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Talking left while moving right

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:33
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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:22 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


That recipe, which worked well for Clinton in good economic times, is Obama's recipe disaster. By talking left while moving right, Obama has managed to dissatisfy BOTH ends of the political spectrum, when people of all political persuasions feel that a crisis is not being addressed. So apropos of that, here is an Obama joke from one of my right-leaning friends... a joke I think MOST of us can get behind!
Quote:

A man died and met St. Peter at the Pearly Gates. Behind St.Peter was a giant wall of clocks. The man asked, "What are those clocks?"

St. Peter answered, "Those are Lie Clocks. Everyone on earth has a Lie Clock. Every time you tell a lie, the hands on your clock will move."

"Oh," said the man, "that clock looks broken. Whose clock is that?"

"That's Mother Teresa's. The hands have never moved, indicating that she has never told a lie."

"Incredible," said the man, "and whose clock is that?"

St. Peter responded, "That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that Abe told only two lies in his life."

The man was really impressed. As he looked at the clocks he became curious about other presidents. "Where's President Obama's clock?" asked the man.

"Oh, Obama's clock is in Jesus' office. He's using it as a ceiling fan."









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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:25 AM

CHRISISALL





The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:26 AM

CHRISISALL




So funny I hadda post it twice...

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:32 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


That's great! Dumbya's clock must be running the air conditioner...

And thanx for the emoticon--I was running out of laughing ones!



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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:38 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by Niki2:
That's great! Dumbya's clock must be running the air conditioner...


Rappy's must need a constantly flowing application of WD-40...*snicker*


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:49 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...




Oops, I forgot; we're ignoring him.

(good one anyway)



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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:51 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
That's great! Dumbya's clock must be running the air conditioner...


Rappy's must need a constantly flowing application of WD-40...*snicker*




Who? Who is this "Rappy" person to whom you refer?

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:52 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Signy: If we were even on keyboards before, you now owe me one. :)

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:31 AM

JONGSSTRAW


I'm not expecting Obama to go anywhere. I think he understands his "political" situation quite well, and I believe he will fight back harder than ever. He will go directly after Repubs with a new fervor. He really has no choice, other than to simply capitulate, which he won't. That's what my friends on the Right don't get...they just don't get it. They think Republicans have won, or are winning. Winning what is my reply. They think Republicans will take back Congress in November. Conservative pundits are already tallying up the votes for their fantasy projections. I think not so fast. They think Obamas numbers will continue to sink. I think not so fast. Obama is as shrewd and savvy a politician as I've ever seen in my life. 8-9 months is an eternity in politics, and nothing ever stays stagnant. Cockyness is a huge mistake for the Right, just as disappointment and frustration is for the Left.

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:30 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Jongsstraw, the problem is that while Obama may be "taking on" the Repubs, he isn't "taking on" what REALLY needs to be taken on: big banks, big insurances, big pharma, big agribusiness, big ... oh, you get the idea.

Repubs are an easier target. But "taking on" your biggest contributors... well, it's like shooting yourself in the heart.

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:46 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


JS, I agree with what you said, but I think Sig makes an awfully good point about what's really happening, too.
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A trio of House Republican retirement announcements over the past 10 days have sparked a debate between the leaders of the two major parties over whether the GOP is losing momentum in its quest to score major gains at the ballot box this fall.

With the three latest lawmakers choosing not to seek reelection in November, Republicans will have to defend 18 open seats and Democrats 14. The raw numbers contradict the conventional wisdom that Democrats would head for the sidelines after GOP Sen. Scott Brown's special election victory Jan. 19 in Massachusetts.

GOP strategists are brushing aside the retirement gap, saying that many of their House members see an improving political environment and are jumping ship to run for statewide office, and that other retirements are occuring in mostly conservative terrain that will be easy to defend. Democrats counter that the GOP retirements are a sign that most rank-and-file Republicans do not believe they will recapture the majority anytime soon.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/11/AR2010
021104715.html


Even more comprehensive is the totals in both House and Senate:
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With Thursday's announcement that Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart (R-FL) will not seek re-election in his Miami-area district, the number of Republicans not running for re-election to the House now amounts to more than 10 percent of the House Republican caucus, compared to less than five percent for Democrats.

Chris Cillizza at the Washington Post notes that the total number of House Republicans set to retire or seek other office is now 18, or slightly more than 10 percent of the 178 seats the GOP holds in the House.

By comparison, Roll Call's list of departing lawmakers shows that only 12 House Democrats are retiring, or slightly less than five percent of the Democrats' 255 seats.

http://current.com/items/92124011_one-in-ten-house-republicans-calling
-it-quits.htm


At this point, 5 Democratic senators and 6 Republican senators are retiring...in both cases, what does it give the GOP to crow about?



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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:54 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Jongsstraw, the problem is that while Obama may be "taking on" the Repubs, he isn't "taking on" what REALLY needs to be taken on: big banks, big insurances, big pharma, big agribusiness, big ... oh, you get the idea.

Repubs are an easier target. But "taking on" your biggest contributors... well, it's like shooting yourself in the heart.


I get your ideas, but I do not think most of America does. Americans are most concerned about jobs, energy supply, and national security. Some of the Progressive's agenda seems anti-business to many folks. Those things won't fly now.

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Jongs, do you really think that people LIKE big banks and health insurances? Peeps DO understand that we're being bent over.

The problem is that we've been ideologically programmed... by the very same big companies... to think that government doesn't have an answer. That's after YEARS of purposeful mismanagement by the Repubs, and corporate-lite management by the Dems.

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:32 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Jongs, do you really think that people LIKE big banks and health insurances? Peeps DO understand that we're being bent over.

The problem is that we've been ideologically programmed... by the very same big companies... to think that government doesn't have an answer. That's after YEARS of purposeful mismanagement by the Repubs, and corporate-lite management by the Dems.


As a rule, no. But there has to be priorities of issues. Then there has to be cooperation, so that both sides can agree to get it done. One party rule didn't work out too well this past year, and if the Dems decide to go nuclear NOW to pass stuff, all heck will break loose at the polls. I think they can write some meaningful legislation to tackle needed reform in those areas you mentioned.....but it's quite difficult to do that considering the daily political posturing, or the Cheney-Biden fueding, or other petty distractions that seem to consume all of us at times.

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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:33 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"... I think he understands his "political" situation quite well ..."

Obama has a keen eye for who holds the power. It's what made him so successful in Chicago. Right now it's big money running the show, and has been for some time. IF people get together in large and unignorable numbers he will be forced by dint of public pressure to enact change. That's what I meant by saying he NEEDS to be pushed. Until then, he will be playing the game of the people who hold the power - the corporations.

BTW, while I think people have no love of big banks, big pharma, big insurance, big business - they (we) are demoralized and disunited. Obama can safely march forward with his agenda.

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