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Thursday, April 1, 2010 11:13 AM

MAL4PREZ


Today CREW submitted a formal complaint regarding the "C Street House". It's been in the works for some time, and I've done some reading on it. It kind of chills the marrow.

The complaint: http://www.citizensforethics.org/files/20100401%20-%20CSt%20-%20OCE%20
Complaint.pdf


focuses on the financial aspects of the C Street House, claiming that members of congress living there (both D and R) have broken rules regarding gifts. But the scary part, to me, is in the Family's openly admitted way of operating - total conspiracy theory fodder. This looks like some kind of white male pseudo-religious cult that has infiltrated the US govt, as well as other countries around the world. It seems to be the backbone of the conservative pro-whitebread-America pro-business crowd that's been controlling DC for some time.

Background, from http://www.worldmag.com/articles/15778

The C Street house is one of many properties in the greater Washington area owned by the Fellowship Foundation, which sponsors the annual National Prayer Breakfast, Bible studies, social gatherings, and private retreats, and funds international development.

"Associates" (employees) of the Fellowship say its mission is to show the love of Jesus to the world's leaders. But it has no website to publicize that work, and those affiliated are extremely reluctant—if not prohibited, say some—to talk about it.

Some inside scoop on one of their other properties: http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525

The mansion is named for these trees; it is called The Cedars, and Family members speak of it as a person. “The Cedars has a heart for the poor,” they like to say. By “poor” they mean not the thousands of literal poor living barely a mile away but rather the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom: the senators, generals, and prime ministers who coast to the end of Twenty-fourth Street in Arlington in black limousines and town cars and hulking S.U.V.'s to meet one another, to meet Jesus, to pay homage to the god of The Cedars.

There they forge “relationships” beyond the din of vox populi (the Family's leaders consider democracy a manifestation of ungodly pride) and “throw away religion” in favor of the truths of the Family. Declaring God's covenant with the Jews broken, the group's core members call themselves “the new chosen.”

Some history: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120746516

In 1974, a Family prayer group of Republican congressmen and former secretary of defense Melvin Laird helped convince President Gerald Ford that Richard Nixon deserved not just Christian forgiveness but also a legal pardon. That same year, Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist led the Family's first weekly Bible study for federal judges.

"I wish I could say more about it," Ronald Reagan publicly demurred back in 1985, "but it's working precisely because it is private."

"We desire to see a leadership led by God," reads a confidential mission statement. "Leaders of all levels of society who direct projects as they are led by the spirit." Another principle expanded upon is stealthiness; members are instructed to pursue political jujitsu by making use of secular leaders "in the work of advancing His kingdom," and to avoid whenever possible the label Christian itself, lest they alert enemies to that advance. Regular prayer groups, or "cells" as they're often called, have met in the Pentagon and at the Department of Defense, and the Family has traditionally fostered strong ties with businessmen in the oil and aerospace industries.

And what list of references would be complete without the all-knowing wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fellowship_%28Christian_organization%
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I ask: is this real? It seems so completely fictional! And yet, multiple sources speak of it, and it admits to its own secretive and power-hungry ways. Anyone know more of this?

But first, a request: let's try to let all the smelly winds blow right through. If any post name-calls and taunts rather than adding anything on topic, please ignore it.

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Thursday, April 1, 2010 11:20 AM

MAL4PREZ


This is just fascinating. Below is more from: http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525

In a document entitled “Our Common Agreement as a Core Group,” members of the Family are instructed to form a “core group,” or a “cell,” which is defined as “a publicly invisible but privately identifiable group of companions.” A document called “Thoughts on a Core Group” explains that “Communists use cells as their basic structure. The mafia operates like this, and the basic unit of the Marine Corps is the four man squad. Hitler, Lenin, and many others understood the power of a small core of people.”

Another document, “Thoughts and Principles of the Family,” sets forth political guidelines, such as

21. We recognize the place and responsibility of national secular leaders in the work of advancing His kingdom.

23. To the world in general we will say that we are “in Christ” rather than “Christian”—“Christian” having become a political term in most of the world and in the United States a meaningless term.

24. We desire to see a leadership led by God—leaders of all levels of society who direct projects as they are led by the spirit.

and self-examination questions:

4. Do I give only verbal assent to the policies of the family or am I a partner in seeking the mind of the Lord?

7. Do I agree with and practice the financial precepts of the family?44. The Family's “financial precepts” apparently amount to the practice of soliciting funds only privately, and often indirectly. This may also refer to what some members call “biblical capitalism,” the belief that God's economics are laissez-faire.

13. Am I willing to work without human recognition?

When the group is ready, “Thoughts on a Core Group” explains, it can set to work:

After being together for a while, in this closer relationship, God will give you more insight into your own geographical area and your sphere of influence—make your opportunities a matter of prayer.
. . . The primary purpose of a core group is not to become an “action group,” but an invisible “believing group.” However, activity normally grows out of agreements reached in faith and in prayer around the person of Jesus Christ.


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Thursday, April 1, 2010 11:35 AM

MAL4PREZ


One more, than I'm going to do something really bad: start a thread and disappear. Got a sunny warm evening to get out and enjoy. :)

From the wiki page - lest one take this to be a small group of loonies in the boonies:

The following politicians are among those who have publicly acknowledged working with the fellowships or are documented as having done so:

* Secretary of State and former Senator Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.)
* Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.)
* Senator Tom Coburn (R-Ok.)
* Senator John Ensign (R-Nev.)
* Senator Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.)
* Senator Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa)
* Senator Jim Inhofe (R-Ok.)
* Senator Bill Nelson (D-Fla.)
* Senator Mark Pryor (D-Ark.)
* Representative Randy Forbes (R-Va.)
* Representative Mike McIntyre (D-N.C.)
* Representative Joe Pitts (R-Pa.)
* Representative Bart Stupak (D-Mich.)
* Representative Zach Wamp (R-Tenn.)
* Representative Frank Wolf (R-Va.)
* former Senator and Vice President Al Gore (D-Tn.)
* former Senator Dan Coats (R-Ind.)
* former Senator Don Nickles (R-Ok.)
* former Senator Everett Dirksen (R-Il.)
* former Senator Jennings Randolph (D-W.V.)
* former Senator John Glenn (D-Ohio)
* former Senator Ted Kennedy (D-Ma.)
* former Representative Steve Largent (R-Ok.)
* former Representative Chip Pickering (R-Miss.)
* former Representative Tom Lantos (D-Ca.)
* Maine Governor and former Representative John Baldacci (D-Me.)
* South Carolina Governor and former Representative Mark Sanford (R-S.C.)
* former Ambassador and Representative Tony P. Hall (R-Ohio)
* former Ambassador and Representative Mark Siljander (R-Mich.)
* former Ambassador and Representative Andrew Young (D-Ga.)
* former Ambassador and Representative Richard "Dick" Swett (D-N.H.)
* former Attorney General Edwin Meese (R)
* former Attorney General and Senator John Ashcroft (R-Mo.)
* former Secretary of State, Secretary of the Treasury and Reagan Chief of Staff James A. Baker, III (R)

Documented historic associates of the fellowships include:[citation needed]

* Senator Harold Hughes (D-Iowa
* Senator Ralph Brewster (R-Maine)
* Senator Frank Carlson (R-Kan.)
* Senator Homer Capehart (R-Ind.))
* Senator Mark O. Hatfield (R-Or.)
* Senator B. Everett Jordan (D-N.C.)
* Senator Absalom Willis Robertson (D-Va.), father of Rev. Pat Robertson
* Senator Alexander Wiley (R-Wis.)
* Senator Herman Talmadge (D-Ga.)
* Senator Strom Thurmond (R-SC.)
* Representative Walter Judd (R-Minn.)
* Representative Orland K. Armstrong (R-Mo)
* Representative Jack Kemp (R-N.Y.)
* Representative William Jennings Bryan Dorn (D-S.C.)


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Friday, April 2, 2010 4:12 AM

MAL4PREZ


Hey - so anyone know anything about this Family deal? Seems like a bit of a big elephant in the room that everyone can see but no one talks about. I'm very curious to see what comes of the CREW case.

Maddow's been poking at these guys for a while:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/14/rachel-maddow-draws-fire_n_23
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Friday, April 2, 2010 2:29 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Alas, Mal4 - this is yet another one of those issues these days, that when you start asking questions about it, folks get pale, sweaty and twitchy, then clam up and have you thrown out on your ear.

I'm gettin a LOT of that about a really bizarre local case which seems to have gotten a lot of oh so very carefully controlled media attention, that asks no questions whatever and quotes only what they're told to.

But go askin QUESTIONS, and weird shit starts comin down - so you might wanna be both careful and discreet, cause you might fall down a rabbit hole checkin this out, and see/learn/know things that can really psychologically harm you.

Or you might piss off or frighten someone willing to do you harm to make the questions go away.

Not tryin to scare you off it, just sayin, it's that kind of issue, this is.

-Frem

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Friday, April 2, 2010 2:41 PM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Alas, Mal4 - this is yet another one of those issues these days, that when you start asking questions about it, folks get pale, sweaty and twitchy, then clam up and have you thrown out on your ear.

I'm gettin a LOT of that about a really bizarre local case which seems to have gotten a lot of oh so very carefully controlled media attention, that asks no questions whatever and quotes only what they're told to.

But go askin QUESTIONS, and weird shit starts comin down - so you might wanna be both careful and discreet, cause you might fall down a rabbit hole checkin this out, and see/learn/know things that can really psychologically harm you.

Or you might piss off or frighten someone willing to do you harm to make the questions go away.

Not tryin to scare you off it, just sayin, it's that kind of issue, this is.

-Frem

I'm seeing that. Means it's important. With the CREW thing going down, maybe light will shine on it.

And though it may not be safe, it seems hella necessary to get it out there. This Family thing is the connection between govt, big business, and the conservative agenda. Here's the root of the problem, the reason why nothing gets done in DC these days in terms of helping the little people. Here's why the Civil Rights movement has slowed to a stop, and Health Care Reform helps insurance companies as much as tries to control it. Here's why Blackwater got all those contracts, and Big Oil runs everything to the detriment of other businesses, politics, the environment, and peace. This is why corporations can now buy elections.

I mean, this is a big fucking deal!

I'm curious about your local case. Understand that you may not be able to talk though.

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Saturday, April 3, 2010 5:52 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Thanx for putting this up. Sad you're not getting any replies. It IS an elephant in the room, as far as I'm concerned, a big, huge, male rogue elephant nobody wants to notice. And they are far, far scarier to me than anything our government wants to do.

I don't know how one fights such a conspiratorial group--certainly their effect on global politics and "ownership" of our Congressmen made me sit up and take notice. Appears others are now, too, given the suits that are being filed and requests for investigation.

For me, this started with a report by Maddow, and it's been a bugaboo for her ever since. I checked it out myself, too, and learned even more that worried me. Her research people checked out "market" rent, and the minimum was $4,000 in that area, and that doesn't include housekeeping. So if they paid $950, that's $36,600 in either "gifts" they're not supposed to receive or something they probably didn't claim on their taxes. Either way, it's wrong.

C Street gets off by claiming "church" status, so doesn't pay the same taxes as non-religious organizations, and that's wrong, too, given they are now claiming it's merely a boardinghouse, not a church.

It IS a cult, in my opinion, and one focused on control of politics. Scary.

I don't know if all the recent developments will lead to some kind of change...I'd bet they just go underground somewhere else to get away from the spotlight, but at least outting the IRS fraud is a step in the right direction:
Quote:

Today, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW)CREW Files Ethics Complaints against C Street House Residents

filed complaints with the Senate Ethics Committee and the House Office of Congressional Ethics against members of Congress who reside or have resided at the C Street House, alleging they paid below market rent in violation of congressional gift rules.

CREW’s complaints name Senators Sam Brownback (R-KS), Tom Coburn (R-OK), Jim DeMint (R-SC), and John Ensign (R-NV), as well as Representatives Mike Doyle (D-PA), Heath Shuler (D-NC), Bart Stupak (D-MI) and Zach Wamp (R-TN) as members of Congress who received improper gifts from C Street Center, Inc., the entity that runs the house and is affiliated with the Fellowship, a shadowy religious organization.

Recent press accounts indicate that members of Congress who live in the house pay $950 per month in return for lodging and housekeeping services. Meals may also be available at an unknown extra cost.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/CREW-Files-Ethics-Complaints-bw-27146782
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Quote:

Ohio Pastors File IRS Complaints Over C Street House

A group of Ohio pastors has filed two complaints with the Internal Revenue Service against the C Street Center, a Washington, DC boarding house for Christian lawmakers.

The 13 pastors, who say they are concerned about the separation of church and state as set forth by the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, allege that the center is improperly using its tax status to offer below-market rents to members of Congress. One complaint argued that C Street has improperly declared itself a "church" for taxation purposes on February 23. Their second complaint, filed this week, alleges that C Street's rent is much lower than market price. The problem, according to the complaint, is that the members are either not paying taxes on that extra income, or that they're receiving unreported gifts.

Lawmakers who live in the house reportedly pay $950 a month in rent for a furnished room and housekeeping services.

The IRS did not respond to a request for comment.

The deed to the C Street house, known to have ties to the Fellowship, a secretive Christian group also known as the Family, was signed by the Family's secretary, and the Family described the house as an affiliated organization on recent tax forms.

At the heart of their complaints, the pastors say, is the concern that the separation of church and state has been breached, with the Fellowship using below-market rents to buy the influence of the lawmakers.

http://www.kplctv.com/global/story.asp?s=12240925

I wish them well. And that more keeps coming out.





"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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