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Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:48 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Dutch Europeans protest against
United Islamic Republic of Britain's
ban of right-wing lawmaker

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/02/10/europe/EU-Netherlands-Britai
n-Lawmaker-Barred.php


The British government has banned Dutch right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders from visiting the country to show his anti-Islam film "Fitna" at the Houses of Parliament.

Wilders was invited by a member of British Parliament's upper house, the House of Lords, to show his 15-minute film, which criticizes the Quran as a "fascist book." But he was informed Tuesday in a letter from the British Embassy he would not be allowed into Britain.

The film sparked violent protests around the Muslim world last year for linking Quranic verses with footage of terrorist attacks.

Wilders has lived for years with round-the-clock security because of his fierce criticism of Islam. He has urged his government to ban the Quran in the same way it did Adolf Hitler's book "Mein Kampf" and warned of a "tsunami" of Islam swamping the Netherlands.

Last month, a court in Amsterdam ordered him prosecuted for hate speech, a rarely punished crime in the liberal Netherlands that carries a maximum one-year sentence. Wilders has appealed the order to the Supreme Court.

In a telephone interview Wilders called the British government's decision "cowardly" and vowed to defy it.

"Let them try to detain me," he told The Associated Press, adding that he had lunch in the British House of Lords in December.

Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen said the Dutch government would press Britain to reverse the ban and said he "deeply regretted" that a Dutch lawmaker had been barred access.

Britain's Home Office, which is responsible for immigration issues, said it had no specific comment to make about Wilders' case.


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Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:56 AM

CITIZEN


Yeah, it's pretty fucking stupid, the guy's a dick, but you can't close your borders from dicks. We'd never let the PM back in.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:03 PM

FREMDFIRMA


Free speech is free speech, it's either universal or it's just another tool of oppression.

That said, the guy's a moron, sure.

That hasn't kept anyone ELSE, including those who work there, outta that building yet...

-F

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Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:33 AM

PIRATECAT


When you lose the right to free speech you know longer have a democracy. I heard about it listening to city talk fm 105.9 out of liverpool. But its ok for the muslims to protest death to Bush or the Queen. This is the problem with the liberals in England. Hate speech is ok when they do it. Now muslims since I can remember whether they where Sha or Khomeini types they sink of cologne, coked up, talking always about screwing the white blond like a dog, and lazy man are they lazy. Poverty appears where ever those minerets pop up. My grandfather died in 75 told me never turn you back on a muslim or they'll put a knife in it. He was right. The neo nazis are lefty luvin muslims.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:44 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Amsterdam: Where relatives of world renown artist can be murdered on the streets in broad day light by Islamo-zealots, but you STILL can't make a film about the evils of Islam.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:55 AM

KIRKULES


I really don't see a problem with this. An independent country shouldn't have to justify what foreigner they do or don't allow into their country. If this was done by the British to one of their own citizens, I would see a problem, but if you think you can spout any kind of hate speech you like and then travel the world freely doing it, you've got another think coming.

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Sunday, February 15, 2009 4:35 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kirkules:
I really don't see a problem with this. An independent country shouldn't have to justify what foreigner they do or don't allow into their country. If this was done by the British to one of their own citizens, I would see a problem, but if you think you can spout any kind of hate speech you like and then travel the world freely doing it, you've got another think coming.



Would it be considered " hate speech " to diss Hitler's Germany before they started invading their neighbors ?

Fine if they invade France, but when they start dropping bombs on London..... then that's REALLY crossing the line ?





It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, February 15, 2009 7:10 AM

PARTICIPANT


the British are really screwed
It will start off in cities like Londonstan
but in less than 20 years Britain will be a failed state like the Lebanon

This time the British will first flee to Scotland and Wales
the white english patriots, black christian english, aethist british indians and english chinese will all move out as muslims claim lower england as their own
In 2013 the world biggest Mosque will be in London, one muslim cleric recently boasted that Muslims will one day conquer Britain — by having more babies.

The British will flee their own turf for their survival
Not unlike the poverty and imperialism they inflicted on the Irish as millions of people from Ireland came to America to escape a horrible famine

Their economic system is worse than ous, you think 700 Billion is bad for Fannie Mae etc. Over there its worse, they don't produce anything in England anymore and the pound is under serious pressure as the British banks face collapse. This time it will be Brits in their thousands like refugees begging America or Australia or Spain or China or whoever to take them British in


I'm not saying the British deserve all this misery coming to them
I'm just saying its kinda ironic they haven't learned from their own history

Birmingham: Domino's Pizza outlet goes halal
http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2009/02/birmingham-dominos-pizza-out
let-goes.html


Shouting Fire in the Lords
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3798

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Sunday, February 15, 2009 7:29 AM

KIRKULES


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kirkules:
I really don't see a problem with this. An independent country shouldn't have to justify what foreigner they do or don't allow into their country. If this was done by the British to one of their own citizens, I would see a problem, but if you think you can spout any kind of hate speech you like and then travel the world freely doing it, you've got another think coming.



Would it be considered " hate speech " to diss Hitler's Germany before they started invading their neighbors ?

Fine if they invade France, but when they start dropping bombs on London..... then that's REALLY crossing the line ?





"Hate Speech" was a poor choice of word on my part, but you can't expect to say negative (though true) things about Muslims and then travel to a Muslim country like Britain. I doubt Hitler would have allowed those writing anti-Nazi stuff to travel to Germany.

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Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:01 AM

PARTICIPANT


When does the flood of immigration
become the floods of foreign invasions?

invading, conquering the Brits by stealth


Boris Johnson defends his connections to Islam

insists to the British Islam should be in schools since it was a "religion of peace".


Boris and the theology don
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/davehillblog/2008/dec/02/boris
Professor of Religion, Politics and Ethics at the University of Nottingham, who has posted a vigorous critique at Johnson's website. I quote:
Ironically, as a Labour voter, I found this programme to be far too liberal and multiculturalist. Just not Tory enough!! It also reeks somewhat of Oxford classicist anti-Christianity, which to my mind is completely antithetical to Toryism. After a good start and despite a fine presentational style and rebutting of certain myths, it perpetuated certain others about Islamic civilisation that the best recent continental research...has destroyed.

Islamification of Brits
RESULTS

Burka-ed Woman To Give UK X-Mas Message

Muslim ‘Lord’ threatens Parliament,

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran, who once denied that gays exist in his country, and does not believe that the Holocaust ever took place, delivered Channel 4’s alternative Christmas message

BBC criticised for refusing to call Bombay gunmen terrorists ...

Archbishop of Canterbury argues for Islamic law in Britain

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Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:38 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


The Dutch MP and the retreat of British liberalism
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/dc3cf60e-fc4c-11dd-aed8-000077b07658.html

Balla Da Li!


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Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:59 AM

PARTICIPANT


Dutch MP to be charged



Shame on The Netherlands

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Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:49 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by participant:
Dutch MP to be charged



Shame on The Netherlands



Did the murder of Theo Van Gogh teach them nothing?



The defendant rejects our democracy. He even wants to bring down our democracy. With violence. He is insistent. To this day. He sticks to his views with perseverance.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

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Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:05 AM

CHRISISALL


AU, you really need to watch this.





"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:10 AM

JONGSSTRAW

We carry in our hearts the true country, and that cannot be stolen.


Face it, Europe is scared shitless of Muslims. That's the only reason they pander to them constantly. Talk about a double standard; they ban the filmmaker and his film, yet allow Muslims on the street to walk around with signs advocating death to the West, a new Holocaust for the West, and other sickening, demented threats of death and mayhem. But somehow England is OK with that.

On the other hand, this film really is pretty stupid. 15 minutes of all the Muslim horrors you can imagine, but you could edit the same 15 minutes for ANY religion and make it look bad. And do people really need a film to see the dangers of the Jihadist Muslim threat? London Subway bombings, Madrid train bombings, French riots and property destroyed; what else do they need to know. The film is just stupid.

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Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:12 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
AU, you really need to watch this.





"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall



We need more his type in the world. Good stuff.

*amendment* Much of what this guy holds to is spot on accurate, while some others, meh.... not so much. But what's important is he's vocal about defending TRUE Islam, which is the religion of peace, while too often we the ugly underside of those who call themselves Muslims.

Like when an Ayatola puts a death warrant on a author of a book
Or when a group calling themselves Muslims takes over a school and murders almost 300 kids
Or when a those claiming to be Muslim strap bombs on their bodies and blow up an innocent crowd of shoppers
Or when those calling themselves Muslim kidnap a journalist, a engineer or a geologist, and cut their heads off, ON VIDEO, with a Islamic flag in the background...... and so it goes.

Selah



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

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Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:13 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by JaynezTown:
The Dutch MP and the retreat of British liberalism
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/dc3cf60e-fc4c-11dd-aed8-000077b07658.html

Free speech ain't free.
Quote:


Balla Da Li!



Is it just me, or was that pretty funny?

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:14 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

We need more his type in the world. Good stuff.




"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:10 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


A Giant Mosque for Marseilles

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3803

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:

Balla Da Li!

Is it just me, or was that pretty funny?




the real nut jobs




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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:37 AM

PARTICIPANT


Tuesday, February 24, 2009
UK: Muslims first, British second
http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2009/02/uk-muslims-first-british-sec
ond.html

UK: Muslims first, British second

A BBC show on Muslim extremism.

To sum up in a few sentences: Muslim extremism is a problem in Britain. The government thinks inciting hatred is as bad as inciting violence and is developing a new policy to deal with it (See UK: Gov't to to widen extremism definition). Muslims fear being stigmatized, and are suspicious of government actions
http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2009/02/uk-muslims-first-british-sec
ond.html

h/t Hodja

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:46 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


What Churchill thinks of the Muslim Cult


Quote:


How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force

Winston Churchill




Glenn Beck interviews Geert Wilders on Islam and the Koran


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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:55 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Mega-mosque in Londonstan

Stratford, east London

If given the go-ahead, the London Markaz would hold more than 40,000 worshippers.

THE BIGGEST MOSQUE ON EARTH

The mosque would be built on a 70,000 square-metre site at Abbey Mills on the banks of the Channelsea River near Olympic Park.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:48 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


J-town,

Don't you know that 9-11 was the ONLY example of murderous Islamo-fascism , ever???



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:17 PM

PARTICIPANT


'Islamofascists' I'm not sure if that term is politically correct



Quote:


Offending The Islamofascists
http://www.canyon-news.com/artman2/publish/John_Armor_1158/Offending_t
he_Islamofascists.php

Posted by John Armor on Feb 22, 2009 - 5:53:44 AM

It was just a minor story on Friday about a Dutch politician being denied entry to Britain at a London airport. You might well have missed it. But it was an
extremely important event for its broader meaning.





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Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:00 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Britannia: Subsidizing Islamic Terrorists
http://sheikyermami.com/2009/02/25/britannia-subsidizing-islamic-terro
rists
/

Atlas Shrugs: LORD NAZI AHMED JAILED!
http://sheikyermami.com/2009/02/25/atlas-shrugs-lord-nazi-ahmed-jailed/
Quote:

12 weeks for killing for a man. Sheriff Matt Dillon is spinning in his grave.

The Muslim peer who was responsible for Geert Wilders’ banning in Britain has been jailed. He “struck and killed a young man with his Jaguar” while text messaging. The victim’s parents were understandably unhappy with the sentence. They lost their son, this manslaughter inciter of Islamic violence gets 12 weeks.

Lord Ahmed threatened “to bring a force of 10,000 Muslims to lay siege to the House of Lords” if it went ahead with an event at which the Dutch parliamentarian Geert Wilders would have introduced a screening of his controversial film Fitna.

* There are currently calls for ex-jailbirds to be barred from the House of Lords, but don’t hold your breath. ‘Lord’ Ahmed is not a hereditary lord, he was made a lord by ex-prime minister, the unlamented Tony ‘Bliar’ Blair, a few years back.

Meanwhile, in Pakistan: Christians Concerned by Latest Muslim Rape, Killing Spree

How ironic that the British government should call the urbane and utterly fine and decent Geert Wilders a“threat to society”, when this man is the real threat to society.

I wonder — will there be tens of thousands rioting in the streets for Lord Nazi?
Lord Ahmed jailed The Star

SOUTH Yorkshire peer Lord Ahmed was today jailed for 12 weeks for texting while driving on a motorway just before he was involved in a crash in which a man died.
Lord Ahmed, aged 51, looked stunned but showed not other emotion as he was sent down by the Judge Mr Justice Wilkie at Sheffield Crown Court this morning.

The Judge told him: “In my judgement only custody can be justified.”

Previously at Atlas:

**NEW VIDEO** DEBATE FOR THE SAKE, THE SURVIVAL OF A NATION: THE HOUSE OF LORDS

GEERT WILDERS ARRESTED! REFUSED ENTRY

“Threat to society? I’m an elected member of Parliament; I have done nothing wrong,” “I’m a normal, law-abiding democrat. You might agree or disagree with my political point of view, but I’m no threat to anyone.”

BREAKING: WILDERS DENIED ENTRANCE TO UK!

WILDERS: “LET THEM ARREST ME AT HEATHROW”


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Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:23 AM

PARTICIPANT


Eboo Patel newsweek/washingtonpost

Quote:

Geert Wilders on Capitol Hill

There is a foreign element threatening America. He believes the Qur'an promotes violence. He creates videos of Muslims committing terrorist acts and hopes mainstream media plays them. He is committed to the clash of civilizations -- Islam vs. the West. Britain, our primary ally, denied him entry, claiming he was a threat to public order. Now he wants to come here.

This foreign element does not speak Arabic. He does not pray five times a day. He does not have a beard. He is not even a Muslim. He is Geert Wilders, a Member of Parliament from a right-wing party in the Netherlands. Why he's so interested in amplifying Osama bin Laden's message that Islam promotes violence and division I don't know.

And why he's being invited to screen his offensive film Fitna in the ornate LBJ room in the U.S. Capitol confuses me too. My friend Keith Ellison, an African-American Congressman from Minnesota and a Muslim, compared it to screening the horribly racist film The Birth of the Nation in the White House.

A lot of people are mad about this. But I don't think this is the time to get mad. I think this is the time to think strategy, and to remember core American values.

First, strategy.

1) If this becomes a conversation about free speech, go ahead and hand Geert Wilders the trophy because he wins. The truth is lots of things qualify under free speech. Dirty jokes. Ugly lies. Stupid rumors. Probably Fitna does too. Let's not get into that cat fight. The issue isn't whether it's legal to screen Fitna in the LBJ room, but whether it's American to do so. Shouldn't the best of America be on display in the Senate? Shouldn't Capitol Hill be amplifying our tradition of pluralism rather than returning to the dark days of racism?

2) If our best idea is to protest Wilders we give him the images he wants -- the heroic free speech crusader surrounded by a group of angry looking (preferably bearded) people shouting him down.

3) We shouldn't try to get Fitna banned. And we shouldn't try to get Wilders deported. We should simply point out that Wilders highlights a choice for America: Should we engage one-fifth of the world's population by punching them in the mouth or by reaching our hand out in friendship? Which approach represents the American way?

As God and America would have it, the American Way happens to be on display the same day that Wilders is screening his film. It's a made-for-TV contrast.

Thursday afternoon, Senator John Kerry will be hosting a hearing on how the US. can best engage Muslim communities around the world. Kerry is concerned about the dismal image of the U.S. among a large swath of humanity, and is convinced that we can improve this by better communicating American values.

Former Secretary of State Madeline Albright will be testifying, as will Dalia Mogahed of the Gallup Center for Muslim Studies, and me. My guess is that all of us will say the first step to improving America's image and foreign relations is simply showing respect towards our fellow human beings, including Muslims. Quite universal, really. Africans want respect. Europeans want respect. Americans want respect. Muslims want respect. Pretty basic.

President Obama understands the American virtue of showing respect to others. In his Inaugural Address he told the Muslim world "we seek a new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect." His first interview was with Al Arabiya, where he stated "My job is to communicate the fact that the United States has a stake in the well-being of the Muslim world, that the language we use has to be a language of respect."

I'm confident that most Americans, seeing the stark choice between Kerry's hearing and Wilders' film, will choose the best of our nation instead of the worst of someone else's country.

Come to think of it, I'm glad Geert Wilders is on Capitol Hill. I hope he drops by our session. Maybe he'll learn something about American values too.

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http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/eboo_patel/2009/02/geert_wi
lders_on_capitol_hill/all_comments.html


BTW Eboo Patel is an Indian-American MUSLIM
Unfortunatley many of these guys from newsweek/washingtonpost have an agenda, even the so-called non biased journalists

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Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:54 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


The founder of an American Muslim television channel, launched to counter the negative stereotypes of Muslims after 9/11, has been arrested in New York for beheading his wife.

Quote:

We all have this Muslim thing wrong. Islam is the religion of peace and we're all just a bunch of racist, religious bigots. Bridges TV was created by Muzzammil Hassan to counter the negative stereotypes.
http://www.black-and-right.com/2009/02/16/bridges-tv-founder-fights-mu
slim-stereotypes-by-beheading-wife
/



http://www.sindhtoday.net/world/67092.htm

The Hassans were well-known to local police, both in Orchard Park and Texas, where Muzzammil has family.

Police were called to their Orchard Park home more than a dozen times for domestic issues dating back two years.

And in 2006, Aasiya told police that the abuse had been going on “for about the last six years.”

The abuse, according to police reports, ranged from restrictive control to outbursts of violence, including a black eye and fat lip.

At various times, Aasiya accused her husband of physically preventing her from calling the police, abandoning her vehicle in Clarence so she couldn’t flee and pouring water on her to keep her from sleeping.

Police believe they have enough evidence. They say that, with his money, family and entrepreneurial legacy at risk, Muzzammil destroyed both their lives—and betrayed legions of local and national supporters who believed in a station that could heal cultural divisions in post-9/11 America.

A nationwide debate has begun among Muslim leaders and women’s advocates about what role religion and culture may have played in this awful killing.

That debate continues. (ANI)

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Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:10 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


U.N Protecting Sharia (and Islam)?

United Nations Wants To Regulate Free Speech Of Every Nation



The United Nations tries to outlaw criticism of Islam

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Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:44 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


JaynezTown - u r a racist.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

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Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:13 PM

PARTICIPANT

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Friday, February 27, 2009 5:14 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


British Government faces pressures from the Israeli lobby to force British Interior Minister Jackie Smith to prevent Hezbollah spokesman Ibrahim al-Moussawi from entering Britain, Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Rai reported on Friday.

They will allow people who bomb Jews and bomb Christians into the country but heaven forbid somebody in London says Islam is Violent

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Friday, February 27, 2009 7:11 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Latest Poll: New gains for the Progress Party

http://www.norwaypost.no/content/view/21696/1/

The poll was made for the newspaper Vaart Land, shortly after FrP-leader Siv Jensen made her controversial speech in which she said that "Norway is undergoing a subtle islamification", and after Justice Minister Knut Storberget announced his turnaound on the police hijab-issue.

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Friday, May 22, 2009 2:06 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Friday, May 22, 2009 4:57 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by JaynezTown:

Metropolitan Police commander Ali Dizaei charged over restaurant scuffle

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/536236
5/Metropolitan-Police-commander-Ali-Dizaei-charged-over-restaurant-scuffle.html



UK and USA want war with Iran, so that includes war with Iranians in UK and USA.

Hussein Obama is now blaming Iran for 9.11, according to lawyers in that trillion-dollar class action, taking orders from Israel in Israel. The Saudis and Bin Ladens were dropped from that lawsuit, under orders by the US Supreme Court.

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Monday, August 10, 2009 12:13 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Doctor friend of Glasgow airport bombers can stay in UK
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/4048

Book review of 'Londonistan' by Melanie Phillips -- Conclusion
http://europenews.dk/en/node/25233

'20% of EU will be Muslims by 2050'
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1249418558006&pagename=JPos
t%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

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Monday, August 10, 2009 1:57 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:


Doctor friend of Glasgow airport bombers can stay in UK




The way you framed this, you really make it sound as if your friends and neighbors should be forced to pay for your bad actions. Is that what you meant to imply? I'm fairly certain that some of Tim McVeigh's friends in the Marine Corp. are still living in this country. Should we be worried about them?

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Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:28 AM

JAYNEZTOWN




Swimmers are told to wear burkinis
British swimming pools are imposing Muslim dress codes in a move described as divisive by Labour MPs.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/6034706/Swimmers-a
re-told-to-wear-burkinis.html



Under the rules, swimmers – including non-Muslims – are barred from entering the pool in normal swimming attire.

Instead they are told that they must comply with the "modest" code of dress required by Islamic custom, with women covered from the neck to the ankles and men, who swim separately, covered from the navel to the knees.

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Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:52 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


It's conspicuous what you left out of your claims. That's not some "law" that is being instituted or imposed on the entire nation, or even a majority of it. That is guidelines that are being set up BY MUSLIM SWIMMING GROUPS FOR MUSLIM SWIMMING CLASSES AND GROUPS.

But way to sensationalize and hyperbolize. PN would be proud.

This is little different than if I were to provide a link to the stories about people taking guns to town hall appearances, and claim that Obama is making it a law to require all Americans to carry guns at all times. I can point to instances of it happening, and those instances being legal, but that's where the connections end.

Mike


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Monday, July 8, 2013 12:04 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer to Appeal Banning from UK

http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20130702-904062.html

Quote:

NEW YORK, July 2, 2013 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Human rights activists Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer of the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI) are challenging the decision to ban them from the United Kingdom, and have instructed lawyers in that country.

Geller and Spencer are challenging British Home Secretary Theresa May's decision to prevent them from entering the country in order to lay a wreath at a memorial for British soldier Lee Rigby on Armed Forces Day, June 29. Rigby was murdered by Islamic jihadists on a street in Woolwich on May 22.

Geller, AFDI's Executive Director, said in a statement: "I have been banned in Britain. My crime? My principled dedication to freedom. I am a human rights activist dedicated to freedom of speech, freedom of conscience and individual rights for all before the law. I fiercely oppose violence and the persecution and oppression of minorities under supremacist law. I deplore violence and work for the preservation of freedom of speech to avoid violent conflict."

AFDI's Associate Director, Spencer, noted that the United Kingdom recently admitted the Saudi Muslim cleric Mohammed al-Arifi, who has said: "Devotion to Jihad for the sake of Allah, and the desire to shed blood, to smash skulls and to sever limbs for the sake of Allah and in defense of His religion, is, undoubtedly, an honor for the believer." Spencer added: "Such open calls for jihad violence are apparently acceptable in Britain as long as one is in favor of such violence; only those who oppose it are excluded."

A petition asking British authorities to remove the ban and allow Geller and Spencer into the country has gained over 8,000 signatures in just a few days; it can be found at www.britishban.com. Geller and Spencer have also established a website for updates on the case and donations to this cause of free speech: www.britishlegalfund.com.

AFDI stands for:

-- The freedom of speech -- as opposed to Islamic prohibitions of
"blasphemy" and "slander," which are used effectively to quash honest
discussion of jihad and Islamic supremacism;

-- The freedom of conscience -- as opposed to the Islamic death penalty for
apostasy;

-- The equality of rights of all people before the law -- as opposed to
Sharia's institutionalized discrimination against women and non-Muslims.

Join the AFDI Facebook page here.

For more information, contact Pamela Geller at writeatlas@aol.com.

SOURCE American Freedom Defense Initiative

/Web site: http://www.britishban.com


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Friday, July 12, 2013 3:22 AM

JAYNEZTOWN



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Friday, July 12, 2013 6:40 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


On the flip side, Britain deported Abu Qatada, a radical Muslim cleric, to Jordan.

http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2013/07/07/3100464/jordan-radical-cleric-
abu-qatada.html

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Friday, July 12, 2013 6:58 AM

M52NICKERSON

DALEK!


This thread should be renamed "Fear and Loathing"

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:45 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!




Bill 'Clinton' Blythe Rockefeller bombed his country into the stone age, then sent USAma Bin Laden and Al Qaeda in to mop up.


Monsters and Men: Pirate News wins shoutout from Saturday Night Live
http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2013/05/hollywood-award-winner-pirat
e-news.html





In Firefly the Alliance merged the US flag with the flag of Communist China

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Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:54 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Music in Islam? Some Muslims believe that only vocal music is permissible (halal) and that instruments are forbidden (haram). Music can be distracting or sinful so in Islam is Haram, as well as Dancing to the Music (which is forbidden anyways).


The British News service, Sky News, has uncovered the fact that "increasing numbers of British inmates are being bullied into converting to Islam while in jail." An interview with a young woman whose brother was in a high security prison serving a 10 year sentence revealed that he had been threatened with a knife, beaten and generally intimidated. Her story is confirmed by the Prison Officers Association, "Official sources" and Joe Chapman, a former prison officer who now acts as a prison law consultant.
http://www.cobourgatheistnews.com/news/news-from-europe/54-muslims-in-
jail


Trouble in Africa and Europe
Norway lost track of mall suspect
http://www.smh.com.au/world/norway-lost-track-of-mall-suspect-20131019
-2vtjw.html

Norwegian police are facing questions over how they lost track of a Somalia-born immigrant identified as one of the Nairobi shopping mall suspects after it was claimed he had been under surveillance several years ago.

Hassan Abdi Dhuhulow, a 23-year-old former high school student in Larvik, south of Oslo, was identified by friends as one of the suspected gunmen caught in new CCTV footage of last month's atrocity.



Problems in the Far East?
Thailand bloody war between extremist Muslims and Thais, Philippines more tourble.
A Philippine sultan whose armed followers invaded a vast Malaysian region, sparking a security crisis that left dozens of people dead earlier this year, died Sunday of multiple organ failure. He was 75.

Sultan Jamalul Kiram III's wife, Fatima Celia, told The Associated Press that her husband died in her arms at a Philippine hospital. She said that before he died, he ordered his family and followers to keep alive the historic territorial claims to Sabah state in neighbouring Malaysia.

Although largely forgotten and dismissed as a vestige from a bygone era, Kiram's Muslim sultanate, based in the southern Philippine province of Sulu, stirred up a security crisis in Malaysia when his younger brother and about 200 followers, dozens of them armed, barged into Sabah's coastal village of Lahad Datu in February.

Stunned, Malaysia responded by sending in ground troops and launching air strikes. Dozens of people were killed in weeks of sporadic fighting before the standoff eased.
http://www.theprovince.com/news/world/Philippine+sultan+claimed+vast+M
alaysian+region+dies/9058341/story.html

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Saturday, November 14, 2015 2:53 PM

JAYNEZTOWN




Just as the Syria refugee crisis looms, Obama opens centers to speed vetting with screening outposts to be set up in Iraq, Lebanon, the Paris attack happens.

Geert Wilders on Twitter

geertwilderspvv: Paris under attack. This is war. Nothing less.

Gateway Pundit: Geraldo Rivera’s daughter was at the stadium where one of the attacks occurred, but was reportedly unharmed.



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Monday, May 9, 2016 10:21 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Reaction to London Electing Muslim Mayor Sadiq Khan - London Has Truly Fallen #LondonHasFallen

London has elected a new mayor, a Britain-born Pakistani Muslim lawyer, Sadiq Khan. Mr. Khan has ties to extremists and has labeled non-extremists as "uncle toms" ... which is a slur that originated in the United States to refer to blacks that were "traitors to their own race." A prime example of an "uncle tom" in the United States would be someone who does not support the hate group "Black Lives Matter." The election of Sadiq Khan has come at a time earlier than many thought it would happen, but many people knew that it would eventually happen. It is part of the furthering Islamisation of the West, specifically Britain.

Many cities in England now feature a majority minority population of children, some feature majority minority population of adults as well. Many other cities are majority Muslim, adult and child. This fact wouldn't be a problem if there was any integration going on, which there is not. There is a constant push to get more and more "rights" for Muslim citizens. They establish their own neighborhoods, create "no-go zones" ... places where non Muslims are not welcomed, and they also abide by their own set of rules and laws. Non-believers, or "kafir" as they are referred to by many Muslims, are not seen as equals. This type of behavior goes against everything Western Culture purports itself to be. Inclusion, not established based upon religion, multiculturalism.

Unfortunately for liberals who claim to champion Western Culture with their love of multiculturalism, they are killing that which they claim to champion. Left leaning politicians in Europe are afraid of doing what's necessary to curtail the anti-Western behavior in their own countries, because their pathological altruism is in conflict. It creates a barrier between reality and what they want to believe. They give Muslims concessions and allow them to stay segregated, so then the segregation, and resulting frustration due to not being part of mainstream society, and their own religious hatred just festers and boils over to the point where attacks begin to happen. Not just bombings or things like that, but also physical attacks on people. Sexual assaults, knifings, you name it. Anyone that is against that type of behavior is labeled as a racist. Which is crazy. Hopefully The Kingdom of Great Britain wakes up... before it becomes The Islamic Caliphate of Brtainistan... forever.


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Free speech is free speech, it's either universal or it's just another tool of oppression.




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Saturday, August 19, 2017 11:04 AM

JAYNEZTOWN



Sarah Champion quits Labour front bench over rape article

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40952224

The Rotherham MP wrote in the Sun that "Britain has a problem with British Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls."
She has now apologised for her "extremely poor choice of words" and quit as shadow equalities minister.
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said he had accepted her resignation.
Ms Champion's article was written after 17 men were convicted of forcing girls in Newcastle to have sex.
Mostly British-born, they were from Iraqi, Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Indian, Iranian and Turkish communities.
'Dangerous precedent'
In interviews following the convictions, the Labour MP said such crimes involved "predominately Pakistani men" and said a fear of being called racist was hampering the authorities' investigations.
She then penned the Sun article, which also included the line: "These people are predators and the common denominator is their ethnic heritage."

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Saturday, August 19, 2017 1:04 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
"These people are predators and the common denominator is their ethnic heritage."



Which is a shame, because if criminals of any color were just treated as the criminal scum they are and DEALT WITH, then people wouldn't feel the need to write articles or say things that could paint other innocent people of the same heritage as also people to watch out for.

It's time to start going after the criminals instead of the people who are calling a spade a spade.

Protecting these people because of their ethnic and/or religious background is EXACTLY what got the Catholic church in trouble, isn't it?

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Tuesday, August 22, 2017 5:58 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


While Vans and Trucks mow down people, Female Genital Mutilation carried out? Arab and Pakistani gangs drugging and raping Native girls in England, bombs going off, jihadi islamist attacks and networks in action

and the Police spent tax payer money on some kid posting on facebook and being anti-islam


Disgusting cowardly islamo-apologist thought police Lancashire, England. 'Would you like to sit down with an Islamic scholar...Londonistan Thought Police?'
https://soundcloud.com/christian-finch-269783044/counter-terrorism-int
erview


...You're then going into the world of beyond help...the criminal world...your sharing a lot of posts...facebook bla bla

young man called in for a "voluntary" police interview regarding anti-Islam online posts


'Would you classify yourself as a nationalist'

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