They sure don't stand for anybody speaking out. Frum dared to say some things the right doesn't want heard, so they took action:[quote]Former George W. ..."/>
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Ex speechwriter speaks truth (omigawd!). They fired him, of course
Friday, March 26, 2010 12:04 PM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:Former George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum has resigned from the right-wing American Enterprise Institute, Frum announced on his Web site Thursday afternoon -- a move which suggests the conservative movement has cut ties with Frum over the straight talk he has been providing all week. Following the passage of health care reform in the House, Frum made waves with a column for CNN.com declaring that health care had proven to been "Waterloo" for the GOP, not for Obama as Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) infamously suggested.Quote:"Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us and now we're discovering we work for Fox," Frum told ABC's Terry Moran. "And this balance here has been completely reversed. The thing that sustains a strong Fox network is the thing that undermines a strong Republican party." Frum laid the blame for the anger of anti-health reform protesters not with the GOP, but with talk radio and Fox News, which he said was the "real leadership" in setting the terms of the political debate on health care. "The anger trapped the [Republican] leadership," Frum said, and "the leadership discovered they have no room to maneuver as a result of the anger." http://rawstory.com/2010/03/frum-republicans-work-fox-news/ Republican lawmakers quickly dismissed Frum, a prominent reformist conservative, as a mere "former staffer." Then Frum said on "Nightline" that the Republican Party's lockstep with the Fox News attack machine has hurt the party, and that "we're discovering we work for Fox." That may have been the last straw for AEI. "I have been a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute since 2003. At lunch today, AEI President Arthur Brooks and I came to a termination of that relationship," Frum wrote on his Web site. While Frum has been willing to speak out on Republican failings, he's hardly become a liberal since leaving the Bush White House. In a column published Wednesday night, he recommended that Obama either ignore the issue of immigration reform or encourage "self-deportation." But the conservative movement has a tendency to excommunicate anyone who breaks ranks, says Bruce Bartlett, who was fired by the National Center for Policy Analysis, another right-wing think tank, for writing a book critical of Bush policies. "In the years since, I have lost a great many friends and been shunned by conservative society in Washington, D.C," Bartlett wrote in the wake of Frum's resignation. Bartlett, who served as a domestic policy aide for Ronald Reagan and a deputy assistant Treasury secretary under the first President Bush, claimed Frum told him privately a few months ago that conservatives on AEI's payroll had been "ordered" not to speak to the media about health care reform "because they agreed with too much of what Obama was trying to do." Frum himself certainly violated that order. [UPDATE: Supporting Bartlett's claim, Paul Krugman points out that a 2003 health reform proposal from the Heritage Foundation, a think tank considered more right-wing than AEI, looks a lot like the bill Obama just signed.] [UPDATE 2: Frum tells Mike Allen that "donor pressure" related to his "Waterloo" post was indeed responsible for his termination. Frum claims "the core of the story is the kind of economic pressure that intellectual conservatives are under" -- meaning AEI couldn't risk displeasing its base by keeping Frum on after he criticized the Republican Party. "[T]he elite isn't leading anymore," said Frum. "It's trapped." Earlier, Frum told Greg Sargent he and AEI parted ways over money, not ideology -- they offered him the chance to continue on at a salary of zero -- and that his criticisms of the Republican Party were "welcomed and celebrated" at the conservative think tank. Allen reports that AEI is standing by their earlier story that it was Frum's decision to leave.] [UPDATE 3: Frum's excommunication continues. At The Corner, Charles Murray calls Frum's statement to Mike Allen "despicable" and announces that their friendship of "many years" is over.]
Quote:"Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us and now we're discovering we work for Fox," Frum told ABC's Terry Moran. "And this balance here has been completely reversed. The thing that sustains a strong Fox network is the thing that undermines a strong Republican party." Frum laid the blame for the anger of anti-health reform protesters not with the GOP, but with talk radio and Fox News, which he said was the "real leadership" in setting the terms of the political debate on health care. "The anger trapped the [Republican] leadership," Frum said, and "the leadership discovered they have no room to maneuver as a result of the anger."
Friday, March 26, 2010 12:17 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Friday, March 26, 2010 12:26 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Friday, March 26, 2010 12:33 PM
Friday, March 26, 2010 1:14 PM
Quote:Right-wing commentators and politicians also go to extremes to demonize the commander in chief, daily denouncing Obama as a statist, a dictator, or in the words of Rep. Steve King a “Democratic socialist.” Mr. King had also warned that upon Obama’s election, “the radical Islamists and their supporters will be dancing in the streets.” Given this, should anyone be surprised at the latest Harris poll that reveals how thoroughly such overblown rhetoric has infused the GOP? Of the Republicans polled, 2 out of 3 believe Obama is a socialist, nearly as many think he is Muslim, and a full quarter suspect the president may be the anti-Christ.
Quote:That’s right: The anti-Christ. This is the current state of the Republican Party. So what’s the end result of all these stoked fears and raised temperatures? For one, they ensure that no matter how postpartisan Obama would like to be, he will not be given that chance. While Democrats compromised on the public option and abortion language in the healthcare bill, Republicans refused to even glance across the aisle, much less reach across it. How could they? They’ve sold their supporters on the idea that Democratic legislation is the first step to totalitarian dictatorship. Over the past week, Sen. Lindsey Graham threatened not to work with Democrats on immigration reform if they pushed through the healthcare bill. Sen. John McCain went one step further and promised “no cooperation for the rest of the year.” Over-the-top rhetoric also means the Republican Party will move even more right in the coming years. Politicians who betray a hint of moderation will face Tea Party challengers as formerly local races become national battles to purge the party of any but the most conservative. David Frum, former speechwriter for George W. Bush, sees disaster for the GOP in this strategy. Immediately after the vote on Sunday night, he declared it the Republican Waterloo. But even Mr. Frum can’t figure out a solution to the Republicans’ extremism problem. Until someone does, the GOP and its supporters will be reduced to railing against an apocalypse that never comes.
Friday, March 26, 2010 1:17 PM
Quote:Republican leadership is increasingly marginalized by their psuedo-populist right-wing, and feeling less secure in their ability to frame the debate and set an agenda. This is the natural result of playing to the extreme ends of religion: Religious people are followers and believers first of all, who will swallow ANY story, no matter how ridiculous. (Armageddon comes to mind!) Believers/ followers form mobs quite readily, as they're easily worked into a frenzy. So now they have a tiger by the tail: a racist, religious, and/or hyper-nationalistic bunch who will resort to threats of violence (which often presages action), who behave (to all intents and purposes) like Hilter's brownshirts.
Friday, March 26, 2010 1:41 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Friday, March 26, 2010 2:09 PM
Quote:As of February 2: 63% - Obama is a socialist 39% - Obama should be impeached 24% - Obama wants “the terrorists to win” 31% - Obama is “a racist who hates white people.” 36% - Obama wa nots born in this country 21% - ACORN stole the election for Obama. 23% - want their state to secede from the union 55% - gays should not be allowed to serve openly in the military 68% - gay couples should not receive “any state or federal benefits 73% - openly gay men and women should not be allowed to teach in public schools 51% - sex education should not be taught in schools 77% - creationismshould be taught in schools 31% - contraception should be outlawed 34% - birth control is “abortion.” 16% - would vote for Palin though 42% said they are undecided 53% - Palin more qualified than Obama
Quote:45% of Republicans (25 percent overall) Obama “not born in the United States and so is not eligible to be president” 38%- Obama is “doing many of the things that Hitler did” 67% - (and 40 percent of Americans overall) Obama is a socialist 57% - he's a Muslim 24% - “he may be the Antichrist" 61% - he wants to take guns away 51% - he wants to turn the sovereignty of the US government to a world government 55% - he ha done many things that are unconstitutional 47% - he resents America’s heritage 40% - he does what Wall Street tells him to do 45% - he wasn’t born in the US and isn’t eligible to be president 45% - he is a domestic enemy that the US Constitution speaks of 42% - he is a racist 41% - he is anti-American 41% - he wants to us economic collapse or terrorist attack to take dictatorial powers The poll, which surveyed 2,230 people right at the height of the health-care reform debate, also clearly shows that education is a barrier to extremism. Respondents without a college education are vastly more likely to believe such claims, while Americans with college degrees or better are less easily duped. It's a reminder of what the 19th-century educator Horace Mann once too-loftily said: "Ignorance breeds monsters to fill up the vacancies of the soul that are unoccupied by the verities of knowledge." This poll is the latest and most detailed evidence of the extent to which Wingnuts are hijacking our politics. It should be a wakeup call to all Americans and a collective reminder, as we move past health-care reform, that we need to stand up to extremism.
Friday, March 26, 2010 3:45 PM
Friday, March 26, 2010 5:19 PM
Quote:38%- Obama is “doing many of the things that Hitler did”
Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:14 AM
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