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Moth Forces Wine Country's Secret Into the Open

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UPDATED: Monday, March 29, 2010 07:36
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Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:46 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Bastards. This sickens me, and pisses me off!
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Appearance of grape-eating moth in California's premier vineyards brings 'secret' to light

One of the dirty secrets of California's wine country is now on everyone's lips.

Somehow a voracious grape-eating moth has found its way nonstop from Europe to the heart of the Napa Valley, the land of three-figure cabernet. With valuable fruit at risk, the region's fast and loose play with federal agriculture quarantine laws is getting new scrutiny from investigators and researchers.

Suitcase smuggling is the winked-at act of sneaking in cane cuttings to clone vines from France's premier vineyards, hoping to replicate success. Vintners say it helped build a handful of exceptional vineyards in the 1980s when U.S. plant choices were limited and import testing took seven years.

As California clamps a quarantine across the heart of Napa Valley and farmers ready their pesticides, nobody is winking anymore. A new Napa reality is setting in— that lax attitudes invite costly invasions of new pests that can threaten the country's most expensive and economically productive farmland.

"There are people who continue to spin their tales of smuggled plant material. People like a story with a glass of wine, and what that tends to do is legitimize behavior that not only threatens the industry, it's illegal," said Greg Clark, deputy agricultural commissioner for Napa County. "Knock it off."

A handful of California's best vintners today admit to having used "suitcase cloning" to avoid yearslong waits in USDA quarantine for their vines.

Their stories of success after stuffing cane buds down pants legs and in backpacks romanticized an outlaw behavior that, even if it's not directly responsible for a coming wave of vineyard spraying over most of Napa Valley, has reminded growers that one person's miscalculation can affect them all.

"The question is 'Who brought it in?" asks Jim Lincoln, who manages 400 acres of grapes in the quarantine area.

Theories are swirling around Napa like cabernet in a Riedel glass: smuggled grape cuttings; imported vineyard machinery mislabeled to avoid scrutiny, as is suspected in Chile's similar outbreak, or, even more sinister, a deliberate introduction to gain an edge in a region where an acre of fruit can sell for $15,000 and more.

(more at http://abcnews.go.com/US/wirestory?id=10218531&page=2)


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, shoot Niki, those quarantine laws are just big gubmint getting in the way of free enterprise! (Serves 'em bloody well right!)

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Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:39 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Thought you said METH is Wine Country's secret ingredient...

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Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:36 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Yeah, Sig...really pisses me off to find this out...I'd like to say "Good! They deserve the moth", but that would hurt too many good people. Pisses me off, tho'...both insofar as the smuggling AND the fact that they shouldn't be "stealing" stuff from overseas, their wines should stand on their own, dammit! (I guess my mentality is "that's cheating!")

The Wine Country is by and large a very conservative area...aside from the fact it's a stupid remark, that's the last place you'd find meth. The Coast, university towns, and the enclaves of hippiedom, yes, but not Napa!


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Sunday, March 28, 2010 5:04 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Couple of things.

First, is there any actual proof that the moths came in with the 'smuggled' cuttings? The article trys to imply this, but provides no evidence.

Second, if it wasn't for California growers, there wouldn't be any French vines to take cuttings from. The French took American cuttings in the 1800s and tried to make a better grape, but introduced an American aphid that almost wiped out the French vineyards. Only introducing American rootstocks that were resistant to the bug and could be grafted with French vines saved the European wine industry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_French_Wine_Blight

Third, and just out of curiosity, would you show the same outrage if it were people smuggled into the country instead of grape vine cuttings?

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Monday, March 29, 2010 7:36 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I didn't know that about our vines, Geezer, thank you. I don't know if there's "proof", that's the only article I found, but it kinda seems to reason that if they've been deliberately smuggling vines, something might come along with them more likely than coming from another source.

As to illegal immigrants, of COURSE I'm equally outraged...I take it that was a stab at my liberal philosophy, but a rather obvious and ridiculous one! No curiosity involved, I'm sure, just an attempted dig. Why you would think I was any more sympathetic to smugglers of humans than smugglers of vines only shows how slanted your opinion of liberals is!

I have more SYMPATHY for the people being smuggled, given the horror stories I've heard, than I do for people in the Wine Country who don't need to smuggling vines in, but I consider both equally unconscionable.

Illegal immigrants are a big issue here, obviously because we're on the border and they're all around us. I feel sorry for them, as I see them lining the streets in one part of town hoping for work and some of them "living" out on the marsh in makeshift mattresses, but I'm also bigoted enough to feel a twinge when I in that part of town you can't go into a store without the clerk rattling away to someone else in Spanis; I hate that, makes me wonder if they're talking about me or something. My own issue. But it's the smugglers I abhor, same as the Wine Country.


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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