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[ The Postman.

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At the risk of agreeing with Hero, the Postman was a pretty good flick, very textured & ultimately patriotic & optimistic.

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This isn't RWED ya know - you're allowed to agree here.

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Rather have the hope that Firelfy offers, that the average person can still make it, honorably.

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Good one! As a dystopia geek, I cannot believe I forgot that one.

However, I'm not too sure I agree with War of the Worlds, Mad Max, Starship Troopers, etc. being dystopia, and I'm still on the fence about Terminator. Personally, I'd classify those as apocalyptic. I know that some take the category of "dystopia" to signify a genre of stories set in a bleak future, but it seems to me that also many of the stories tend toward certain kinds of bleak futures, especially totalitarian/micromanaged/conspiracy-filled ones.

Of course, one could always say that there are actually two sub-genres to the dystopian genre; apocalyptic dystopia, and totalitarian/"corrupt government" dystopia.

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Good one! As a dystopia geek, I cannot believe I forgot that one.

However, I'm not too sure I agree with War of the Worlds, Mad Max, Starship Troopers, etc. being dystopia, and I'm still on the fence about Terminator. Personally, I'd classify those as apocalyptic. I know that some take the category of "dystopia" to signify a genre of stories set in a bleak future, but it seems to me that also many of the stories tend toward certain kinds of bleak futures, especially totalitarian/micromanaged/conspiracy-filled ones.

Of course, one could always say that there are actually two sub-genres to the dystopian genre; apocalyptic dystopia, and totalitarian/"corrupt government" dystopia.

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you mean like Primary Colors or Wag the Dog?

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I've never seen those movies, but basically, my examples of these type of dystopias would be our own Serenity, the book and movie 1984, the book and movie Brave New World, the book The Giver, Total Recall, The Island, Soylent Green, Fahrenheit 451, and maybe even A Scanner Darkly. I'm currently writing a dystopian novel myself, and it's defintely a storyline that I'd call dystopian.

I might even nail down The Manchurian Candidate as a dystopia, and Fringe and The X-Files teeters on the line between regular conspiracy thriller/sci-fi show and true dystopia(what with Massive Dynamic and the Syndicate).

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Do you include Minority Report?
You might not include Mad Max, but do Road Warrior?
Agree with you on Starship Troopers, War of Worlds.
I'm thinking Terminator in the sense of humans allowing Skynet to take over without considering the consequences.

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MINORITY REPORT....oh man....I love that movie! And yes, I'd DEFINTELY identify it as a dystopia. Goverment arresting people for crimes they have not already committed, and holds the people in fear? Oh yeah. That's a dystopia.

I've never seen Road Warrior...now I have to check it out.

Hmmmm.....true.........it's kind of like a "The X-Files" with cyborgs. Except worse. Okay, that's a dystopia.
I, Robot almost became one, what with VIKI and her robot minions trying to control mankind.

This thread gets more and more intriguing.

Mrs. Universe

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EDIT: The Matrix series and Dark City also qualify. Maybe, just maybe even The Truman Show. But that's a bit of a stretch.

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Good one! As a dystopia geek, I cannot believe I forgot that one.

However, I'm not too sure I agree with War of the Worlds, Mad Max, Starship Troopers, etc. being dystopia, and I'm still on the fence about Terminator. Personally, I'd classify those as apocalyptic. I know that some take the category of "dystopia" to signify a genre of stories set in a bleak future, but it seems to me that also many of the stories tend toward certain kinds of bleak futures, especially totalitarian/micromanaged/conspiracy-filled ones.

Of course, one could always say that there are actually two sub-genres to the dystopian genre; apocalyptic dystopia, and totalitarian/"corrupt government" dystopia.

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you mean like Primary Colors or Wag the Dog?

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I've never seen those movies, but basically, my examples of these type of dystopias would be our own Serenity, the book and movie 1984, the book and movie Brave New World, the book The Giver, Total Recall, The Island, Soylent Green, Fahrenheit 451, and maybe even A Scanner Darkly. I'm currently writing a dystopian novel myself, and it's defintely a storyline that I'd call dystopian.

I might even nail down The Manchurian Candidate as a dystopia, and Fringe and The X-Files teeters on the line between regular conspiracy thriller/sci-fi show and true dystopia(what with Massive Dynamic and the Syndicate).

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Do you include Minority Report?
You might not include Mad Max, but do Road Warrior?
Agree with you on Starship Troopers, War of Worlds.
I'm thinking Terminator in the sense of humans allowing Skynet to take over without considering the consequences.

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MINORITY REPORT....oh man....I love that movie! And yes, I'd DEFINTELY identify it as a dystopia. Goverment arresting people for crimes they have not already committed, and holds the people in fear? Oh yeah. That's a dystopia.

I've never seen Road Warrior...now I have to check it out.

Hmmmm.....true.........it's kind of like a "The X-Files" with cyborgs. Except worse. Okay, that's a dystopia.
I, Robot almost became one, what with VIKI and her robot minions trying to control mankind.

This thread gets more and more intriguing.

Mrs. Universe

MR. UNIVERSE----> <----MRS. UNIVERSE

EDIT: The Matrix series and Dark City also qualify. Maybe, just maybe even The Truman Show. But that's a bit of a stretch.

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Mad Max could be considered just hooligans run amok, not the whole of society dysfunctional. Road Warrior has the same primary character, but after some level of magor event, and the society is similar to The Postman, somewhat tribal or nomadic.

I thought Truman Show was just voyeurism run wild, the precursor to our xcurrent reality tv.

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Good one! As a dystopia geek, I cannot believe I forgot that one.

However, I'm not too sure I agree with War of the Worlds, Mad Max, Starship Troopers, etc. being dystopia, and I'm still on the fence about Terminator. Personally, I'd classify those as apocalyptic. I know that some take the category of "dystopia" to signify a genre of stories set in a bleak future, but it seems to me that also many of the stories tend toward certain kinds of bleak futures, especially totalitarian/micromanaged/conspiracy-filled ones.

Of course, one could always say that there are actually two sub-genres to the dystopian genre; apocalyptic dystopia, and totalitarian/"corrupt government" dystopia.

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you mean like Primary Colors or Wag the Dog?

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I've never seen those movies, but basically, my examples of these type of dystopias would be our own Serenity, the book and movie 1984, the book and movie Brave New World, the book The Giver, Total Recall, The Island, Soylent Green, Fahrenheit 451, and maybe even A Scanner Darkly. I'm currently writing a dystopian novel myself, and it's defintely a storyline that I'd call dystopian.

I might even nail down The Manchurian Candidate as a dystopia, and Fringe and The X-Files teeters on the line between regular conspiracy thriller/sci-fi show and true dystopia(what with Massive Dynamic and the Syndicate).

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Do you include Minority Report?
You might not include Mad Max, but do Road Warrior?
Agree with you on Starship Troopers, War of Worlds.
I'm thinking Terminator in the sense of humans allowing Skynet to take over without considering the consequences.

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MINORITY REPORT....oh man....I love that movie! And yes, I'd DEFINTELY identify it as a dystopia. Goverment arresting people for crimes they have not already committed, and holds the people in fear? Oh yeah. That's a dystopia.

I've never seen Road Warrior...now I have to check it out.

Hmmmm.....true.........it's kind of like a "The X-Files" with cyborgs. Except worse. Okay, that's a dystopia.
I, Robot almost became one, what with VIKI and her robot minions trying to control mankind.

This thread gets more and more intriguing.

Mrs. Universe

MR. UNIVERSE----> <----MRS. UNIVERSE

EDIT: The Matrix series and Dark City also qualify. Maybe, just maybe even The Truman Show. But that's a bit of a stretch.

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Mad Max could be considered just hooligans run amok, not the whole of society dysfunctional. Road Warrior has the same primary character, but after some level of magor event, and the society is similar to The Postman, somewhat tribal or nomadic.

I thought Truman Show was just voyeurism run wild, the precursor to our xcurrent reality tv.

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Yeah, I'll have to agree with you on Mad Max. And like I said, The Truman Show is quite a strech, so yeah......not a true dystopia.

Mrs. Universe

MR. UNIVERSE----> <----MRS. UNIVERSE