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20 ways Obamacare fraks you in the a$$

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:16 AM

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With ObamaCARE now passed, containing the Cornhusker Kickback, Gator-Aid, the Lousiana Purchase, and other shady deals, Investors Business Daily gives up 20 ways that ObamaCARE will take away our freedoms. IBD’s sections described below are taken from HR 3590 as agreed to by the Senate and from the reconciliation bill which takes out the Cornhusker Kickback and Gator-Aid as displayed by the Rules Committee.

1. You are young and don’t want health insurance? You are starting up a small business and need to minimize expenses, and one way to do that is to forego health insurance? Tough. You have to pay $750 annually for the “privilege.” (Section 1501)

2. You are young and healthy and want to pay for insurance that reflects that status? Tough. You’ll have to pay for premiums that cover not only you, but also the guy who smokes three packs a day, drink a gallon of whiskey and eats chicken fat off the floor. That’s because insurance companies will no longer be able to underwrite on the basis of a person’s health status. (Section 2701).

3. You would like to pay less in premiums by buying insurance with lifetime or annual limits on coverage? Tough. Health insurers will no longer be able to offer such policies, even if that is what customers prefer. (Section 2711).

4. Think you’d like a policy that is cheaper because it doesn’t cover preventive care or requires cost-sharing for such care? Tough. Health insurers will no longer be able to offer policies that do not cover preventive services or offer them with cost-sharing, even if that’s what the customer wants. (Section 2712).

5. You are an employer and you would like to offer coverage that doesn’t allow your employers’ slacker children to stay on the policy until age 26? Tough. (Section 2714).

6. You must buy a policy that covers ambulatory patient services, emergency services, hospitalization, maternity and newborn care, mental health and substance use disorder services, including behavioral health treatment; prescription drugs; rehabilitative and habilitative services and devices; laboratory services; preventive and wellness services; chronic disease management; and pediatric services, including oral and vision care. You’re a single guy without children? Tough, your policy must cover pediatric services. You’re a woman who can’t have children? Tough, your policy must cover maternity services. You’re a teetotaler? Tough, your policy must cover substance abuse treatment. (Add your own violation of personal freedom here.) (Section 1302).

7. Do you want a plan with lots of cost-sharing and low premiums? Well, the best you can do is a “Bronze plan,” which has benefits that provide benefits that are actuarially equivalent to 60% of the full actuarial value of the benefits provided under the plan. Anything lower than that, tough. (Section 1302 (d) (1) (A))

8. You are an employer in the small-group insurance market and you’d like to offer policies with deductibles higher than $2,000 for individuals and $4,000 for families? Tough. (Section 1302 (c) (2) (A).

9. If you are a large employer (defined as at least 101 employees) and you do not want to provide health insurance to your employee, then you will pay a $750 fine per employee (It could be $2,000 to $3,000 under the reconciliation changes). Think you know how to better spend that money? Tough. (Section 1513).

10. You are an employer who offers health flexible spending arrangements and your employees want to deduct more than $2,500 from their salaries for it? Sorry, can’t do that. (Section 9005 (i)).

11. If you are a physician and you don’t want the government looking over your shoulder? Tough. The Secretary of Health and Human Services is authorized to use your claims data to issue you reports that measure the resources you use, provide information on the quality of care you provide, and compare the resources you use to those used by other physicians. Of course, this will all be just for informational purposes. It’s not like the government will ever use it to intervene in your practice and patients’ care. Of course not. (Section 3003 (i))

12. If you are a physician and you want to own your own hospital, you must be an owner and have a “Medicare provider agreement” by Feb. 1, 2010. (Dec. 31, 2010 in the reconciliation changes.) If you didn’t have those by then, you are out of luck. (Section 6001 (i) (1) (A))

13. If you are a physician owner and you want to expand your hospital? Well, you can’t (Section 6001 (i) (1) (B). Unless, it is located in a county where, over the last five years, population growth has been 150% of what it has been in the state (Section 6601 (i) (3) ( E)). And then you cannot increase your capacity by more than 200% (Section 6001 (i) (3) (C)).

14. You are a health insurer and you want to raise premiums to meet costs? Well, if that increase is deemed “unreasonable” by the Secretary of Health and Human Services it will be subject to review and can be denied. (Section 1003)

15. The government will extract a fee of $2.3 billion annually from the pharmaceutical industry. If you are a pharmaceutical company what you will pay depends on the ratio of the number of brand-name drugs you sell to the total number of brand-name drugs sold in the U.S. So, if you sell 10% of the brand-name drugs in the U.S., what you pay will be 10% multiplied by $2.3 billion, or $230,000,000. (Under reconciliation, it starts at $2.55 billion, jumps to $3 billion in 2012, then to $3.5 billion in 2017 and $4.2 billion in 2018, before settling at $2.8 billion in 2019 (Section 1404)). Think you, as a pharmaceutical executive, know how to better use that money, say for research and development? Tough. (Section 9008 (b)).

16. The government will extract a fee of $2 billion annually from medical device makers. If you are a medical device maker what you will pay depends on your share of medical device sales in the U.S. So, if you sell 10% of the medical devices in the U.S., what you pay will be 10% multiplied by $2 billion, or $200,000,000. Think you, as a medical device maker, know how to better use that money, say for R&D? Tough. (Section 9009 (b)). The reconciliation package turns that into a 2.9% excise tax for medical device makers. Think you, as a medical device maker, know how to better use that money, say for research and development? Tough. (Section 1405).

17. The government will extract a fee of $6.7 billion annually from insurance companies. If you are an insurer, what you will pay depends on your share of net premiums plus 200% of your administrative costs. So, if your net premiums and administrative costs are equal to 10% of the total, you will pay 10% of $6.7 billion, or $670,000,000. In the reconciliation bill, the fee will start at $8 billion in 2014, $11.3 billion in 2015, $1.9 billion in 2017, and $14.3 billion in 2018 (Section 1406).Think you, as an insurance executive, know how to better spend that money? Tough.(Section 9010 (b) (1) (A and B).)

18. If an insurance company board or its stockholders think the CEO is worth more than $500,000 in deferred compensation? Tough.(Section 9014).

19. You will have to pay an additional 0.5% payroll tax on any dollar you make over $250,000 if you file a joint return and $200,000 if you file an individual return. What? You think you know how to spend the money you earned better than the government? Tough. (Section 9015). That amount will rise to a 3.8% tax if reconciliation passes. It will also apply to investment income, estates, and trusts. You think you know how to spend the money you earned better than the government? Like you need to ask. (Section 1402).

20. If you go for cosmetic surgery, you will pay an additional 5% tax on the cost of the procedure. Think you know how to spend that money you earned better than the government? Tough. (Section 9017).

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:16 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

"20 ways Obamacare fraks you in the a$$"

I thought you liked this sort of thing.

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:19 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

IBD? Weren't they the same group who claimed that Stephen Hawking would never have survived under the National Health system in the UK, never realizing that HE'S A BRITISH CITIZEN WHO HAS LIVED HIS ENTIRE LIFE UNDER THE NATIONAL HEALTH?

So WHY would I listen to them about anything? I mean, don't people go around saying that nobody should ever listen to Dan Rather ever again, based on one piece that was questionable?

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:20 AM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
"20 ways Obamacare fraks you in the a$$"

I thought you liked this sort of thing.

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He does, but only if Obamacare is wearing a strap-on.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:28 AM

MINCINGBEAST

dude, i like the rough stuff--i'm talking total, heartless colon ruin. i'd much rather get it in the ass from an insurance company.

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:16 AM

RIVERLOVE

You better be careful PN. One of Obama's new 16,500 Gestapo IRS Agents may show up at your door one day, or call you to ask you some questions. They may want to know why your enrollment form states that you won't let a Jew doctor touch you. You may have to pay extra for that special exemption coverage. Between questions and monitoring of your health insurance, and a new direct sharing of info between private health data and public tax records, now the IRS wil be all over your non-kosher ass like flies on a chocolate babka. Give 'em a big kiss from me! You hated Bush so much, so I hope you now enjoy the change Obama promised!

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:22 AM

MAL4PREZ

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
You hated Bush so much, so I hope you now enjoy the change Obama promised!

So, just like you hung around to talk about how wrong you were about Palin, will you be around to admit how wrong you are about Obama and his health care reform?

And... what happened? I thought you were becoming more informed, capable of posting actual information rather than endless spewage of hateful crap. Why the back slide? Is PN-itis spreading?

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:45 AM

KWICKO

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2. You are young and healthy and want to pay for insurance that reflects that status? Tough. You’ll have to pay for premiums that cover not only you, but also the guy who smokes three packs a day, drink a gallon of whiskey and eats chicken fat off the floor. That’s because insurance companies will no longer be able to underwrite on the basis of a person’s health status. (Section 2701).

Does this mean I also have to pay for the premiums of the douchebag who thinks it's cool to get drunk and ride his motorcycle up Deal's Gap?

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:46 AM

KWICKO

Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:

And... what happened? I thought you were becoming more informed...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!

Mal4, stop - you're killing me!

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:58 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

What a giggle of a site that comes from: "Stop the Leftist Propaganda Machine!" and advertising an offer for free weekly columns by Ann Coulter. Eeep!

That's all that needs saying--I tried looking up one or two of the "Section ____"; they didn't seem to relate. But in general:

1. The young who don't want health insurance often end up in the emergency room, thereby being paid for by all of us; if I'm not mistaken, there are credits and tax breaks to allow small businesses to buy health insurance for their employees. I also believe an awful lot of businesses as it is go under because of the cost of health insurance.

3. Lifetime and annual limits to coverage are one of the things that's bad about things as they are...people buy them to get cheaper insurance, then end up being broken by the bills for medical expenses that go beyond those limits.

5. "You are an employer and you would like to offer coverage that doesn’t allow your employers’ slacker children to stay on the policy until age 26?" -- uhhh, shouldn't that be "employee's slacker children?" And what bullshit!

7. "....benefits that provide benefits that are actuarially equivalent to 60% of the full actuarial value of the benefits provided under the plan." Doublespeak.

The whole thing is twisted, misleading and misinformation. I didn't bother with it much.

Rejected. But predictable. Sad.

"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:11 AM

MAL4PREZ

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
And... what happened? I thought you were becoming more informed...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!

Mal4, stop - you're killing me!

Well, but I meant it seriously. Really! I seem to recall a certain amount of humbling when Riverlove realized that Palin is, in fact, insane. There were a few posts that weren't gaga. I guess it was short-lived.

As for PN's nuttiness: yeah, I like #14. It's a bad thing, according to these IBD people, that insurance companies can't just raise their rates however they'd like, as in to keep those record profits coming. Hey, maybe PN's got a point: this bill is right up the a$$ for the insurance companies!

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:26 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

I didn't get that far. What a laugh! It wasn't worth it for me to read the whole thing, but hey, now I'm pissed; if my health insurance company wants to raise premiums by 40% or more, I want them to have the "freedom" to do just that!!! Damn...that one got "me" right in the a$$~!

"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:54 AM

MAL4PREZ

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
I didn't get that far. What a laugh! It wasn't worth it for me to read the whole thing, but hey, now I'm pissed; if my health insurance company wants to raise premiums by 40% or more, I want them to have the "freedom" to do just that!!! Damn...that one got "me" right in the a$$~!

BWAHHHHHHHH!!! Oh, it hurts so good LOL!

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:05 AM

KANEMAN

Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
You hated Bush so much, so I hope you now enjoy the change Obama promised!
So, just like you hung around to talk about how wrong you were about Palin, will you be around to admit how wrong you are about Obama and his health care reform?

And... what happened? I thought you were becoming more informed, capable of posting actual information rather than endless spewage of hateful crap. Why the back slide? Is PN-itis spreading?

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hmm-burble-blah, blah-blah-blah, take a left

Read all the posts around Riverlove's. You can't be serious. My guess is you aren't. Endless spewage? I think that was meant for Kwicko's posts or did you not notice that spewage. What a degenerate you are.....Well, its true........

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:36 AM

MAL4PREZ

KANEMAN is tagged as offensive. My IP is 24.147.117.35

Nuff said.

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Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:44 AM

RIVERLOVE

Quote:
Originally posted by kaneman:
Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:

And... what happened? I thought you were becoming more informed, capable of posting actual information rather than endless spewage of hateful crap. Why the back slide? Is PN-itis spreading?

Read all the posts around Riverlove's. You can't be serious. My guess is you aren't. Endless spewage? I think that was meant for Kwicko's posts or did you not notice that spewage. What a degenerate you are.....Well, its true......

I made 1 post here, and it was clearly for PN (even used his name); but that argumentative twit chose to post a snarky response to me. Go figure. Where have you been Kaneman, good to see you back here.

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