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Friday, March 26, 2010 1:09 PM

NIKI2

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This just kills me:
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An MSNBC host has taken a full page ad out Friday in The Boston Globe slamming Sen. Scott Brown, R-Massachusetts.

Rachel Maddow accuses the senator of making things up, and smearing her to raise money and, essentially, insulting Massachusetts.

In the ad, Maddow, who lives in Massachusetts, criticizes Brown for a fundraising e-mail that he sent out this week where he suggests she might challenge him in 2012.


"efore I've even settled into my new job, the political machine in Massachusetts is looking for someone to run against me," Brown wrote supporters. "And you're not going to believe who they are supposedly trying to recruit – liberal MSNBC anchor Rachel Maddow."

Brown's e-mail then takes a shot at the cable news host. "I just don't think America can afford her liberal policies," he said.

Brown cited an obscure Boston-area blog post from March 5 as the source of the Maddow rumors.

Firing back, Maddow wrote in her ad, which she also posted on her blog that Brown, "made that up."

"I'm not running against Scott Brown," Maddow wrote. "I never said I was running against Scott Brown. The Massachusetts Democratic Party never asked me to run against Scott Brown."

"It's just not true. Honestly. I swear." The cable news host added that Brown "never even tried to find out if it was true."

Instead, Maddow claimed Brown is smearing one of his constituents to "scare donors into giving him more money." Maddow said, to her, that feels like Brown is insulting Massachusetts.

Brown won his seat in a January special election to fill the remaining three years of the late Democratic Sen. Edward Kennedy. But he must face voters again, in 2012, to win a full term.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/26/msnbc-host-denies-sena
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Friday, March 26, 2010 1:14 PM

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Friday, March 26, 2010 1:35 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Ahhh, good ol' Rappy - topical as never!




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Friday, March 26, 2010 1:59 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Ahhh, good ol' Rappy - topical as never!




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions




Don't you mean 'tropical' as Ever?

See, Rangel works at so many levels.....

( well, 'works' is stretching it a bit... )

Madcow NOT running is.....well, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.


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Friday, March 26, 2010 2:15 PM

NIKI2

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Naw, Mike, I think it's fair. I post to his sometimes...tho' mine is less ugly maybe...

To me it's interesting 'cuz Brown pulled it out of thin air and is using it to solicit donations. That's a statement right there...and he's continuing, despite everything she does. Hey, that good old Republican tactic: FEAR!! Brings in the dough...


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Friday, March 26, 2010 2:49 PM

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Now THAT'S funny!




The Dems fabricate FEAR after the recent vote, with their willing accomplices, the media.



After fanning the flames of idiot discontent, did anyone ever hear any retractions or corrections by either the media OR the Dems ?


No?

Figures.




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Friday, March 26, 2010 3:02 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
To me it's interesting 'cuz Brown pulled it out of thin air and is using it to solicit donations. That's a statement right there...and he's continuing, despite everything she does. Hey,that good old Republican tactic: FEAR!! Brings in the dough...


You find that video evidence for Auraptor yet?

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Friday, March 26, 2010 3:17 PM

SIGNYM

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Really, you are never going to convince Repubs that Repubs play on fear more than Dems. At times, it's tempting to use the same tactics as the Repubs, except that Dems tend not to run as scared as right-wingers.

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Friday, March 26, 2010 3:49 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Really, you are never going to convince Repubs that Repubs play on fear more than Dems. At times, it's tempting to use the same tactics as the Repubs, except that Dems tend not to run as scared as right-wingers.



That's because it's not even remotely true. Look at the hyper over reaction we saw on the news over the so called 'threats'....

Conservatives get death threats routinely, and they don't go whining to the media and have press conferences over it. The national networks don't breathlessly lead their shows with 'breaking news' over harassing letters sent to Michelle Bachmann, or talk show hosts, like Boortz or Limbaugh. Hell, it's almost routine.

And lets not overlook the non stop threats sent, by the Left to Stupak ...

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Now, the infamous Bart Stupak is getting in on the act. Stupak has released a series of offensive voicemails he received after abandoning his "principled" stand against public abortion funding in the health care bill. The contents of these messages are, indeed, venomous and totally inappropriate. The media is eagerly circulating the audio because it fuels their "look out, the crazy wingnuts are gettin' dangerous" narrative.

Curiously, Stupak chose not to make public any of the harassing calls and threats leveled against him waaayyy back when he was still seen as a major obstacle to Obamacare's passage. Even after one report emerged that Stupak was facing relentless intimidation from the Left, there were no breathless bulletins, no public hand-wringing, no front page headlines. Curiouser. Indeed, mere days before his epic cave-job, The Hill reported how Stupak's life had become a "living hell"








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Friday, March 26, 2010 3:50 PM

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Fuck it, vote for her anyway.

I mean come on, the dumb shit just HANDED IT TO HER on a silver platter with his typical GOP overblown stupidity, and "cheerleaders" like these rightwingnut morons in this very thread would skew the vote in her favor as they slime him by mere association.

Dude, that's win-win, innit ?

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Friday, March 26, 2010 3:52 PM

FREMDFIRMA


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Conservatives fake up death threats routinely, and then go whining to the media and have press conferences over it. The national networks breathlessly lead their shows with 'breaking news' over harassing letters sent to Michelle Bachmann, or talk show hosts, like Boortz or Limbaugh. Hell, it's almost routine.


There fixed that for you.

To reflect accuracy, right ?

Don't blame me, YOU handed me the petard to hoist you on there.

-F

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Friday, March 26, 2010 3:59 PM

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F

You're acting out like a child now. And you're just pissed because I'm right, and there's not a god damn thing you can do about it.

Suck it up.


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Friday, March 26, 2010 3:59 PM

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Friday, March 26, 2010 4:05 PM

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and "cheerleaders" like these LEFT wingnut morons...






Too easy.


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Friday, March 26, 2010 5:07 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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After fanning the flames of idiot discontent, did anyone ever hear any retractions or corrections by either the media OR the Dems ?



Why would the media or the Democrats issue retractions because the Republican idiots fanned their own discontent? After all, I didn't hear the Democrats screaming that this was "Armageddon", did you?

By the way, the GOP already acknowledged that fear is its big money-raiser. Maybe you missed the memo. You must have been hiding under your bed from the big bad terrorists.




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Friday, March 26, 2010 5:08 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
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Originally posted by Niki2:
To me it's interesting 'cuz Brown pulled it out of thin air and is using it to solicit donations. That's a statement right there...and he's continuing, despite everything she does. Hey,that good old Republican tactic: FEAR!! Brings in the dough...


You find that video evidence for Auraptor yet?




Did you nod off? That was posted on the other thread hours ago. Even Rappy admitted the guy spit on Cleaver.




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Friday, March 26, 2010 5:11 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Conservatives get death threats routinely, and they don't go whining to the media and have press conferences over it.



Well, unless they're Eric Cantor. Or Karl Rove, who went on TV to proclaim that the only reason Democrats were talking about death threats was to get sympathy and attention - and then went into EXPLICIT detail about the death threats he's gotten, a clear ploy on his part to gain sympathy and attention, according to him.






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Friday, March 26, 2010 5:12 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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After fanning the flames of idiot discontent, did anyone ever hear any retractions or corrections by either the media OR the Dems ?



Why would the media or the Democrats issue retractions because the Republican idiots fanned their own discontent? After all, I didn't hear the Democrats screaming that this was "Armageddon", did you?



Boehner was talking about the disastrous bill which was signed, and not the phony, trumped up hysteria that the Left ( and the MSM ) were screaming about, at every turn. But way to stay off topic, per usual.

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By the way, the GOP already acknowledged that fear is its big money-raiser. Maybe you missed the memo. You must have been hiding under your bed from the big bad terrorists.



Link ?


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Friday, March 26, 2010 5:26 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Did you nod off? That was posted on the other thread hours ago. Even Rappy admitted the guy spit on Cleaver.


You are so right, I also witnessed the racist mob of tea partiers... hey wait a tick.

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Friday, March 26, 2010 5:37 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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After fanning the flames of idiot discontent, did anyone ever hear any retractions or corrections by either the media OR the Dems ?



Why would the media or the Democrats issue retractions because the Republican idiots fanned their own discontent? After all, I didn't hear the Democrats screaming that this was "Armageddon", did you?



Boehner was talking about the disastrous bill which was signed, and not the phony, trumped up hysteria that the Left ( and the MSM ) were screaming about, at every turn. But way to stay off topic, per usual.



And way to miss the point entirely, per usual. Boehner's reaction was EXACTLY the phony, trumped-up hysteria you constantly accuse the left (and the MSM) of. Obama got some pretty good laughs at Boehner's expense on that one, too. "Armageddon? I looked around; it was a pretty nice day!"

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By the way, the GOP already acknowledged that fear is its big money-raiser. Maybe you missed the memo. You must have been hiding under your bed from the big bad terrorists.



Link ?




http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/33866.html

Really, I'm surprised you missed this one. Guess FauxNews and Limbaugh didn't mention it, eh? I can see why; it's embarrassing as hell to the GOP.





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Friday, March 26, 2010 6:28 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:


Did you nod off? That was posted on the other thread hours ago. Even Rappy admitted the guy spit on Cleaver.



No, not exactly. I said it's possible the shouter, in the midst of being overly animated, may have 'sprayed' Cleaver, who walked directly in front of him, but there wasn't any indication that he 'spit' on the Congressman, or that did anything which was premeditated. I don't even know if the man in the hat SAW Cleaver until he was directly in front of him.


See, it's this sort of intentional distortion and misrepresentation of what others say and post on here that makes honest and sincere debate nearly impossible. I never "admitted " any such thing, and yet you felt perfectly fine to lie about my view on this matter.



At least man up and admit that much. I feel I made my view on the matter very clear.


And as for fundraising, there's no 'fear mongering' in trying to raise awareness and there by support for your side by reporting the truth. Hell, at least the GOP isn't spreading lies and true fear, like the NAACP did , back in 2000.....

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Things got ugly early between the NAACP and Bush the candidate in 2000, when the group ran an anti-Bush ad featuring the daughter of James Byrd Jr., a black Texas man who was tied to a pickup truck and dragged to his death by three white men.


( the ad failed to mention that 2 of the three men were sentenced to death, the 3rd got a life sentence )

and this.....
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-- the Missouri Democratic Party ran this radio ad: "When you don't vote, you let another church explode. When you don't vote, you allow another cross to burn. When you don't vote, you let another assault wound a brother or sister. When you don't vote, you let the Republicans continue to cut school lunches and Head Start.



But it's the GOP you want to call out for " fear mongering "

wow.


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Friday, March 26, 2010 7:01 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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No, not exactly. I said it's possible the shouter, in the midst of being overly animated, may have 'sprayed' Cleaver, who walked directly in front of him, but there wasn't any indication that he 'spit' on the Congressman, or that did anything which was premeditated. I don't even know if the man in the hat SAW Cleaver until he was directly in front of him.


See, it's this sort of intentional distortion and misrepresentation of what others say and post on here that makes honest and sincere debate nearly impossible. I never "admitted " any such thing, and yet you felt perfectly fine to lie about my view on this matter.



Actually, it's not a misrepresentation at all. YOU said "say it, don't SPRAY IT." What were you implying was sprayed, if not spit? When you say, "Say it, don't spray it," to what does that generally refer? WHAT came out of his mouth and hit the Congressman?

Now, you can SAY that maybe he didn't mean to, maybe he didn't even see Cleaver there - but you can't KNOW any of that. What you CAN know is that spit flew from his mouth and hit the Congressman. At least man up and admit that much.


As for the rest, way to dodge. Hell, I'm just pointing out to you what the Republican National Party is saying it is using for fund-raising and issue awareness, and THEY are the ones who point out that FEAR is one of their best weapons. I didn't write that book, it's not a Democrat "plant" as you seem to think everything that damns your already damnable party is; it's their own presentation.

But you won't even address that issue, will you? Too close to home for ya?

Now, you're big on not wanting all your tea-bagging buddies tarred with the same racist brush, and you insist that it's only a few bad apples - yet you're all too happy to try to tar all Democrats and all liberals with the actions of a few - or even of "The One", aren't you?

So spare us all your righteous indignation. We already know how you really feel about black people; you've made it plainly evident time and again. To try to backtrack now is just pitiful. Might as well man up and admit it, and own your hate.




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Friday, March 26, 2010 7:11 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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And as for fundraising, there's no 'fear mongering' in trying to raise awareness and there by support for your side by reporting the truth. Hell, at least the GOP isn't spreading lies and true fear, like the NAACP did , back in 2000.....



That sounds an awful lot like a "Yeah, but..."

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Friday, March 26, 2010 7:14 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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And as for fundraising, there's no 'fear mongering' in trying to raise awareness and there by support for your side by reporting the truth. Hell, at least the GOP isn't spreading lies and true fear, like the NAACP did , back in 2000.....



That sounds an awful lot like a "Yeah, but..."



No it doesn't, not in the least.

I've debunked your claim and followed it up with an example of what truly IS fearmongering.

And you are lying about what I SAID and what you wanted to IMPLY I meant.

This is beyond tedious. Now you're simply being the contrarian because you have nothing else to offer, and no point to make.


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Friday, March 26, 2010 7:57 PM

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So, would you two prefer a stately promenade, is this more of a samba goin on ?
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Friday, March 26, 2010 8:13 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Fuck it, vote for her anyway.

I mean come on, the dumb shit just HANDED IT TO HER on a silver platter with his typical GOP overblown stupidity, and "cheerleaders" like these rightwingnut morons in this very thread would skew the vote in her favor as they slime him by mere association.

Dude, that's win-win, innit ?

-F




That's not a bad point, but I think Maddow's got far more power doing what she's doing now. And obviously the right agrees with that assessment, which is why they want her to drop her show(s) and run against Brown. And I kinda wish she would, because I think she'd take him. Hell, if Al Franken could take that dipshit Norm Coleman, I'm betting Rachel would annihilate Brown. But I'd rather have her right where she is, where she can do more good.




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Friday, March 26, 2010 8:35 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

That's not a bad point, but I think Maddow's got far more power doing what she's doing now. And obviously the right agrees with that assessment, which is why they want her to drop her show(s) and run against Brown. And I kinda wish she would, because I think she'd take him. Hell, if Al Franken could take that dipshit Norm Coleman, I'm betting Rachel would annihilate Brown. But I'd rather have her right where she is, where she can do more good.



Oh yeah, Maddow's got MUCH more power and influence, on her little cable t.v. show, than she'd EVER have as a U.S. Senator from the state of MA.




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Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:57 AM

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I pondered under which thread to post this, or whether to start it's own thread, but finally decided to add it here.

I guess now that she's not running, she feels that it's ok to incite violence.

Good for her!

( sarcasm added, for those slow on the uptake )

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Rachel Maddow incites violence
2010 MARCH 26
BY NEWSREAL BLOG
by Tabitha Hale

“Be careful what you wish for – the right to bear arms means that everyone can bear arms.”

“We will be fighting you to the death.”

“I’m so glad that I saw Rachel Maddow. She’s brilliant. She’s absolutely fantastic. And her diagnosis of the ills of the American right are so right on. I mean, basically, what you’re doing is just saying no. You’re like belligerent children. You have no concept of how hard people have worked to get this together, and to make sure that we win. We WILL win, and will continue. That’s why Obama got elected.”

“We are now organized. We will show up at your town meetings, and your town halls, and trust me, it’s a force to be reckoned with.”

Sounds pretty threatening to me… but will Rachel condemn this? I’m sure she won’t. How about any of these phone calls, posted back in August?

http://www.freedomworks.org/press-releases/freedomworks-issues-abject-
apology-to-left






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Saturday, March 27, 2010 6:27 AM

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Damn, catching up again. And grumpy (long story). Going back to where I left off:

Yeah, Sig, I know; the best defense is an offense, and they’ll never admit, no matter what the facts, that it’s the Republicans who are best at the fear thing. Eh.

What gets me is that Crappy’s post has NOTHING to do with the thread, and that issue is being discussed all over the board...why invade this thread? (rhetorical question) Why is anyone responding to him? This tactic is pure, predictable idiocy and taunting, and has nothing to do with reality. Typical dust storm, of no interest.

Cuda; the pic you put up is from her fake “ad” satirizing the situation; it’s a joke, but you know that. I’d post the real thing, but it’s not worth it.

I don’t know why in hell (except that he’s a shit disturber!) Mike even wants to get INTO it with the dust bunny; he DID say he thought it was an unintentional spray, so there’s an end to that. Nonetheless, I saw the memo from the GOP too, and anyone who’s fair knows it’s the Repub tactic—served them great the last eight years.

On top of which, another tactic is the good old offense is a good defense. I almost couldn’t believe both Boehner and Cantor coming out and blaming the DEMS for fomenting violence, given they’ve been doing it for eight years and now again (and worse) for another two. Of course I COULD believe it, but it’s astonishing nonetheless. And transparent as hell.
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And as for fundraising, there's no 'fear mongering' in trying to raise awareness and there by support for your side by reporting the truth.
THAT is the biggest laugh I’ve had yet this morning, and purely a lie. There was no debunking; aside from swinging to the NAACP for “verification”, when it has nothing to do with them, is evading, nothing more.

I agree with everything Mike said about Maddow running. First off, she has NO desire to do so, she’s just pissed they’re using her to get donations, as they ADMIT they are using the “repeal” and the lawsuits. They admit it; it’s true; and they’ve admitted it fires people up. I’ll post cites if anyone needs them, I saw it come out of their own mouths. Actually, she does have more power. We’ve seen exactly how much “power” there can be, even with majorities in Congress and a President...she digs for the facts and opens them up for people, and we need that.

At no time has she ever incited violence, that I can guarantee. She dealt honestly and sarcastically with them using her for scare tactics and good gawd, if the Repubs can’t be held to account for ALL the things they’ve said, and denying them is idiotic given how long it’s gone on and how they’ve been riling up their base all ALONG. She’s a TV commentator; so if you want, ignore FauxNews’ scare tactics and how they’ve been fomenting dissent, but the Republican politicians themselves have done so. End of story.

Damn, and here I popped into this expecting some debate, and all I find is nitpicking and slamming back and forth between people who wouldn’t admit the truth if a Repub stood up in Congress and shouted “we’re gonna kill you!” I get all the way to the bottom and that's all I find. What a waste of time; I’m not wasting any more of mine—surely somewhere there’s a decent discussion going on!


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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