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Iraqi whore throws his shoes at the Prez
Sunday, December 14, 2008 8:24 AM
WHOZIT
Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:01 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Quote:Bush wasn’t hit by the shoes, which both sailed over his head after they were thrown one after the other. The president shrugged and said “I’m OK” after the incident in Baghdad today. “All I can report is it is a size 10,” Bush said afterwards.
Quote:Bush said today’s incident was an example of free speech in a democracy.
Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:04 PM
FUTUREMRSFILLION
Quote:Originally posted by whozit: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=081214175033.cnbkqgnx&show_article=1 Maybe he just wanted to get is attention? I'm going to microwave a bagel and have sex with it - Peter Griffin
Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:05 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:08 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Sunday, December 14, 2008 1:44 PM
GINOBIFFARONI
Sunday, December 14, 2008 1:56 PM
ZZETTA13
Sunday, December 14, 2008 2:17 PM
Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:33 PM
DREAMTROVE
Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:03 PM
JRC
Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:38 PM
PHOENIXROSE
You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: So, here's a random thought: If McCain, born in US occupied Panama, was allowed to run for president, is Arnie, who was born in US occupied Austria allowed to run? How about an kid born in US occupied Iraq? Someday...
Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:41 PM
PIRATECAT
Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:44 PM
Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:42 PM
Monday, December 15, 2008 6:30 AM
Monday, December 15, 2008 7:05 AM
Quote:"This is not my husband but his double. Where is my husband? Take me to my husband!" -Mrs Saddam Hussein, US Army concentration camp in Qatar www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/june2004/061804saddamnotsaddam.htm
Monday, December 15, 2008 7:59 AM
STORYMARK
Monday, December 15, 2008 10:37 AM
PIZMOBEACH
... fully loaded, safety off...
Monday, December 15, 2008 10:39 AM
Monday, December 15, 2008 10:48 AM
Monday, December 15, 2008 2:53 PM
Quote: PHOENIX ROSE McCain wasn't considered a natural born citizen because the US was occupying the country he was born in, but because his parents were both citizens and he was born on a US military base, considered to be US soil, much the same way as an embassy in a foreign country is US soil. So, no.
Monday, December 15, 2008 3:17 PM
MALBADINLATIN
Monday, December 15, 2008 5:22 PM
Monday, December 15, 2008 5:30 PM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Monday, December 15, 2008 6:20 PM
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:40 AM
Quote:Shoe thrower 'beaten in custody' The $10-Million Shoe Man BBC News Muntadar al-Zaidi has allegedly suffered a broken arm, broken ribs and internal bleeding, his older brother, Dargham, told the BBC. The head of Iraq's journalists' union has asked the government for clemency towards the journalist who is still in custody. A military spokesman said Mr Zaidi was now being held by the judicial authorities who would decide whether he faces charges. Earlier, Dargham al-Zaidi told the BBC's Caroline Wyatt in Baghdad he believed his brother had been taken to a US military hospital in the Iraqi capital. Hero figure A second day of rallies in support of Mr Zaidi were held across Iraq, calling for his release. Meanwhile, offers to buy the shoes he threw are being made around the Arab world, reports say. Mr Zaidi told our correspondent that despite offers from many lawyers his brother has not been given access to a legal representative since being arrested by forces under the command of Mowaffaq al-Rubaie, Iraq's national security adviser. The Iraqi authorities have said the 28-year-old will be prosecuted under Iraqi law, although it is not yet clear what the charges might be. Iraqi lawyers have speculated that he could face charges of insulting a foreign leader and the Iraqi Prime Minister, Nouri Maliki, who was standing next to President Bush during the incident. The offence carries a maximum penalty of two years in jail. Our correspondent says that the previously little-known journalist from the private Cairo-based al-Baghdadia TV has become a hero to many, not just in Iraq but across the Arab world, for what many saw as a fitting send-off for a deeply unpopular US president. As he flung the shoes, Mr Zaidi shouted: "This is a goodbye kiss from the Iraqi people, dog." Dargham al-Zaidi told the BBC that his brother deliberately bought Iraqi-made shoes, which were dark brown with laces. They were bought from a shop on al-Khyam street, a well-known shopping street in central Baghdad. Abducted by insurgents The shoes themselves are said to have attracted bids from around the Arab world. According to unconfirmed newspaper reports, the former coach of the Iraqi national football team, Adnan Hamad, has offered $100,000 (£65,000) for the shoes, while a Saudi citizen has apparently offered $10m (£6.5m). The daughter of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, Aicha, said her charity would honour the reporter with a medal of courage, saying his action was a "victory for human rights". The charity called on the media to support Mr Zaidi and put pressure on the Iraqi government to free him. Mr Zaidi, who lives in Baghdad, has worked for al-Baghdadia for three years. Muzhir al-Khafaji, programming director for the channel, described him as a "proud Arab and an open-minded man". He said that Mr Zaidi was a graduate of communications from Baghdad University. "He has no ties with the former regime. His family was arrested under Saddam's regime," he said. Mr Zaidi has previously been abducted by insurgents and held twice for questioning by US forces in Iraq. In November 2007 he was kidnapped by a gang on his way to work in central Baghdad and released three days later without a ransom. He said at the time that the kidnappers had beaten him until he lost consciousness, and used his necktie to blindfold him. Mr Zaidi never learned the identity of his kidnappers, who questioned him about his work before letting him go. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7785338.stm
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:52 AM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by JRC: Remember, that journalist would not be alive right now.
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:54 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Storymark: Pretty impressive reflexes Dubya's got there. I will give him that.
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:43 AM
Quote:Iraq rally for Bush shoe attacker Quote:"He deserves to be hit with 100, not just one or two shoes. Who wants him to come here?" -A Baghdad resident Thousands of Iraqis have demanded the release of a local TV reporter who threw his shoes at US President George W Bush at a Baghdad news conference. Crowds gathered in Baghdad's Sadr City district, calling for "hero" Muntadar al-Zaidi to be freed from custody. Officials at the Iraqi-owned TV station, al-Baghdadiya, called for the release of their journalist, saying he was exercising freedom of expression. An Iraqi official was quoted by the Associated Press as saying that the journalist was being interrogated to determine whether anybody paid him to throw his shoes at President Bush. He was also being tested for alcohol and drugs, and his shoes were being held as evidence, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity. The Cairo-based al-Baghdadiya TV channel said Mr Zaidi should be freed because he had been exercising freedom of expression - something which the Americans had promised to Iraqis on the ousting of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. Any measures against Muntadar will be considered the acts of a dictatorial regime," the firm said in a statement. The programming director for al-Baghdadiya, Muzhir al-Khafaji, described the journalist as a "proud Arab and an open-minded man". He said he was afraid for Mr Zaidi's safety, adding that the reporter had been arrested by US officials twice before. "We fear that our correspondents in Iraq will be arrested. We have 200 correspondents there," he added. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7783608.stm
Quote:"He deserves to be hit with 100, not just one or two shoes. Who wants him to come here?" -A Baghdad resident
Quote:"Hi, everybody. The shoe check-in policy/check-out policy will begin tomorrow. -Dana Perino, White House press whore Pentagon's Unmanned Spokesdrone Gives Press Conference
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:44 AM
RIVERLOVE
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by JRC: Remember, that journalist would not be alive right now. You know that for a fact, Kreskin? Stop. The shaking head Chrisisall
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: It's not a fact, it's a reasonable assumption based on previous realities.
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: It's not a fact, it's a reasonable assumption based on previous realities. In the context of JRC's post, I took him to mean that in an Iraq with Hussein, the journalist would not be alive for merely being a journalist; of course all that you posted would have happened if he even looked at Saddam with contempt. I guess I misread the meaning. Anyone even remember Kreskin, btw? The retracting Chrisisall
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:42 AM
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:43 AM
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: The shoe thrower's family was tortured by CIA's Saddam. Nothing has changed. Except USA is bankrupt. Quote:Iraq rally for Bush shoe attacker Quote:"He deserves to be hit with 100, not just one or two shoes. Who wants him to come here?" -A Baghdad resident Thousands of Iraqis have demanded the release of a local TV reporter who threw his shoes at US President George W Bush at a Baghdad news conference. Crowds gathered in Baghdad's Sadr City district, calling for "hero" Muntadar al-Zaidi to be freed from custody. Officials at the Iraqi-owned TV station, al-Baghdadiya, called for the release of their journalist, saying he was exercising freedom of expression. An Iraqi official was quoted by the Associated Press as saying that the journalist was being interrogated to determine whether anybody paid him to throw his shoes at President Bush. He was also being tested for alcohol and drugs, and his shoes were being held as evidence, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity. The Cairo-based al-Baghdadiya TV channel said Mr Zaidi should be freed because he had been exercising freedom of expression - something which the Americans had promised to Iraqis on the ousting of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. Any measures against Muntadar will be considered the acts of a dictatorial regime," the firm said in a statement. The programming director for al-Baghdadiya, Muzhir al-Khafaji, described the journalist as a "proud Arab and an open-minded man". He said he was afraid for Mr Zaidi's safety, adding that the reporter had been arrested by US officials twice before. "We fear that our correspondents in Iraq will be arrested. We have 200 correspondents there," he added. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7783608.stm Dana Paerino gets black eye Quote:"Hi, everybody. The shoe check-in policy/check-out policy will begin tomorrow. -Dana Perino, White House press whore Pentagon's Unmanned Spokesdrone Gives Press Conference In the U.S. the question being asked is: Why weren't any of the Secret Service close enough to take a shoe for the president? What went wrong with the elaborate system that's supposed to protect the president? Ex-agent Patrick Lennon said: 'I thought they would have responded after the first shoe. 'Thank God, Bush apparently played a little dodge ball when he was younger. Hero earns $10-MILLION for 2-seconds work A Saudi businessman has offered $10million for one of the shoes, Saudi television has reported. Hasan Mohammad Makhaffa, who owns lands and properties south-west of Saudi Arabia, claims the sum he offered is an auction 'starting price'. Makhafa, 60, a retired teacher said: 'I consider the shoes the most precious of all my real estate and property, and I will leave them behind as inheritance for my children, to become the shrine, a Medal of Freedom.' Meanwhile, thousands of Iraqis took to the streets again today to demand the release of the journalist. Mr Zeidi had yelled 'This is a farewell kiss, you dog. This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq,' as he hurled the footwear during a press conference in Baghdad on Sunday. George Bush is a war criminal says 1000s at protest in Najaf, Iraq, today Mr Zeidi's TV station, Al Baghdadia, screened repeated pleas for his release, while showing footage of explosions and playing music that denounced the U.S. in Iraq. Al Jazeera TV interviewed Saddam's former chief lawyer Khalil al-Dulaimi, who offered to defend Mr Zeidi and called him a hero. In Baghdad's Sadr City, thousands of supporters of radical Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr burned U.S. flags and called for the release of Mr Zeidi. 'Bush, Bush, listen well: Two shoes on your head,' they chanted. In Najaf, a Shia holy city, some protesters-threw their shoes at a U.S. patrol. Responses in other countries were ecstatic. 'Al-Zeidi is the man,' said Jordanian Samer Tabalat. 'He did what Arab leaders failed to do.' In Libya, a charity group headed by leader Muammar Gaddafi's daughter. Demonstrators hate Bush in Mosul, north of Baghdad, Dec 16, 2008 Almost 150,000 U.S. troops remain in Iraq fighting a conflict that is intensely unpopular in the United States and across the globe. More than 4,200 American servicemen and women have died and the war has cost U.S. taxpayers $576 billion (£385 billion) since it began five years and nine months ago. ER, 18 YEARS AGO, AND KILLED 75,000 US SOLDIERS, DISABLED 600,000 US SOLDIERS. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1094654/Bushs-spokeswoman-reveals-battle-scar---black-eye-Baghdad-shoe-fracas.html
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:17 PM
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:28 PM
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:45 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: He won, even if he dies - even if we, or the iraq government we're propping up, beat him to death now... HE WON. Look, all of us are talking it about it, aren't we ? Hundreds, maybe even thousands, of Iraqis are shaking their shoes at Bush, and us for not having the sense to put him in prison instead of the oval office, his single, solitary and very public act inspired many people, exactly as he intended it to do. And if we, or the Iraqi gov harm him now, we give him even more power, by martyring him and driving his own message all the deeper into that society. HE GOT IT DONE. Ponder *that* for a good long while, willya ? -Frem It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:33 PM
Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Yes, a secular society where women could be doctors, engineers and even WMD developers has disappeared in the wake of a more religious Iraq.
Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni: Would'nt it be a hoot now if people shared in his victory by throwing shoes onto the White House lawn..... on the lawn, hanging from the fence, the trees, the secret service.... shoes everywhere
Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:04 AM
Quote:Would'nt it be a hoot now if people shared in his victory by throwing shoes onto the White House lawn.....
Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:07 AM
Quote: A hoot from your perspective; crude, rude and disrespectful to the Office of the President from mine.
Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: He fucking deserves it, Riverlove - he's disgraced that office so very badly that showing our ire in such a fashion is damn near negligable at this point. Besides which, once we've made our statement, the groundskeepers could collect them up and donate those still servicable to worthy causes. So we get our statement, AND do some good with it, where's the harm in that ?
Wednesday, December 17, 2008 7:58 AM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote: 2 wrongs do not make a right.
Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:07 AM
Quote:So, a few bad apples in the Army (that's protecting us by the way)...
Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: Now we're hearing talk about a conspiracy surrounding the shoe throwing. This journalist's records indicate he's always been a poor thrower, so how could he get off 2 clean shots at Bush in 1.725 seconds? There must have been a second thrower. Actually I believe it was triangulation of fire with three assailants. The first throw went awry and off-camera, but it was enough to get Bush to manoeuver himself into the "kill-zone" for the near-fatal headshot. One shoe thrower indeed! Pshaw! I don't buy that magic shoe theory. Someone call Oliver.....oooops too late, movie made, nobody went. Nevermind.
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