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John Dingle (D- MI ) flat out admits.... ' It takes a long time.... to CONTROL THE PEOPLE'

POSTED BY: AURAPTOR
UPDATED: Thursday, March 25, 2010 14:14
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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:53 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!





All that whining and gnashing of teeth over the Patriot Act, and yet when REAL Gov't control over your very life comes to fruition, many of you cheer ?




Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor


Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."


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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:09 PM

MINCINGBEAST


of course i'm cheering. like everyone, i only oppose government control, or spending, if it is done by people i disagree with. and also, i hate freedom, love bureaucracy, and wish the united states was more like europe, only sissier and with more entitlements.

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:10 PM

CHRISISALL


That's what government's for.
I thought you SAW Firefly, AU...?


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:11 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
That's what government's for.
I thought you SAW Firefly, AU...?


The laughing Chrisisall
2010



See it ? Hell, I AM Malcolm Reynolds!

( minus the hot, gun toting babe who kicks serious ass and a really cool space ship..... )


Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor


Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:16 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
i only oppose government control, or spending, if it is done by people i disagree with.

You have every right to be a fool, but I'd humbly suggest you oppose what's wrong no matter if it's YOUR party or not.
But, being someone who is an independent, I might not see how much sway that sort of thing has on "team players."


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:19 PM

MINCINGBEAST


if its my party, it can't be wrong, right? not, "My country, right or wrong", but rather, "DNC! DNC! And wrong and right are arbitrary, oppressive concepts imposed on us by our capitalist, fascist oppressors!"

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:20 PM

BYTEMITE


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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:26 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
arbitrary, oppressive concepts imposed on us by our capitalist, fascist oppressors!

NOW you're getting it! Repos & Dims are both tools of the system!


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:29 PM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
wish the united states was more like europe


You can wish, but you've got a long way to go before your society improves that much.

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:30 PM

MINCINGBEAST


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
arbitrary, oppressive concepts imposed on us by our capitalist, fascist oppressors!

NOW you're getting it! Repos & Dims are both tools of the system!


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010



they are the left wing, and the right wing,of the same terrible promethean vulture that pecks the liver of the working man!

most people don't object to something because it is inherently, universally wrong, but rather because the other guy is doing it. government spending? godawful so long as the other party is doing it, fine if its my guy doing the spending. government control? absolutely awesome if it controls something i think ought to be controlled (THERE ARE WOMEN OUT THEIR KILLING THEIR UNBORN BABIES OMG!), absolutely lame if it controls something I don't want controlled (insurance companies have rights!).

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:32 PM

MINCINGBEAST


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
wish the united states was more like europe


You can wish, but you've got a long way to go before your society improves that much.

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was it Ezra Pound who called Europe an "old bitch gone in the teeth" and a "botched civilization"? ;) Pro: he was a poet, and poets are all sensitive souls. Con: He was a fascist. Literally.

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:20 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


It probably takes a lot less time to control those people if you torture them all first. ;)




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:







Too bad they didn't have the "common sense" to go look up how to correctly spell Dingell's name. Hell, he's only been in office there since 1955 - you'd think they'd have gotten the spelling right by now!


Anyhow, any specific examples cited as to how this is going to "control your very lives"?

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:28 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
That's what government's for.
I thought you SAW Firefly, AU...?


The laughing Chrisisall
2010



See it ? Hell, I AM Malcolm Reynolds!

( minus the hot, gun toting babe who kicks serious ass and a really cool space ship..... )





...minus the friends, minus the witty comebacks, minus the looks, minus the talent, minus the military service record, minus the balls...

You're a legend in your own mind.

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:55 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Too bad they didn't have the "common sense" to go look up how to correctly spell Dingell's name. Hell, he's only been in office there since 1955 - you'd think they'd have gotten the spelling right by now!


Anyhow, any specific examples cited as to how this is going to "control your very lives"?



You go right ahead and play spelling nazi all day long, and just ignore the socialists / fascists who are taking over this country.

( Note, I said ARE, not 'want'. )

Just as long as you're being controlled by Barry, and not Bush or Cheney, right ?




Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor


Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:01 PM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
was it Ezra Pound who called Europe an "old bitch gone in the teeth" and a "botched civilization"? ;) Pro: he was a poet, and poets are all sensitive souls. Con: He was a fascist. Literally.



But America is an extension of European civilisation. Hey, you might be on to something

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

You go right ahead and play spelling nazi all day long, and just ignore the socialists / fascists who are taking over this country.


Fascism and socialism are too entirely different wings of the political spectrum.

*sits back and waits*

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:03 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
was it Ezra Pound who called Europe an "old bitch gone in the teeth" and a "botched civilization"? ;) Pro: he was a poet, and poets are all sensitive souls. Con: He was a fascist. Literally.



But America is an extension of European civilisation. Hey, you might be on to something

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

You go right ahead and play spelling nazi all day long, and just ignore the socialists / fascists who are taking over this country.


Fascism and socialism are too entirely different wings of the political spectrum.

*sits back and waits*

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Rappy really hates it when you distract him with "facts". ;)


Meanwhile, I'm STILL waiting for him to provide some specifics in HOW this bill is "controlling" the American people, or how it's going to be the doom of this nation.




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:04 PM

MINCINGBEAST


ack! i, and my fellow Mericans, are the progeny of a botched old toothless bitch!

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:06 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


By the way, the fascists were in power the last eight years. I'd much rather have the socialists.


Rappy much preferred it when the fascists were in power.

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:07 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
ack! i, and my fellow Mericans, are the progeny of a botched old toothless bitch!




Are you from Georgia too? ;)

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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:28 PM

MINCINGBEAST


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
ack! i, and my fellow Mericans, are the progeny of a botched old toothless bitch!




Are you from Georgia too? ;)



Georgia? Heaven forbid. I'm from the modern world. ;)

I'm from California and I'm Jewish. Like Andy Kaufman, only not from Hollywood (he wasn't, either).

But sometimes, I claim to be Merican, and from Merica, just out of spite.



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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:33 PM

CITIZEN


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Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:13 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
wish the united states was more like europe


You can wish, but you've got a long way to go before your society improves that much.

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Sure Shitizen, but hopefully we never have the bad teeth of the Brits Now go get some tea you America hating douche...

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:54 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I'm really surprised that anyone's shocked by this. After all, the U.S. has been trying to control the people of Iraq for almost 20 years now, and we've been trying - and failing - to control the people in Afghanistan since 2001.

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:06 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
NOW you're getting it! Repos & Dims are both tools of the system!


Can't speak for everyone...but Harry Reid is a tool.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:40 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)




Of course, we COULD use the ol' argument that "Hero" and Rappy make, that we don't KNOW that this was John Dingell even speaking on that tape. Hell, they spelled his name "Dingle", so it might well be a Republican plant, or a tea-bagging scumbag trying to pass himself off as a Democrat.

And besides, I didn't listen to it, so in RappyWorld that proves that it wasn't said. After all, Rappy claims HE never heard any slurs directed against Obama ("Terrorist!" "Kill him!") during the campaign, and HE never heard anyone calling John Lewis the N-word on Sunday, so therefore it never happened. I guess that's the new Republican strategy: bury your head in your ass (again) and pretend it just didn't happen!




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:16 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


18,000 die from "lack of medical care".

2,000,000 die from "too much medical care".

Do the math.

Quote:

"Finding the Russian scientists may be a problem being that Russia does not have a Social Security System, as here in America, that allows us to MONITOR, TRACK DOWN and CAPTURE an American citizen."
-General Colin Powell
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d36_1183309449

"The most stunning statistic, however, is that the total number of deaths caused by conventional medicine is an astounding 783,936 per year. It is now evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the US. Using Leape's 1997 medical and drug error rate would add another 216,000 deaths, for a total of 999,936 deaths annually. Our estimated 10-year total of 7.8 million iatrogenic* deaths is more than all the casualties from all the wars fought by the US throughout its entire history. Our considerably higher figure is equivalent to six jumbo jets are falling out of the sky each day."
—Gary Null, PhD; Carolyn Dean MD, ND; Martin Feldman, MD; Debora Rasio, MD; Dorothy Smith, PhD, "Death by Medicine", March 2004 (plus 1-Million annual aborticides in USA)
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_01.htm

Merck brags Vioxx killed more people than Americans killed in the Vietnam War
http://www.ktradionetwork.com/2009/11/25/vioxx-scandal-news/
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=40946

"Harold Shipman, the British family doctor who murdered more than 200 of his patients to become one of the worst serial killers of all time, hanged himself in his prison cell on the eve of his 58th birthday, prison officials said. Shipman was sentenced to life imprisonment in January 2000 for the murder of 15 female patients between 1975 and 1998, and faced no prospect of parole. Two years later an inquiry concluded that he was responsible for the deaths by lethal injection of at least another 200 mostly female and elderly patients at his greater Manchester area practice. Most of Shipman's victims died suddenly without having experienced any life-threatening symptoms. They were, by and large, elderly women who died after being given a lethal injection, usually of morphine, while Shipman visited them in their homes."
—Reuters, "Britain's worst serial killer Dr. 'Death' dies in prison," January 13, 2004
www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1024925.htm

United Nations Codex Alimentarius treaty to ban all vitamins except by Dr prescription
http://www.codexalimentarius.net
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Alimentarius
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5266884912495233634

"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."
-Nazi Prince Philip King of Canada in the 53-nation British Empire in charge of bioweapons labs, If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986
http://www.whoownstheworld.com/about-the-book/largest-landowner/

"In 2003 I had a patient who was a patient in my drug-free medical practice, who was a head of state. One day she said, 'You know, it's almost time for the Great Culling to begin. The Great Culling, when you thin the herd. It's almost time for the Useless Eaters to be culled. Those are the people who are consuming our unrenewable natural resources.' I said, 'Who's behind that?' She said, 'We, the aristocrats.'"
-Dr Rima Laibow MD, wife of General Albert Stubblebine (commander of Men Who Kill Goats in CIA's Project Stargate), Bilderberg Conspiracy Theory with Govenor Jesse Ventura
youtube.com/watch?v=4Az0csNr5B0
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?page_id=300
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5266884912495233634
youtube.com/watch?v=dIuYNaDIFm0

"A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
-Ted Turner, founder of CNN News who was paid $3-billion salary tax-free in one day and owns 1,910,000 acres (more land in USA than any other US citizen), father of 5 kids, Bilderberg Secret Society
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261

"Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature."
-Georgia Guidestones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones



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Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:35 AM

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:44 AM

PIZMOBEACH

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Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
18,000 die from "lack of medical care".

2,000,000 die from "too much medical care".

Do the math.



Okay... if we do nothing 2,018,000 die.
So, let's pass a bill that gets us "Just the Right Amount" of medical care.

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:49 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
18,000 die from "lack of medical care".

2,000,000 die from "too much medical care".

Do the math.



Okay... if we do nothing 2,018,000 die.
So, let's pass a bill that gets us "Just the Right Amount" of medical care.



Just enforce the death penalty against dr's who kill.

The dr who kill my father in law 2 months ago was shaking so bad he could barely talk. That's called a guilty conscience. He had ignored the diagnosis of cancer by the ER doc, since that won't make any money for the GI surgeons, just the oncologist. The surgery was to fix a problem caused by the unnecessary swallowing of a videocam by dr's orders. His father was killed by VA docs during a similar GI surgery.

Obamacare is a bailout of the insurance companies, thanks to 30-million new paying coustomers at gunpoint. Gotta keep those insurance execs' $200,000-per-week salaries. Insurance co lawyers wrote the 2,700 page bill that Congress was not allowed to read.

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:13 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:


The dr who kill my father in law 2 months ago was shaking so bad he could barely talk. That's called a guilty conscience.



Huh. Who knew Michael J. Fox is really just suffering from a guilty conscience...

PN, your grasp of medical topics is second only to your grasp of all things Jewish. You haven't a fucking clue about either one.




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions


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Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:21 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Fascism and socialism are too entirely different wings of the political spectrum.

*sits back and waits*



Gov't control of the private sector and redistribution of wealth. Might be on different ends of the spectrum in your world, but Obama and Company are incorporating both.

You can nit pick on the text book definitions all you like, at what's going on here, in IN OUR COUNTRY. We've already fought 1 revolution for freedom, if you recall.


Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor


Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:32 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Gov't control of the private sector and redistribution of wealth. Might be on different ends of the spectrum in your world, but Obama and Company are incorporating both.

You can nit pick on the text book definitions all you like, at what's going on here, in IN OUR COUNTRY.


I don't need to nitpick anything. I'm right, Socialism and Fascism are completely different political ideals, on completely different ends of the political spectrum, with completely different ways of seeing the private sector. You can accept reality, or you can choose to deny it, it's up to you.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
We've already fought 1 revolution for freedom, if you recall.


Well, the French did most of the fighting, but it's hard to see the relevance of this statement, unless you were trying to Troll.

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:39 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
what's going on here, in IN OUR COUNTRY.

OUR COUNTRY is a part of OUR WORLD, numbnuts. You can't single out a group & say they are fascist AND socialist without proof of the conspiratorial schizophrenic dichotomy.

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Obama's black
AU's mad.


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:41 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
You can accept reality, or you can choose to deny it, it's up to you.



Denial; AU absolutely swims in it.


The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:43 AM

MINCINGBEAST


Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
We've already fought 1 revolution for freedom, if you recall.


Well, the French did most of the fighting, but it's hard to see the relevance of this statement, unless you were trying to Troll.



Egads, what would be worse? To be pwned by your own colonists, or the french?

i actually admire the brits, and am not convinced that revolution was in our best interets. i would gladly pledge homage to your monarch, or prime minister, whatever and alas.

but its not fair. ya'll have a head start on botching your civilization, but given time, we can and will catch up.

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:54 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
Egads, what would be worse? To be pwned by your own colonists, or the french?


Heh. surely what would be worse would be getting the French to do your fighting for you :p.

Although really it was the French the Spanish and the Dutch.

Quote:

Originally posted by mincingbeast:
but its not fair. ya'll have a head start on botching your civilization, but given time, we can and will catch up.


There's that American can-do attitude :p

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:08 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
what's going on here, in IN OUR COUNTRY.

OUR COUNTRY is a part of OUR WORLD, numbnuts. You can't single out a group & say they are fascist AND socialist without proof of the conspiratorial schizophrenic dichotomy.

AU's back
he's bad
Obama's black
AU's mad.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Ruh-roh... Get ready for some crazy parsing of words from Rappy! After all, he never said he was mad that Obama's black! He said he was pissed that Obama's black!




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Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:10 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by citizen:
You can accept reality, or you can choose to deny it, it's up to you.



Denial; AU absolutely swims in it.




I'm expecting him to deny that. ;)

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:38 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Well, the French did most of the fighting, but it's hard to see the relevance of this statement, unless you were trying to Troll.



Don't recall any battles across the French countryside.....

Wow.


Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor


Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:43 AM

CHRISISALL


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Don't recall any battles across the French countryside.....

Wow.


I see you're a student of History...


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Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:51 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Don't recall any battles across the French countryside.....

Wow.


I see you're a student of History...


The laughing Chrisisall




Yes, Kwickie, I wrote that. Of course, I was referring to battles for AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE....

Washington crossed the Delaware, not the Siene, if I recall.




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Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:56 AM

CITIZEN


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Don't recall any battles across the French countryside.....

Wow.


no, there were battles in the New World mostly formed by French troops. You can look it up if you like, the penultimate battle of the War of Independence had more French troops fighting than American.

The French wanted to get their own back for the British kicking them out of Canada. Then using the American war of Independence as inspiration the French Peasants rose up and killed their aristocracy. It's a fascinating period of foreign policy blowback.

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:08 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by citizen:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Don't recall any battles across the French countryside.....

Wow.


no, there were battles in the New World mostly formed by French troops. You can look it up if you like, the penultimate battle of the War of Independence had more French troops fighting than American.

The French wanted to get their own back for the British kicking them out of Canada. Then using the American war of Independence as inspiration the French Peasants rose up and killed their aristocracy. It's a fascinating period of foreign policy blowback.

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C'mon, Cit - you don't honestly expect Rappy to know anything about all that, do you? If they didn't teach it in 5th grade, he doesn't have any idea what you're talking about.


By the way, a big part of that French uprising had to do with the royalty of France spending the country into a deep, deep recession in joining the American side in the war against the British. Seems when the people see you've blown the country's wealth making war on other people for no discernible benefit to your own people, they kinda get a bit pissed.

You'd think that Bush might have known something about that, but apparently he never studied history any better than Rappy did.




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Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:50 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by citizen:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Don't recall any battles across the French countryside.....

Wow.


no, there were battles in the New World mostly formed by French troops. You can look it up if you like, the penultimate battle of the War of Independence had more French troops fighting than American.

The French wanted to get their own back for the British kicking them out of Canada. Then using the American war of Independence as inspiration the French Peasants rose up and killed their aristocracy. It's a fascinating period of foreign policy blowback.



Never said the French weren't involved, nor did I suggest they weren't vital. Just never heard that more French troops were fighting on American soil than Americans. That little lagniappe appears to be debatable.

I'm somewhat familiar w/, the Hessians ( Germans ) who fought, as conscripts, for the British. It happens to be part of my ancestry.

I think I recall something about the French and English not getting along back then.....


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Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:14 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


In 1688, the French-Canadians began paying for every enemy scalp, too, by the way. This encouraged the emergence of groups trying to make a business out of scalping settlers.

Of course, the British responded in 1693 by announcing that they would pay money for the scalps of Frenchmen and their Indian allies. As much as £100 was obtained for an important scalp.

Not pertinent to the discussion, but reflective of the French mentality (hey, I can say that, I'm daughter of a French immigrant!).


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