 2008 2:16 AM

JONGSSTRAW

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Saddest scene for me was in War Stories. Zoe is helping Wash out of that torture room, then Niska's man cuts off Mals' ear...then you hear Mal continuing to scream as the door is shut. Almost un-watchable for me.

In the BDM, aside from the two tragic deaths, I think it's very sad when Kaylee is pleading with Mal when they arrive at The Maidenhead to get River and Simon back on the ship. You can hear in her voice how upset she is, and how fearful she is for their safety. Mal says this is a place of business, although the way he says "we can talk about it later" indicates he is also upset about it.

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Thursday, April 3, 2008 3:37 PM

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What was the saddest part of firefly/serenity...




That we never got anymore.


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Saturday, April 5, 2008 3:26 PM

ORAM


That it was cancelled for a crap show to take it's place.

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Saturday, April 5, 2008 7:45 PM

FIREFLYPASSENGER


Inara crying gets me everytime.

Serenity is not Firefly, its more like an alternate timeline. I still can't accept Book and Wash as real.

River's speech comes second, so sad.

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Saturday, April 5, 2008 8:53 PM

MEIMEICOBB


I always cry when Book dies, and Mal tells him that he is apart of the crew. Even if I don't cry, I get choked up. I love my preacher-man.

When Tracey's message is playing as they bring his body out; you know that the message wasn't intended for his parents in that way, but when you listen to it over again, knowing he is dead, that's sad too. "When you can't run anymore, you
crawl... and when you can't do that..." Yeah, sad.

Someone mentioned in the pilot when River first crawls out of the box; that moment between River and Simon is indeed very touching, and it's very sad on so many levels.


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Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:40 PM

FIREFLYTOSERENITY101


The saddest part to me, is when in Out Of Gas, Mal gets shot and he flashes back to when he first got the ship. And the ending when he is gazing at what is now Serenity, knowing what happened through the episode.

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Thursday, May 28, 2015 7:57 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I consider these to be the saddest (paraphrasing a lot):
First of all, I think Joss goofed up and should have left the episodes in the oritginal order, with the message last, and the final scene in the Message should have been the conclusion of the original season.
Then, River in BDM: her monologue before "My Turn"
River in Ariel "I don't want to go to sleep"
River in Pilot "I didn't think you'd come for me"
Kaylee's surgery in Pilot, wityh Jayne crouching outside sickbay.
Out of Gas: Jayne's farewell to Mal.
War Stories: Wash explaining to Zoe "He's crazy"


Interesting how the passage of 7 years, plus the numerous rewatches changes the priority, or doesn't.
I'll add Mal to Inara: We all die alone.
Mal to crew, regarding Inara's wave: Did you see us fight? Sad because the fighting seemed to indicate the useless pursuit of the chemistry all knew they had.
The lovebot speaking for Mr Universe, since he was dead.
The Tracy funeral scene in The Message.

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Thursday, May 28, 2015 10:56 PM

AURAPTOR

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"I didn't think you'd come for me."
"Well you're a dummy."

Simon's big brotherly love for River. She apologizes...

River: But I understand. You gave up everything you had to find me. You found me broken. It’s hard for you. You gave up everything you had.

Simon: Mei-mei. Everything I have is right here.


OK, so it may not be sad in the tragic sense, and it actually is very touching and endearing too. But the feeling River had , as she conveys to Simon how she thought she was abandoned, along w/ the all out effort Simon must have given to get her back... both sad and joyful, I suppose.

It's the first thing that came to mind, as it seems to me as the most touching, loving and " real " part of Firefly.

By no means does it stand alone, though. Lots to choose from.


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Friday, May 29, 2015 12:40 AM

MOOSE


I'll add in the end of the battle scene at the start of the pilot.
Mal is watching the Alliance ships coming. You can feel his heart breaking.

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Friday, May 29, 2015 7:10 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Moose:
I'll add in the end of the battle scene at the start of the pilot.
Mal is watching the Alliance ships coming. You can feel his heart breaking.



It's the seminal point for Mal and his loss of faith, no question.

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Friday, May 29, 2015 9:47 AM

THGRRI


Of course Wash and Book being killed would come first but, I think Rivers plight in Objects in Space has to be considered. River was a child and did not chose this life. Not just her being on the run but her psychological troubles due to the alliance and how that causes problems with the crew of Serenity. She has a real moment of clarity when she explains how she doesn't fit in.

She feels everything Simon says in Ariel. The whole Objects episode shows how peoples thoughts about her were full of resentments. Remember what Book said, I don't care if you're innocent or not, what do you think about that, with that crazy look. What was that all about and where would it lead to later?

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Thursday, November 9, 2017 2:52 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


For me, the saddest in BDM Serenity is River's My Turn.
The saddest in BDP Serenity is the shot of Jayne crouching outside the observation port of the Infirmary while Simon is getting surgical with Kaylee.

And now I see I already mentioned that, about 9 1/2 years ago.

And reading the other posts, I should add in BDP Serenity, when Mal kisses his Crucifix at the Battle of Serenity Valley. The first watching didn't mean much, because I watched the episodes in order. But after the many times in the series when he decries Religion, then to see this was the last time he Believed. This also applies because the Pilot was the last episode aired, presenting this same sequence.

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Friday, November 10, 2017 5:10 AM

DBELL101


One scene not mentioned so far was the scene in SAFE where Simon and River are
eating berries and River mentions their parents not knowing their father has cut Simon off for trying to rescue her.

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Friday, November 10, 2017 5:23 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by dbell101:
One scene not mentioned so far was the scene in SAFE where Simon and River are
eating berries and River mentions their parents not knowing their father has cut Simon off for trying to rescue her.

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It's That People Don't Learn From History.
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I don't remember her saying that. Just watched Safe last night, 15 years after original airing. I'll check again.

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Saturday, November 11, 2017 2:29 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by dbell101:
One scene not mentioned so far was the scene in SAFE where Simon and River are
eating berries and River mentions their parents not knowing their father has cut Simon off for trying to rescue her.

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If History Is Remarkably Clear On One Point,
It's That People Don't Learn From History.
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I don't remember her saying that. Just watched Safe last night, 15 years after original airing. I'll check again.

Just watched again. Didn't find those words in any scene like that. But that scene does have the lines quoted by AuRaptor above.
Those are sad once the story is known, but I think the power of those lines are diluted by the relevant flashback coming afterwards.

But if River did say that about her Dad and Simon, it could have also been sad, given Summer's delivery.

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