So like Shahzad, are we "creating" terrorists, people disaffected who are ripe for the picking, instead of hardened jihadists who've been there from the ..."/>
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Analysis: The spread of homegrown terrorism
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:33 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote: Nearly a decade ago, a group of Saudis and other men from the Middle East came to the United States to carry out the worst terrorist attack on the U.S. Not a single one had American citizenship. Almost nine years after the September 11 attacks, the threat of another major terror strike is still a concern, but where the threat is coming from has changed. A growing number of American citizens and longtime residents of the United States are becoming radicalized enough by al Qaeda's extremist ideology to kill their fellow Americans, counterterrorism officials say. A growing number are also learning the bomb-making skills necessary to become potentially dangerous terrorists, the officials say. They are training in the mountains of Waziristan in northwestern Pakistan, where al Qaeda still enjoys significant safety. That's where, according to the U.S. government, alleged Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad was trained by the Pakistani Taliban, a group with close ties to al Qaeda. Shahzad's case has strong similarities to that of another American who plotted with terrorist groups in Pakistan to attack the United States. His name is Bryant Neal Vinas, a Catholic convert to Islam from Long Island, New York, who became radicalized, traveled to Pakistan to join up with al Qaeda and helped Osama bin Laden's terrorist organization plot a bomb attack on New York City. When news of Vinas' arrest broke last summer, family members, friends and terrorism experts where dumbfounded by how a studious, middle-class, baseball-loving, all-American kid and onetime U.S. Army recruit could end up plotting to kill in the name of al Qaeda. CNN's investigation into Vinas has resulted in an intimate portrait of a homegrown terrorist, charting the disturbing story of a young American's obsessive quest to join al Qaeda. Vinas' case sheds significant light on why Shahzad and an increasing number of other young Americans have become seduced by al Qaeda's ideology. Both Vinas and Shahzad were well-integrated into American life before becoming radicalized. Both traveled to the heart of al Qaeda's operational command in Pakistan's tribal region along the border with Afghanistan. And both allegedly met with the most senior leaders of the Pakistani Taliban in the weeks before allegedly plotting against the United States. "Bryant Neal Vinas is almost a poster child for the process, the unremarkable nature of the people who might go through this process and, frankly, the potential to link up to al Qaeda and the danger that presents," according to Mitch Silber, the director of intelligence analysis for the New York City Police Department. Several top U.S. counterterrorism officials had the same message: Americans radicalized at home and trained in Pakistan represent a new and disturbing threat to the American homeland. The changing face of terrorism "In the 9/11 world and in the immediate aftermath, the theory was and the reality was that a terrorist attack, if it were to occur again on U.S. soil, would be someone coming from abroad and coming in to the United States," Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said. "That paradigm has changed, and there are now individuals in the United States, some who have grown up here and are American citizens. ... They haven't done anything to violate the law, but yet they have become radicalized to the point of violent extremism and to the point of ... considering coming back to the homeland and conducting an attack of some sort." In the last year, there have been 16 cases of Americans or American residents implicated in Islamist terrorism, a surge in such cases. The Times Square plot is case No. 17.
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:29 AM
DREAMTROVE
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FREMDFIRMA
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:27 PM
CANTTAKESKY
Quote:Originally posted by Niki2: But what they're talking about here is HOMEGROWN, so those people haven't been bombed, just manipulated...?
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PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:"Two words for you: predator drones. You will never see it coming. You think I’m joking? My approval ratings, which have just gone down. It doesn’t bother me. Beside I happen to know that my approval ratings are still very high in the country of my birth. There are few things in life that are harder to find and more important to keep than love -- well, love and a birth certificate. This is a big fucking meal!" -Barry Saddam Hussein Obama Bin Laden Soetoro, Al Qaeda Taliban member http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/president-obama-and-jay-leno-white-house-correspondents-dinner http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-white-house-correspondents-association-dinner Obama's Jewish Polish advisor Zbigniew Brezinski founded AllCIAduh, hanging out with USAma Bin Laden in Pakistan (Village Voice 1981 when CIA agent Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro was illegally in Pakistan) "Regret what? That secret operation (the CIA backing of Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorists) was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?" -Zbigniew Brzezinski, Le Nouvel Observateur, Jan, 1998 "I've learned an immense amount from Dr. Brzezinski." -Hussein Obama, 12 Sept 2007 youtube.com/watch?v=ASlETEx0T-I "I endorsed Obama." -Zbigniew Brzezinski, MSNBC youtube.com/watch?v=NCO7Pr7RJ7s "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough. Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at. Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon.'' -Professor Bill Ayers, FBI/CIA employee and confessed bomber of NYPD HQ, US Capitol, NY Supreme Court, bombed and killed two female bombers in his house, busted CIA LSD mind-control agent Timothy Leary out of prison, confessed to 12 bombings in Operation Northwoods but never prosecuted, author of Barack Hussien Obama Sotoro's authorized biography and grant recipient of Obama's Annenberg Foundation Bill Ayers, Professor of Education, University of Illinois at Chicago
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